Started hearing a funny noice...HELP

Kamaro Killer · 11-23-2002, 05:29 PM

I just bought a 93 GT with a powerdyne s/c on it. I've been having a lot of fun with it, but started hearing a noice last night. It is a metal grinding sound, almost like the sound disk brakes make to warn you that they need to be replaced. I tried to figure out where the noice is coming from, and I think it's coming from near the s/c. I had to cancel today's trip to the track because of it. The noise is made usually when the engine is under a load, although if I lightly step on the brake when the noise is being made, it stops

. If anyone has experienced this, please suggest something. Thanks, Keith

Kamaro Killer · 11-23-2002, 07:19 PM

No one?

drtbiker · 11-23-2002, 07:27 PM

i had a intake gasket leak and sound like that once but i doubt that is your problem

bottlebaby91 · 11-24-2002, 12:34 AM

how loud is the noise? Where exactly is it coming from?

HiFlow5 0 · 11-24-2002, 03:43 AM

How old is the Powerdyne? I remember hearing that older models had a problem with an internal belt slipping.

Kamaro Killer · 11-25-2002, 12:28 PM

I have no idea of how old the s/c is. I bought the car from a dealer, who never really drove it. He also had no idea of how old most of the parts were. I had an idea this weekend as to what it might be. I noticed the noise pretty much only comes on when I'm around 3000 rpm's and when I'm in 2nd, 3rd, or 4th gear. It has made noise without me even being on the gas though, when I was just barely driving down my street. Can this be a sign that the throw-out bearing is going bad? I also will smell a burning smell, like burning rubber, when I stomp on the gas and accelerate (NO, it's not the back tires from burning out), usually at about 60 mph. My friend suggested that could be the clutch burning up. The noise isn't that loud, and it's hard to be sure of where the noise is coming from exactly because it ppretty much only makes it when the car's under a hard load. I think it;s coming from the pass side of the engine bay (if that helps at all

) Any suggestions? Thanks, Keith

USMC302 · 11-25-2002, 01:02 PM

The burning rubber smell could be coming from a slipping belt as Highflo50 mentioned. The throwout bearing would make noise when you engage the clutch, not when you give it gas.

Kamaro Killer · 11-25-2002, 01:16 PM

Can I pull the cover off and tighten it, or have someone experienced do the work? There is also a grinding sound that I occasionally here, any suggestions as to what that might be? I don't know if this makes a difference, but I looked at my serp. belt this weekend and it's all cracked, about 1 crack every centimeter. This might be the burning smell, but that still doesn;t explaing the grinding sound. Thanks, Keith

HiFlow5 0 · 11-25-2002, 02:33 PM

You said it sounds like its coming from the passenger side of the engine bay, correct? Now isn't that the side the supercharger is on? I'm still pretty sure its an internal belt problem with the Powerdyne. Do a search on a some of the mustang message boards about the problem, see what you come up with. Or even give powerdyne a call, see what they say about belt slipping. I would replace the serp belt if its cracked, you don't want one of those snapping while your miles from home!

Kamaro Killer · 11-25-2002, 02:36 PM

I am hoping it's not the S/C, but I'll call Powerdyne and see what they say. I just don't understand where I'm getting that metal grinding noise if it is a loose belt. I'll keep you guys updated, thanks, Keith

Kamaro Killer · 11-25-2002, 03:09 PM

I was told to take the external belt off, then take the inlet off. Once both are off, I am supposed to turn the impeller by hand (from the back) and see if I hear anything. I was told that if there's a metal grinding noise, it's the impeller rubbing. If it's the belt that's slipping, they have to fix it

which sucks! I'm going to take the new serp. belt I have on my 88 and switch it with the serp. belt on my 93, and see if I still smell a burning rubber smell. If that's the culprit, I'll be happy. If not, then I think I'm not going to have any other choice but to take the s/c off and bring it to Powerdyne to have them take a look at it. I'll definately keep you guys updated, later, Keith

Eric4Nitrous · 11-25-2002, 03:38 PM

its' prolly your throwout bearing. even if your belt goes bad on the highway..(the supercharger belt) it's not gonna matter. You can still drive the car normal without the supercharger belt. you just want have the supercharger performance.

Eric4Nitrous · 11-25-2002, 03:40 PM

damn me. sorry keith..don't know why i said throut bearing..my bad man. I was thinking about something else. So ignore the part about the bearing.

