Best oil/filter

Nixon1 · 01-19-2003, 09:04 AM

Gotta change the oil very soon... What's everyone's opinion of the best, non-synthetic oil? And how about the filter? Don't even tell me FRAM....no way right off the bat.

Thanks everyone....

PKRWUD · 01-19-2003, 12:02 PM

I prefer the slippery kind.

As long as you change both regularly, it really doesn't matter. That being said, I use Mobil 1 oil and either WIX or Purolator filters.

Take care,
~Chris

nitrousdave · 01-19-2003, 05:40 PM

Here's a link to a study a guy did, I thought it was pretty informative even though he only really cuts them apart and looks at the parts. http://minimopar.net/oilfilterstudy.html

bad85gt · 01-19-2003, 06:27 PM

I run mobile 1 in the mustang, castrol gtx in the truck, and motorcraft fl-1a filters on both

lx mike · 01-19-2003, 07:24 PM

Another vote for Mobil 1 oil and Motorcraft filter.

bigred90gt · 01-19-2003, 07:26 PM

I use Valvoline full synthetic and wix racing filters for the stang, and the same oil with standard wix filter for the f-150.
Caymon

Nixon1 · 01-19-2003, 07:30 PM

I'd use synthetic..but the motor hasn't been rebuilt and it's got 147,000 on it..so..what's the point?

Tim89LXvert · 01-20-2003, 12:59 PM

I think for a non-synthetic a Valvoline or Castrol GTX will do you well.

For a filter, use the Motorcraft

Nixon1 · 01-23-2003, 07:40 PM

Also what kind of oil should I run? It's got a very minor leak so I don't want to go thin.. 10W30 or 10W40?

VeNuM · 01-23-2003, 07:50 PM

I run Mobil 1 non-synthetic in my stock motor with a Motorcraft filter. In the summer I run 10w-40 and in the winter I run 5w-30. My car hardly leaked in the summer, now I can't leave it alone for 30 seconds without oil dripping out of it. I'd definately go with 10w-40 for your application. ~Brian

87BOSS351C · 01-24-2003, 09:37 AM

I use Quaker State in everything. That's what the 302 in my Torino has used since it was new. When I put in new lifters and gaskets at about 78,000 miles the bearings still looked like new and you coudn't even feel any sign of a ring ridge in the cylinders. I was really impressed with the lack of any sludge build up in the engine. In that car it's straight 30w. That is also what I have in the 351C for break in, but that will change to Mobil 1 5w30 synthetic afterwards. On both I run the Motorcraft filter, but the Cleveland will get the HP version after break in. I ran QS 10w30 in an old s-10 blazer I had with 100,000 miles on it. With 3000 miles on an oil change, the oil still looked like you had just poured it out of the bottle.

Honestly though, I really doubt a specific brand of oil is any better than another. All non-syns start from the same place - in the ground.

Why is everyone so Anti-Fram filters? I've run them now and then (when on sale) on non Fords and never had any problems. On my Fords I always run the Motorcraft cause it looks better. Just wondering.

PKRWUD · 01-24-2003, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 87BOSS351C
Why is everyone so Anti-Fram filters? I've run them now and then (when on sale) on non Fords and never had any problems. On my Fords I always run the Motorcraft cause it looks better. Just wondering.

Fram uses less filter media, and lower quality parts.

Take care,
~Chris

Tim89LXvert · 01-24-2003, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 87BOSS351C
Why is everyone so Anti-Fram filters? I've run them now and then (when on sale) on non Fords and never had any problems. On my Fords I always run the Motorcraft cause it looks better. Just wondering.

I don't have the link, I am sure someone does, but a guy basically started cutting apart different oil filters and did a general analysis of the different brands.

The Fram had a thinner case, cheaper insides, and less filtering element than Motorcraft, AC Delco, Purolator and the like.

Since I am willing to pay the $3 qt. difference for synthetic, might as well buy a higher quality filter to go with it.

