kenne bell blowers..how are they??

LX XLR8R · 01-22-2001, 11:08 PM

ive been looking at this blower lately and wondering how they are..how would it be for my apllication..could how much hp can i get out of my 24#ers with a fmu..thanks

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1987 black notch(ex 4 banger)
DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one..

gt93mustang · 01-22-2001, 11:54 PM

I'd be interested to know the answer to this also. I am ready to buy a power adder and am now faced with the hard decision of which to go with. Do I want the low-end grunt of the positive displacement blowers, or would I like a more powerful top-end charge of the centrifugal. I don't know just yet. I don't really make it to the track to often but the loud Vortech's sound so darn good. Anyways, not wanting to steal this post from LX XLR8R, how are the Kenne Bell's and how much do they cost?

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MAC equal length headers, MAC Off-Road H-Pipe, Flowmaster mufflers, 373's, March ram-air kit, underdrive pulleys, 73mm MAF, 75mm TB, Saleen Intake (ported), Edelbrock 6037 heads (ported, polished, 3 angle valve-job 255CFM @.500), 1.6 FMS RR's, Wolverine 1087 Cam, 24lb injectors, MSD 6AL, Subframe connectors, Griggs Fully Adustable Lower Control Arms... and probably some more in there I forgot

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 01-23-2001, 12:59 AM

Kenne Bell Blowers have full boost the moment you start your car, which is better (In my oppinion) than centerfugal blowers, because they have to be in the high RPM's to be getting full boost. they are quiet so you can crush your victoms in a stealth like manner!
Go for it, ive never heard of anything gone wrong with a kenne bell.
Eat some Slomaros, & some vettes too!!

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No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).

Unit 5302 · 01-23-2001, 01:13 AM

Actually, last time I checked the Kenne Bell makes max boost at 1800rpms, not at idle, still if you are racing at 1000rpms, you've got bigger problems that the blower boost.

stangsrule · 01-23-2001, 04:40 AM

I've had one for almost 2 years now and I like it. You have full boost by 2000 rpm and keep it all the way to rev limiter. In my opinion you can't beat a postive displacement blower for street driving but they they aren't serious race blowers. I don't know what they max out at but I do know that a friend of mine with the older/smaller KB blower was making over 500 RWHP before he split his block. So I guess the bottom line is that if you want a great street blower capable of making 500+ RWHP then the KB is an excellent choice. If you want a full race blower capable of making 600-1000 RWHP then look into the centrifugal blowers. Now before anybody gets upset I want to clarfiy that I am not saying that centrifugals won't make a good street blower but that they are best at the track and the postive displacements are best on the street but both will still do quite well in any enviroment but excell in differant applications from each other. Let me know if you have any other questions and I will do my best to answer them. Good luck with whatever you decide to go with.

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92GT all the free stuff and a few bolt-ons, lowered with Ebiach's and Koni's, Kenny Brown subframe connectors, lower G-brace and jacking rails. BBK upper and lower control arms, polyurethane bushings all around and Ken Bell blower, ram-air, 80mm mass air, etc.

LX XLR8R · 01-23-2001, 01:09 PM

ok i was looking for a site and www.kenne-bell.com sucks..is that the oficial site?any ohter places to get more info?

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1987 black notch(ex 4 banger)
DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one..

NO SLO PK · 01-23-2001, 06:33 PM

Save yourself the trouble and don't buy a Kenne Bell. You'll probably regret it as I did.

You see, I owned a Kenne Bell blower for over four years and 70,000 miles. The first head unit made noise and had to be returned. The second through fourth head units had internal oil leaks and had to be replaced.

Because of the Kenne Bell blower, I also had to replace 3 power steering pumps and 2 A/C pulleys. This is because the blower shared the same drive belt as the accessories. Remember, blowers require a lot of power to turn, and that makes a lot of drag(tension) on the belt. That's why I was losing accesories left and right.

That didn't happen with my old Paxton, or my ATI.

Send me a private message if you want more reasons why this blower is not worth it.

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'91 LX
Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.

[This message has been edited by NO SLO PK (edited 01-23-2001).]

gt93mustang · 01-23-2001, 06:33 PM

Now you guys have me really interested... how are they as far as detonation? Do they require an intercooler or anything like that to stay efficient and not detonate? Also, what are the price ranges for the Kenne Bell blowers?

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MAC equal length headers, MAC Off-Road H-Pipe, Flowmaster mufflers, 373's, March ram-air kit, underdrive pulleys, 73mm MAF, 75mm TB, Saleen Intake (ported), Edelbrock 6037 heads (ported, polished, 3 angle valve-job 255CFM @.500), 1.6 FMS RR's, Wolverine 1087 Cam, 24lb injectors, MSD 6AL, Subframe connectors, Griggs Fully Adustable Lower Control Arms... and probably some more in there I forgot

Noongs94GT · 01-23-2001, 11:57 PM

Well, I've been running the 1500 for about 12000 miles with NO problems at all, not even a belt problem. As far a boost and detonation I run 11psi of boost w/o an intercooler and about 3/4 degree retard on my BTM and it fine for 12.6 @ 112mph all day long. If your more of a street racer than this is the ticket with easy install and no maintance at all. You get everything you need in one kit for around $3400 new give or take w/ shiping.