11-25-2002, 07:04 PM

yup,if it was ME,I would take the blower apart and check the internal belt,they have been known to break.

They do make replacement belts tho

Kamaro Killer · 11-25-2002, 08:05 PM

They have to do the work. The people at powerdyne said they don't sell any replacement parts, except for the external belt and a smaller pulley. Thanks for the replies, I may just have to take my new car to Powerdyne and have them check it out. Take care, Keith

The Deuce · 11-26-2002, 03:13 AM

You best have one of those heaps running this weekend, because by the spring you ain't gonna have a chance.

Kamaro Killer · 11-26-2002, 05:57 PM

I didn't hear anything. There were not any signs that the impeller was rubbing either. I am stumped now. I pin-pointed the noise before shutting the car off, well somewhat. The noise is coming from the right side, near the s/c and only makes noise around 2500 rpm's and up, and continues to make it whether I am slowing down or not. Even when I was stopped, I revved (sp) the car up to 2500 rpm's while in neutral, it still made the metal grinding noise. Can the impeller be rubbing from the other side(front)? Could it just be that the belt is slipping? The noise got bad today during lunch, so it's now taken apart at home. If I take the front cover off is there anything that will fall out? Thanks, Keith

Kamaro Killer · 11-27-2002, 04:39 PM

I pulled the external belt off the front of the s/c and drove without the s/c, and there wasn't any noise at all. I ran it over 2500 rpm's on several stretches of road and didn't hear a thing. I called Powerdyne (which actually has good, friendly cust. svs.) and explained the situation to them and they are going to have to look at it. For now, I have a stock mustang again, it's a wierd feeling not having the boost

I'll let you guys know how it turns out. Later, Keith

11-27-2002, 06:54 PM

Thanks for the update,

it'll be interesting to see what they find as it does sound like it's inside of the blower,I'm thinking it's prolly the internal belt

11-23-2002, 05:29 PM	#1
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	Started hearing a funny noice...HELP I just bought a 93 GT with a powerdyne s/c on it. I've been having a lot of fun with it, but started hearing a noice last night. It is a metal grinding sound, almost like the sound disk brakes make to warn you that they need to be replaced. I tried to figure out where the noice is coming from, and I think it's coming from near the s/c. I had to cancel today's trip to the track because of it. The noise is made usually when the engine is under a load, although if I lightly step on the brake when the noise is being made, it stops . If anyone has experienced this, please suggest something. Thanks, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

11-23-2002, 07:19 PM	#2
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	ttt No one? __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

11-23-2002, 07:27 PM	#3
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	i had a intake gasket leak and sound like that once but i doubt that is your problem __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

11-24-2002, 03:43 AM	#5
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	How old is the Powerdyne? I remember hearing that older models had a problem with an internal belt slipping. __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

11-25-2002, 12:28 PM	#6
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	I have no idea of how old the s/c is. I bought the car from a dealer, who never really drove it. He also had no idea of how old most of the parts were. I had an idea this weekend as to what it might be. I noticed the noise pretty much only comes on when I'm around 3000 rpm's and when I'm in 2nd, 3rd, or 4th gear. It has made noise without me even being on the gas though, when I was just barely driving down my street. Can this be a sign that the throw-out bearing is going bad? I also will smell a burning smell, like burning rubber, when I stomp on the gas and accelerate (NO, it's not the back tires from burning out), usually at about 60 mph. My friend suggested that could be the clutch burning up. The noise isn't that loud, and it's hard to be sure of where the noise is coming from exactly because it ppretty much only makes it when the car's under a hard load. I think it;s coming from the pass side of the engine bay (if that helps at all ) Any suggestions? Thanks, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

11-24-2002, 12:34 AM	#4
bottlebaby91 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 141	how loud is the noise? Where exactly is it coming from?

