Torque converter installation

90LxDroptop · 07-24-2002, 01:04 AM

I have a torque converter and a trans cooler that will be comming in shortly. Will I be able to isntall either of these 2 on my own? Do I need to pull the trans? thanx

Bad89stang · 07-24-2002, 01:49 AM

I would get a good service maual if you haven't attempted these things before and recruit someone who has some experience. The cooler should be fine for you to install. Yes, you have to drop the tranny to install the converter.

90LxDroptop · 07-24-2002, 12:47 PM

MUCHAS GRACIAS!!!

-Suave

silver_pilate · 07-24-2002, 03:16 PM

The converter was probably the first major mod I did to the car. You just gotta start, take your time, and remove what's in the way to get the tranny out.

I've got a very brief run through of the project on my web-site in my sig.

--nathan

Mach 1 · 07-25-2002, 08:38 AM

If your not aware that you have to remove the tranny to change the converter, you definately should get help and not try this on your own.

Do you have a good set of tools?

silver_pilate · 07-25-2002, 08:53 AM

Funny thing is....I had the same question when I started out. I didn't know a great deal about the process involved in swapping the converters. I knew what a converter did, how it worked, etc. I just didn't know if there was some kind of short-cut to avoid pulling the tranny (I was pretty clueless...I'll admit

). Mach 1, I remember you told me exactly the same thing.

90lx, if you've got a basic working understanding of mechanics and can swap an alternator out, you can swap a converter out. It just involves a whole lot more time and a lot more bolts. Take your time and be careful, and you'll be ok. DO get someone to help you. I had two people helping out and it was what was needed. A tranny jack helps a great deal, and you have to be able to get the tranny out from under the car so it must be raised up sufficiently. Anyway, if you feel ambicious and know your way around a tool box, you'll be fine. Give a hollar with any questions.

--nathan

90LxDroptop · 07-25-2002, 09:19 AM

Silver_Pilate. Thanks for your help, it is greatly appreciated. LOL. I also know how the converter works but like you were, I am clueless. My friend Raini. (drtbiker) is going to help me do the swap on sunday, if I get my parts by then. If not, then it's got to wait a few more days. Again, thanks for your help, and good idea showing the converter installation on your site. It's gonna come in handy.

silver_pilate · 07-25-2002, 09:56 AM

Good luck on the project.

Just remember, that install overview on my site is pretty general and I know I left out some details. When you mate the converter to the tranny, make sure it is seated on all sets of splines, otherwise you will burn up the converter. Also, when you get the tranny bolted back up to the block, check the fit of the converter on the flywheel. It should have just a little bit of slack before you install the bolts.

When you have the tranny out and the converter out, you need to replace the front seal as well. It's only a few bucks from Autozone or somewhere and a breeze to install.

You're likely going to spill a bunch of fluid of the back of the tranny due to tipping it. Just be aware and have a catch pan handy.

Also, the driveshaft bolts can be a bear to take off. Spray a good bit of monkey grease on the bolts and let em soak and use an impact or a long breaker bar to get them free. You'll need a 12mm (if I remember correct) 12 sided socket.

--nathan

90LxDroptop · 07-25-2002, 11:20 AM

MUCHAS GRACIAS!!!

-Suave

HiFlow5 0 · 07-25-2002, 06:11 PM

As silver_pilate stated, be careful and make sure the converter is fully seated on the splines! If not seated properly you will damage the front pump, and that's what will burn up the converter. I swapped out my tranny and put in a new converter just before winter. You will most definitely need a second person when putting the tranny back in. That damn thing is heavy and cumbersome when your on your back and have about 24" between the ground and the car. Just take your time and you should be all set.

Mach 1 · 07-25-2002, 06:50 PM

It can be done by yourself. But not recommended for a first timer. It requires a lot of finese and patience to get it lined up good enough while balancing it on a floor jack with one hand and trying to move it around with another, and start a bolt with yet another hand that you dont have.. at the same time jacking the engine up to tilt it back, making sure the tranny lines are out of the way, the TV cable, the torque converter lined up, and the dowel pins....definately has the potential to be a pain in the you know what...

HiFlow5 0 · 07-25-2002, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mach 1
....definately has the potential to be a pain in the you know what...

That doesn't even start to describe it!

07-24-2002, 01:04 AM	#1
90LxDroptop Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arlington Hts. IL Posts: 315	Torque converter installation I have a torque converter and a trans cooler that will be comming in shortly. Will I be able to isntall either of these 2 on my own? Do I need to pull the trans? thanx __________________ 90 LX Convertible 5.0 AOD 3.73 Gears, Underdrive Pulleys, TransGo shift kit, A servo, Subframe Connectors, o/r h-pipe, 2 chamber flows, Pony Wheels

07-24-2002, 01:49 AM	#2
Bad89stang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Ft. Worth, TX Posts: 456	Installations I would get a good service maual if you haven't attempted these things before and recruit someone who has some experience. The cooler should be fine for you to install. Yes, you have to drop the tranny to install the converter. __________________ You're gonna need your seatbelt

07-24-2002, 12:47 PM	#3
90LxDroptop Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arlington Hts. IL Posts: 315	MUCHAS GRACIAS!!! -Suave __________________ 90 LX Convertible 5.0 AOD 3.73 Gears, Underdrive Pulleys, TransGo shift kit, A servo, Subframe Connectors, o/r h-pipe, 2 chamber flows, Pony Wheels