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94GT 5spd, Kenne Bell blowing
11psi, Speedbrain, GT-40
Heads w/ 1.77RR, 2031 cam,
30lb injectors, KB Boostapump,
Vortech T-Rex, Super FMU,

NO SLO PK · 01-24-2001, 12:17 AM

Hey Noong, that's about what my LX was turning with Kenne Bell: 12.40s at 113 on McCrearies. I didn't use any timing retard, and never blew a head gasket.

With 12k miles on your blower, I'd definitely check the blower oil level frequently, say at every fill up. I wish you luck with your supercharger. It's a blast on the street but it caused ongoing problems for me. If you ever want tuning suggestions, well, I spent a lot of time with the KB unit.

Honestly, I like my ATI a lot more. With only 8 lbs. of boost at the intake it's definitely making more power than the KB ever did. I can occasionally break traction in third gear just by mashing the go pedal, which is something that the KB blower would never accomplish.

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'91 LX
Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.

Skyman · 01-24-2001, 02:28 AM

Dont get the Kenne Bell. No I havn't had one, but Ive seen dynos from them. They make HUGE amounts of low end torque but very little top end HP, which is what you want to run fast in the 1/4. Looks at these guys cars, they are turning 112mph traps with heads/cam etc, and a 11psi blower? **** they would be over 120 if it was a Vortech, Or paxton etc.

Ive seen a dyno on a car with gt40's, E-303 etc. With a 10psi Kenne Belle, it made 484TQ and only 340RWHP. Thats not much RWHP for 10psi of boost through that kind of setup after a dyno tune. They are good for heavy Automatic cars that are slugs off the line. Definatly not right for your setup.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS Heads, Edelbrock intake, E-303, 3.73's, 1 5/8 shortys, Offroad-H, 2chamber flows, 36psi FPR, 15degrees timing, 70mm tb, 73mm maf, 24lb inj, Crank pulley, MSD6A, Alum driveshaft.

On its way: Paxton Sn-89 with dyno tuning and long tubes.

Just added: B&M Ripper, Weldin Subframes, & Turn downs!
13.2@106mph

01-24-2001, 04:36 AM

I know many guys who are running 11's with the Kenne Bell blowers with no problems what-so-ever.

If you want,I can get you their email addresses and you could talk to them also about their set-ups..

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Paxton Blown 87GT

LX XLR8R · 01-24-2001, 12:38 PM

i was thinking the s trim with after cooler b4 this..now that i think about it my combo makes power all over but excels upstairs so i think i might want to go centrifical supercharger instead

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1987 black notch(ex 4 banger)
DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one..

01-22-2001, 11:08 PM	#1
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	kenne bell blowers..how are they?? ive been looking at this blower lately and wondering how they are..how would it be for my apllication..could how much hp can i get out of my 24#ers with a fmu..thanks ------------------ 1987 black notch(ex 4 banger) DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one..

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01-22-2001, 11:54 PM	#2
gt93mustang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Kennesaw, Georgia, USA Posts: 252	I'd be interested to know the answer to this also. I am ready to buy a power adder and am now faced with the hard decision of which to go with. Do I want the low-end grunt of the positive displacement blowers, or would I like a more powerful top-end charge of the centrifugal. I don't know just yet. I don't really make it to the track to often but the loud Vortech's sound so darn good. Anyways, not wanting to steal this post from LX XLR8R, how are the Kenne Bell's and how much do they cost? ------------------ MAC equal length headers, MAC Off-Road H-Pipe, Flowmaster mufflers, 373's, March ram-air kit, underdrive pulleys, 73mm MAF, 75mm TB, Saleen Intake (ported), Edelbrock 6037 heads (ported, polished, 3 angle valve-job 255CFM @.500), 1.6 FMS RR's, Wolverine 1087 Cam, 24lb injectors, MSD 6AL, Subframe connectors, Griggs Fully Adustable Lower Control Arms... and probably some more in there I forgot

01-23-2001, 12:59 AM	#3
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	Kenne Bell Blowers have full boost the moment you start your car, which is better (In my oppinion) than centerfugal blowers, because they have to be in the high RPM's to be getting full boost. they are quiet so you can crush your victoms in a stealth like manner! Go for it, ive never heard of anything gone wrong with a kenne bell. Eat some Slomaros, & some vettes too!! ------------------ No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).

01-23-2001, 01:13 AM	#4
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Actually, last time I checked the Kenne Bell makes max boost at 1800rpms, not at idle, still if you are racing at 1000rpms, you've got bigger problems that the blower boost.