11-25-2002, 01:02 PM	#7
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	The burning rubber smell could be coming from a slipping belt as Highflo50 mentioned. The throwout bearing would make noise when you engage the clutch, not when you give it gas. __________________

11-25-2002, 01:16 PM	#8
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	How would I go about tightening the belt? Can I pull the cover off and tighten it, or have someone experienced do the work? There is also a grinding sound that I occasionally here, any suggestions as to what that might be? I don't know if this makes a difference, but I looked at my serp. belt this weekend and it's all cracked, about 1 crack every centimeter. This might be the burning smell, but that still doesn;t explaing the grinding sound. Thanks, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

11-25-2002, 02:33 PM	#9
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	You said it sounds like its coming from the passenger side of the engine bay, correct? Now isn't that the side the supercharger is on? I'm still pretty sure its an internal belt problem with the Powerdyne. Do a search on a some of the mustang message boards about the problem, see what you come up with. Or even give powerdyne a call, see what they say about belt slipping. I would replace the serp belt if its cracked, you don't want one of those snapping while your miles from home! __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

11-25-2002, 02:36 PM	#10
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	Yes, that's where the s/c is I am hoping it's not the S/C, but I'll call Powerdyne and see what they say. I just don't understand where I'm getting that metal grinding noise if it is a loose belt. I'll keep you guys updated, thanks, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

11-25-2002, 03:09 PM	#11
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	I called powerdyne I was told to take the external belt off, then take the inlet off. Once both are off, I am supposed to turn the impeller by hand (from the back) and see if I hear anything. I was told that if there's a metal grinding noise, it's the impeller rubbing. If it's the belt that's slipping, they have to fix it which sucks! I'm going to take the new serp. belt I have on my 88 and switch it with the serp. belt on my 93, and see if I still smell a burning rubber smell. If that's the culprit, I'll be happy. If not, then I think I'm not going to have any other choice but to take the s/c off and bring it to Powerdyne to have them take a look at it. I'll definately keep you guys updated, later, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

11-25-2002, 03:38 PM	#12
Eric4Nitrous Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Va Posts: 1,122	its' prolly your throwout bearing. even if your belt goes bad on the highway..(the supercharger belt) it's not gonna matter. You can still drive the car normal without the supercharger belt. you just want have the supercharger performance. __________________ 68 Camaro Gene Fulton 632ci Two stages of Jug 8.41 164mph Rockingham 1-26-03

11-25-2002, 03:40 PM	#13
Eric4Nitrous Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Va Posts: 1,122	damn me. sorry keith..don't know why i said throut bearing..my bad man. I was thinking about something else. So ignore the part about the bearing. __________________ 68 Camaro Gene Fulton 632ci Two stages of Jug 8.41 164mph Rockingham 1-26-03

11-25-2002, 07:04 PM	#14
Mustanguy Guest Posts: n/a	yup,if it was ME,I would take the blower apart and check the internal belt,they have been known to break. They do make replacement belts tho

11-25-2002, 08:05 PM	#15
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	Yes, they do make internal belt replacements, but... They have to do the work. The people at powerdyne said they don't sell any replacement parts, except for the external belt and a smaller pulley. Thanks for the replies, I may just have to take my new car to Powerdyne and have them check it out. Take care, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

11-26-2002, 03:13 AM	#16
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	You best have one of those heaps running this weekend, because by the spring you ain't gonna have a chance. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

11-26-2002, 05:57 PM	#17
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	Well, I took the impeller and belt off and... I didn't hear anything. There were not any signs that the impeller was rubbing either. I am stumped now. I pin-pointed the noise before shutting the car off, well somewhat. The noise is coming from the right side, near the s/c and only makes noise around 2500 rpm's and up, and continues to make it whether I am slowing down or not. Even when I was stopped, I revved (sp) the car up to 2500 rpm's while in neutral, it still made the metal grinding noise. Can the impeller be rubbing from the other side(front)? Could it just be that the belt is slipping? The noise got bad today during lunch, so it's now taken apart at home. If I take the front cover off is there anything that will fall out? Thanks, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22 Last edited by Kamaro Killer; 11-26-2002 at 06:15 PM..

11-27-2002, 04:39 PM	#18
Kamaro Killer Mustang Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 528	update I pulled the external belt off the front of the s/c and drove without the s/c, and there wasn't any noise at all. I ran it over 2500 rpm's on several stretches of road and didn't hear a thing. I called Powerdyne (which actually has good, friendly cust. svs.) and explained the situation to them and they are going to have to look at it. For now, I have a stock mustang again, it's a wierd feeling not having the boost I'll let you guys know how it turns out. Later, Keith __________________ 1993 GT 5.0-My Stang Rice Hater's Club Member 22

11-27-2002, 06:54 PM	#19
Mustanguy Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks for the update, it'll be interesting to see what they find as it does sound like it's inside of the blower,I'm thinking it's prolly the internal belt

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