Nixon1 · 01-24-2003, 02:45 PM

Trust me, hatred of FRAM is a universal thing. I was in a discussion on ThirdGen.org, when I had my Camaro (still do..prepping it for sale)...and everyone hated Fram. Several of them also had personal experiences with FRAMs...one guy's motor blew and he brought it to a shop who tore the engine apart and told him that one reason the engine blew was because the crappy FRAM oil filter clogged and it didn't have the little emergency valve that, in case of clog, it locks open and allows oil to keep flowing through, unfiltered.

Blue GT 5.0 · 01-24-2003, 04:13 PM

Motorcraft 5W-30 and Motorcraft FL-1A filter. Nothing but Motorcraft for me.

01-24-2003, 06:54 PM

So do you guys get your Motorcraft filters from the dealer? Or do autoparts stores like maybe, Napa sell them? What about the WIX filters? Is that something you'd find at a speed shop? Never seen that brand in the regular autoparts.

VeNuM · 01-24-2003, 07:00 PM

Around my house, Motorcraft can be purchased from Autozone or Murray's and WIX can be found at CarQuest. ~Brian

bigred90gt · 01-24-2003, 08:16 PM

I buy everything from Autozone, including the wix racing filters.
Caymon

Nixon1 · 01-24-2003, 08:18 PM

Wonder if Discount Auto Zone sells those too. I'd rather give me business to Discount. Even if they're farther away, they do better business around here. People are more knowledgeable, more willing to help you out, and parts are cheaper too..sometimes by a lot.

srv1 · 01-25-2003, 02:39 AM

Of all the oil changes i have done over the years with all the different brands out there, only a couple have gave me trouble. Fram, the internals literally fell apart, and one called MileGuard which the valve stuck. Honestly i have been running the Motorcraft in the Stang and the rest of the cars i have been using Wix, Deutch, STP, Quaker State, and many others. Never had an engine failure due to a filtration problem. I use the motorcraft in my Stang cause of the looks.

01-19-2003, 09:04 AM	#1
Nixon1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 432	Best oil/filter Gotta change the oil very soon... What's everyone's opinion of the best, non-synthetic oil? And how about the filter? Don't even tell me FRAM....no way right off the bat. Thanks everyone.... __________________ '91 Mustang GT 5.0 AOD Daily Driver Current stats: NEW 302 short block, E-303 cam (@.050, 220/220, .498/.498, 110 degrees), 1.6 roller rockers, Performer RPM heads (aluminum, 1.9/1.6, 60cc chambers), Cobra intake, Granatelli 75mm MAF, Billet AFPR, Equal-Length Shorty Headers, Off-Road X Pipe, Flowmasters, 4.10 POSI 13.73 at 103.8, ~2.2 60'

01-19-2003, 12:02 PM	#2
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	I prefer the slippery kind. As long as you change both regularly, it really doesn't matter. That being said, I use Mobil 1 oil and either WIX or Purolator filters. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

01-19-2003, 05:40 PM	#3
nitrousdave Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: south bend, indiana Posts: 24	Here's a link to a study a guy did, I thought it was pretty informative even though he only really cuts them apart and looks at the parts. http://minimopar.net/oilfilterstudy.html __________________ 85 GT 10 pt cage 11.68 to 1 408 windsor ported dart sr's super victor 9 inch w/4.11's bigshot plate turbo 350 trans etc etc

01-19-2003, 06:27 PM	#4
bad85gt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In front of this thing Posts: 34	I run mobile 1 in the mustang, castrol gtx in the truck, and motorcraft fl-1a filters on both __________________ Purpose Broken Racing Team Breakin stuff since 2001!