01-23-2001, 04:40 AM	#5
stangsrule Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Indiana Posts: 512	I've had one for almost 2 years now and I like it. You have full boost by 2000 rpm and keep it all the way to rev limiter. In my opinion you can't beat a postive displacement blower for street driving but they they aren't serious race blowers. I don't know what they max out at but I do know that a friend of mine with the older/smaller KB blower was making over 500 RWHP before he split his block. So I guess the bottom line is that if you want a great street blower capable of making 500+ RWHP then the KB is an excellent choice. If you want a full race blower capable of making 600-1000 RWHP then look into the centrifugal blowers. Now before anybody gets upset I want to clarfiy that I am not saying that centrifugals won't make a good street blower but that they are best at the track and the postive displacements are best on the street but both will still do quite well in any enviroment but excell in differant applications from each other. Let me know if you have any other questions and I will do my best to answer them. Good luck with whatever you decide to go with. ------------------ 92GT all the free stuff and a few bolt-ons, lowered with Ebiach's and Koni's, Kenny Brown subframe connectors, lower G-brace and jacking rails. BBK upper and lower control arms, polyurethane bushings all around and Ken Bell blower, ram-air, 80mm mass air, etc.

01-23-2001, 01:09 PM	#6
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	ok i was looking for a site and www.kenne-bell.com sucks..is that the oficial site?any ohter places to get more info? ------------------ 1987 black notch(ex 4 banger) DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one..

01-23-2001, 06:33 PM	#7
NO SLO PK Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Arcadia, CA, USA Posts: 731	Save yourself the trouble and don't buy a Kenne Bell. You'll probably regret it as I did. You see, I owned a Kenne Bell blower for over four years and 70,000 miles. The first head unit made noise and had to be returned. The second through fourth head units had internal oil leaks and had to be replaced. Because of the Kenne Bell blower, I also had to replace 3 power steering pumps and 2 A/C pulleys. This is because the blower shared the same drive belt as the accessories. Remember, blowers require a lot of power to turn, and that makes a lot of drag(tension) on the belt. That's why I was losing accesories left and right. That didn't happen with my old Paxton, or my ATI. Send me a private message if you want more reasons why this blower is not worth it. ------------------ '91 LX Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles. [This message has been edited by NO SLO PK (edited 01-23-2001).]

01-23-2001, 11:57 PM	#9
Noongs94GT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Marysville, Wa., USA Posts: 8	Well, I've been running the 1500 for about 12000 miles with NO problems at all, not even a belt problem. As far a boost and detonation I run 11psi of boost w/o an intercooler and about 3/4 degree retard on my BTM and it fine for 12.6 @ 112mph all day long. If your more of a street racer than this is the ticket with easy install and no maintance at all. You get everything you need in one kit for around $3400 new give or take w/ shiping. ------------------ 94GT 5spd, Kenne Bell blowing 11psi, Speedbrain, GT-40 Heads w/ 1.77RR, 2031 cam, 30lb injectors, KB Boostapump, Vortech T-Rex, Super FMU,

01-24-2001, 12:17 AM	#10
NO SLO PK Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Arcadia, CA, USA Posts: 731	Hey Noong, that's about what my LX was turning with Kenne Bell: 12.40s at 113 on McCrearies. I didn't use any timing retard, and never blew a head gasket. With 12k miles on your blower, I'd definitely check the blower oil level frequently, say at every fill up. I wish you luck with your supercharger. It's a blast on the street but it caused ongoing problems for me. If you ever want tuning suggestions, well, I spent a lot of time with the KB unit. Honestly, I like my ATI a lot more. With only 8 lbs. of boost at the intake it's definitely making more power than the KB ever did. I can occasionally break traction in third gear just by mashing the go pedal, which is something that the KB blower would never accomplish. ------------------ '91 LX Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.

01-24-2001, 02:28 AM	#11
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Dont get the Kenne Bell. No I havn't had one, but Ive seen dynos from them. They make HUGE amounts of low end torque but very little top end HP, which is what you want to run fast in the 1/4. Looks at these guys cars, they are turning 112mph traps with heads/cam etc, and a 11psi blower? **** they would be over 120 if it was a Vortech, Or paxton etc. Ive seen a dyno on a car with gt40's, E-303 etc. With a 10psi Kenne Belle, it made 484TQ and only 340RWHP. Thats not much RWHP for 10psi of boost through that kind of setup after a dyno tune. They are good for heavy Automatic cars that are slugs off the line. Definatly not right for your setup. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, Edelbrock intake, E-303, 3.73's, 1 5/8 shortys, Offroad-H, 2chamber flows, 36psi FPR, 15degrees timing, 70mm tb, 73mm maf, 24lb inj, Crank pulley, MSD6A, Alum driveshaft. On its way: Paxton Sn-89 with dyno tuning and long tubes. Just added: B&M Ripper, Weldin Subframes, & Turn downs! 13.2@106mph

01-24-2001, 04:36 AM	#12
Mustanguy Guest Posts: n/a	I know many guys who are running 11's with the Kenne Bell blowers with no problems what-so-ever. If you want,I can get you their email addresses and you could talk to them also about their set-ups.. ------------------ Paxton Blown 87GT

01-24-2001, 12:38 PM	#13
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	i was thinking the s trim with after cooler b4 this..now that i think about it my combo makes power all over but excels upstairs so i think i might want to go centrifical supercharger instead ------------------ 1987 black notch(ex 4 banger) DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one..