07-24-2002, 03:16 PM	#4
silver_pilate DURKA DURKA!! Join Date: Sep 1997 Location: Lubbock, TX...(TX panhandle) Posts: 1,418	The converter was probably the first major mod I did to the car. You just gotta start, take your time, and remove what's in the way to get the tranny out. I've got a very brief run through of the project on my web-site in my sig. --nathan __________________ '91 GT, Coast 347, 9.5:1 compression, full intake, Wolverine 1087 cam, exhaust, Keith Craft ported Windsor Jr. Irons (235 cfm intake, 195 cfm exhaust), AOD, PI 3500 converter, Lentech valve body, 3.73's (4.10's in the works), and Yokohama ES100's out back. Daily Car: '04 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6MT

07-25-2002, 08:38 AM	#5
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	If your not aware that you have to remove the tranny to change the converter, you definately should get help and not try this on your own. Do you have a good set of tools? __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

07-25-2002, 08:53 AM	#6
silver_pilate DURKA DURKA!! Join Date: Sep 1997 Location: Lubbock, TX...(TX panhandle) Posts: 1,418	Funny thing is....I had the same question when I started out. I didn't know a great deal about the process involved in swapping the converters. I knew what a converter did, how it worked, etc. I just didn't know if there was some kind of short-cut to avoid pulling the tranny (I was pretty clueless...I'll admit ). Mach 1, I remember you told me exactly the same thing. 90lx, if you've got a basic working understanding of mechanics and can swap an alternator out, you can swap a converter out. It just involves a whole lot more time and a lot more bolts. Take your time and be careful, and you'll be ok. DO get someone to help you. I had two people helping out and it was what was needed. A tranny jack helps a great deal, and you have to be able to get the tranny out from under the car so it must be raised up sufficiently. Anyway, if you feel ambicious and know your way around a tool box, you'll be fine. Give a hollar with any questions. --nathan __________________ '91 GT, Coast 347, 9.5:1 compression, full intake, Wolverine 1087 cam, exhaust, Keith Craft ported Windsor Jr. Irons (235 cfm intake, 195 cfm exhaust), AOD, PI 3500 converter, Lentech valve body, 3.73's (4.10's in the works), and Yokohama ES100's out back. Daily Car: '04 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6MT

07-25-2002, 09:19 AM	#7
90LxDroptop Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arlington Hts. IL Posts: 315	Silver_Pilate. Thanks for your help, it is greatly appreciated. LOL. I also know how the converter works but like you were, I am clueless. My friend Raini. (drtbiker) is going to help me do the swap on sunday, if I get my parts by then. If not, then it's got to wait a few more days. Again, thanks for your help, and good idea showing the converter installation on your site. It's gonna come in handy. __________________ 90 LX Convertible 5.0 AOD 3.73 Gears, Underdrive Pulleys, TransGo shift kit, A servo, Subframe Connectors, o/r h-pipe, 2 chamber flows, Pony Wheels

07-25-2002, 09:56 AM	#8
silver_pilate DURKA DURKA!! Join Date: Sep 1997 Location: Lubbock, TX...(TX panhandle) Posts: 1,418	Good luck on the project. Just remember, that install overview on my site is pretty general and I know I left out some details. When you mate the converter to the tranny, make sure it is seated on all sets of splines, otherwise you will burn up the converter. Also, when you get the tranny bolted back up to the block, check the fit of the converter on the flywheel. It should have just a little bit of slack before you install the bolts. When you have the tranny out and the converter out, you need to replace the front seal as well. It's only a few bucks from Autozone or somewhere and a breeze to install. You're likely going to spill a bunch of fluid of the back of the tranny due to tipping it. Just be aware and have a catch pan handy. Also, the driveshaft bolts can be a bear to take off. Spray a good bit of monkey grease on the bolts and let em soak and use an impact or a long breaker bar to get them free. You'll need a 12mm (if I remember correct) 12 sided socket. --nathan __________________ '91 GT, Coast 347, 9.5:1 compression, full intake, Wolverine 1087 cam, exhaust, Keith Craft ported Windsor Jr. Irons (235 cfm intake, 195 cfm exhaust), AOD, PI 3500 converter, Lentech valve body, 3.73's (4.10's in the works), and Yokohama ES100's out back. Daily Car: '04 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6MT

07-25-2002, 11:20 AM	#9
90LxDroptop Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arlington Hts. IL Posts: 315	MUCHAS GRACIAS!!! -Suave __________________ 90 LX Convertible 5.0 AOD 3.73 Gears, Underdrive Pulleys, TransGo shift kit, A servo, Subframe Connectors, o/r h-pipe, 2 chamber flows, Pony Wheels

07-25-2002, 06:11 PM	#10
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	As silver_pilate stated, be careful and make sure the converter is fully seated on the splines! If not seated properly you will damage the front pump, and that's what will burn up the converter. I swapped out my tranny and put in a new converter just before winter. You will most definitely need a second person when putting the tranny back in. That damn thing is heavy and cumbersome when your on your back and have about 24" between the ground and the car. Just take your time and you should be all set. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

07-25-2002, 06:50 PM	#11
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	It can be done by yourself. But not recommended for a first timer. It requires a lot of finese and patience to get it lined up good enough while balancing it on a floor jack with one hand and trying to move it around with another, and start a bolt with yet another hand that you dont have.. at the same time jacking the engine up to tilt it back, making sure the tranny lines are out of the way, the TV cable, the torque converter lined up, and the dowel pins....definately has the potential to be a pain in the you know what... __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

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