01-19-2003, 07:24 PM	#5
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	Another vote for Mobil 1 oil and Motorcraft filter. __________________ Rice Haters Club Member #101

01-19-2003, 07:26 PM	#6
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	I use Valvoline full synthetic and wix racing filters for the stang, and the same oil with standard wix filter for the f-150. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

01-19-2003, 07:30 PM	#7
Nixon1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 432	I'd use synthetic..but the motor hasn't been rebuilt and it's got 147,000 on it..so..what's the point? __________________ '91 Mustang GT 5.0 AOD Daily Driver Current stats: NEW 302 short block, E-303 cam (@.050, 220/220, .498/.498, 110 degrees), 1.6 roller rockers, Performer RPM heads (aluminum, 1.9/1.6, 60cc chambers), Cobra intake, Granatelli 75mm MAF, Billet AFPR, Equal-Length Shorty Headers, Off-Road X Pipe, Flowmasters, 4.10 POSI 13.73 at 103.8, ~2.2 60'

01-20-2003, 12:59 PM	#8
Tim89LXvert Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Toledo, Ohio, USA Posts: 269	I think for a non-synthetic a Valvoline or Castrol GTX will do you well. For a filter, use the Motorcraft __________________ 1989 LX Convertible, blue with white top and leather, 5 speed. Engine: GT40 al. heads, Cobra intake, TFS cam, 1.7RR, etc.... LOLDrivetrain: SPEC II clutch & FMS Billet flywheel, Pro 5.0 shifter w/Cobra knob and aluminum driveshaft through 3.73:1 gears.Chassis: 4 wheel disk w/Cobra front brakes, GT rears and 2001 "Bullitt" wheels Rear: MM adjustable LCAs with Griggs springs, KYB shocks. Front: Koni red struts, FMS "C" springs and full poly bushings. Full length MM sub frame connectors, steeda 2pt. K-brace.Misc.: 130a alt. upgrade, R134a conversion. Photos of my car

01-23-2003, 07:40 PM	#9
Nixon1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 432	Also what kind of oil should I run? It's got a very minor leak so I don't want to go thin.. 10W30 or 10W40? __________________ '91 Mustang GT 5.0 AOD Daily Driver Current stats: NEW 302 short block, E-303 cam (@.050, 220/220, .498/.498, 110 degrees), 1.6 roller rockers, Performer RPM heads (aluminum, 1.9/1.6, 60cc chambers), Cobra intake, Granatelli 75mm MAF, Billet AFPR, Equal-Length Shorty Headers, Off-Road X Pipe, Flowmasters, 4.10 POSI 13.73 at 103.8, ~2.2 60'

01-23-2003, 07:50 PM	#10
VeNuM Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Downers Grove, IL Posts: 464	I run Mobil 1 non-synthetic in my stock motor with a Motorcraft filter. In the summer I run 10w-40 and in the winter I run 5w-30. My car hardly leaked in the summer, now I can't leave it alone for 30 seconds without oil dripping out of it. I'd definately go with 10w-40 for your application. ~Brian __________________ 1989 Black Mustang GT Hatchback, Underdrive Pulles, Electric Fan, Cold Air Intake, Headers, Offroad H-Pipe, Magnaflow catback, Steeda Tri-Ax, Fluidyne Aluminum Radiator, Timing at 14*, 3.73's Coming not so soon: 408w Ricer Hater's Club Member #59

01-24-2003, 09:37 AM	#11
87BOSS351C Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Midland, Michigan Posts: 92	I use Quaker State in everything. That's what the 302 in my Torino has used since it was new. When I put in new lifters and gaskets at about 78,000 miles the bearings still looked like new and you coudn't even feel any sign of a ring ridge in the cylinders. I was really impressed with the lack of any sludge build up in the engine. In that car it's straight 30w. That is also what I have in the 351C for break in, but that will change to Mobil 1 5w30 synthetic afterwards. On both I run the Motorcraft filter, but the Cleveland will get the HP version after break in. I ran QS 10w30 in an old s-10 blazer I had with 100,000 miles on it. With 3000 miles on an oil change, the oil still looked like you had just poured it out of the bottle. Honestly though, I really doubt a specific brand of oil is any better than another. All non-syns start from the same place - in the ground. Why is everyone so Anti-Fram filters? I've run them now and then (when on sale) on non Fords and never had any problems. On my Fords I always run the Motorcraft cause it looks better. Just wondering. __________________ Black '87 LX 5.0 5 spd T-top with 450hp '71 351 Cleveland 4V, C6 tranny, "and some other stuff" Rice Haters Club Member #124

01-24-2003, 02:45 PM	#14
Nixon1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 432	Trust me, hatred of FRAM is a universal thing. I was in a discussion on ThirdGen.org, when I had my Camaro (still do..prepping it for sale)...and everyone hated Fram. Several of them also had personal experiences with FRAMs...one guy's motor blew and he brought it to a shop who tore the engine apart and told him that one reason the engine blew was because the crappy FRAM oil filter clogged and it didn't have the little emergency valve that, in case of clog, it locks open and allows oil to keep flowing through, unfiltered. __________________ '91 Mustang GT 5.0 AOD Daily Driver Current stats: NEW 302 short block, E-303 cam (@.050, 220/220, .498/.498, 110 degrees), 1.6 roller rockers, Performer RPM heads (aluminum, 1.9/1.6, 60cc chambers), Cobra intake, Granatelli 75mm MAF, Billet AFPR, Equal-Length Shorty Headers, Off-Road X Pipe, Flowmasters, 4.10 POSI 13.73 at 103.8, ~2.2 60'

01-24-2003, 04:13 PM	#15
Blue GT 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: McSherrystown PA (near Gettysburg) Posts: 26	Motorcraft 5W-30 and Motorcraft FL-1A filter. Nothing but Motorcraft for me.

01-24-2003, 06:54 PM	#16
Simi Stang Guest Posts: n/a	motorcraft filter? So do you guys get your Motorcraft filters from the dealer? Or do autoparts stores like maybe, Napa sell them? What about the WIX filters? Is that something you'd find at a speed shop? Never seen that brand in the regular autoparts.

01-24-2003, 07:00 PM	#17
VeNuM Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Downers Grove, IL Posts: 464	Around my house, Motorcraft can be purchased from Autozone or Murray's and WIX can be found at CarQuest. ~Brian __________________ 1989 Black Mustang GT Hatchback, Underdrive Pulles, Electric Fan, Cold Air Intake, Headers, Offroad H-Pipe, Magnaflow catback, Steeda Tri-Ax, Fluidyne Aluminum Radiator, Timing at 14*, 3.73's Coming not so soon: 408w Ricer Hater's Club Member #59

01-24-2003, 08:16 PM	#18
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	I buy everything from Autozone, including the wix racing filters. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

01-24-2003, 08:18 PM	#19
Nixon1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 432	Wonder if Discount Auto Zone sells those too. I'd rather give me business to Discount. Even if they're farther away, they do better business around here. People are more knowledgeable, more willing to help you out, and parts are cheaper too..sometimes by a lot. __________________ '91 Mustang GT 5.0 AOD Daily Driver Current stats: NEW 302 short block, E-303 cam (@.050, 220/220, .498/.498, 110 degrees), 1.6 roller rockers, Performer RPM heads (aluminum, 1.9/1.6, 60cc chambers), Cobra intake, Granatelli 75mm MAF, Billet AFPR, Equal-Length Shorty Headers, Off-Road X Pipe, Flowmasters, 4.10 POSI 13.73 at 103.8, ~2.2 60'

01-25-2003, 02:39 AM	#20
srv1 Get down..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Room 103 Posts: 2,095	Of all the oil changes i have done over the years with all the different brands out there, only a couple have gave me trouble. Fram, the internals literally fell apart, and one called MileGuard which the valve stuck. Honestly i have been running the Motorcraft in the Stang and the rest of the cars i have been using Wix, Deutch, STP, Quaker State, and many others. Never had an engine failure due to a filtration problem. I use the motorcraft in my Stang cause of the looks. __________________ Cobra brakes are on! Finally..... ------------------------------------------------