Lower control arms....what to get?

84LX89GT · 09-20-2002, 06:41 PM

I'm having some last minute indicisions about what lower control arms i'm going to get. I know i'm going to get some adjustable uppers so i can play with my pinion angle.

I was going to get some Lower lift bars, but since i'm getting slicks i'm thinking that lift bars may be overkill and i don't much feel like ripping out my lower torque boxes from the hard launches.

My question is will lift bars be fine? What do you guys think i should get? I was going to buy some today, but i realized that i should look a little more into what i'm buying so i don't regret anything later.

Does anyone have a control arm success story. I don't have quad shocks so i really need to eliminate the HORRIBLE wheel hop/control arm bushing deflection i have right now.
Thanks,

09-20-2002, 07:26 PM

I used to run the Southside Machine lift bars and they helped me hook up awesome. But it's really not worth the damage it does to your torque boxes. My car is a weekend warrior so it sees some street driving. Going through driveways tears them up as well as launching with slicks at the track. I had to weld the boxes up with support brackets. I found an old article in MM&FF that showed the torque box fix...plus I added a couple more braces of my own. So I sold the lift bars and bought some used Lakewood Traction bars. They work great. Unfortunately I'm still running the stock upper & lowers, but for now the Lakewood slapper bars are helping out plenty. I'm pulling 1.6 60ft. times with 26x8.5 Hoosier drag slicks. I'm curious what upper/lower arms other people are running though, and how well they hold up to street/strip abuse.

88workcar · 09-20-2002, 08:47 PM

WELD THE TORQUE BOXES, I use welded stock control arms with the small bushings.WELD THE TORQUE BOXES, right now I am changing the rubber bushings out with the poly ones. WELD THE TORQUE BOXES, we are also welding the torque boxes. I tried the SSM bars, for me they unloaded about 25ft out and the 60fts suffered. Any arm out there is better that the stockers. While you are in there and every thing is out the way WELD THE BOXES.

2FastLX · 09-20-2002, 08:57 PM

I agree. The boxes need some serious work. If you have never seen them, they are very flimsy looking. No matter if you plan to use the car for street driving, corner carving, or trips down a drag stip, beefing them up should be a priority. Contact Rick91GT (he's a member here, but hangs mostly on Stangnet I think). He makes his own reinforcements and sold me a set that I'm almost reluctant to ruin the finish on by welding them to the car. They are very nice.

As for the control arms, I have seen 1.4 60ft times on South Side's bars with slicks. I've never owned a set myself, but have ridden in a Stang at the strip with street tires that set me in the seat. They seem to hook very well from what I've seen of them.

82 GT · 09-20-2002, 10:13 PM

You forgot to mention 5 STAR upper/lower control arms.
I've heard they are cheap and also good quality.
Sometimes they have special deals where if you buy the lowers for $150 then they throw in the uppers for just $50

2FastLX · 09-21-2002, 11:20 AM

I like the adjustable ride height options on the Griggs and Maximum pieces myself, but then again I'm more into cornering than drag. Anyone use Griggs or Maximum Motorsports arms on a drag car?

84LX89GT · 09-21-2002, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 82 GT
You forgot to mention 5 STAR upper/lower control arms.
I've heard they are cheap and also good quality.
Sometimes they have special deals where if you buy the lowers for $150 then they throw in the uppers for just $50

Who sells those? i've never even heard of them. It'd be interesting to get some info on them.

I also found out that the guy who owned the car before me, relocated the mounting points for the lower control arms on the axle for more "bite" which probably explains the horrible wheel hop (he got the Mustang Performance 2 book by mathis which has an article about doing that). He decided to weld in the old holes, so i guess i'll be double checking his work and the location of the holes and probably going with the maximum motorsports arms so i can regain ride height (i always wondered why the rear sat 1"+ lower than the front). The pinion angle is probably screwed too, so going to an adjustable upper and adjusting the angle will probably help out alot.

I was going to weld the torque boxes while i had the control arms out, thanks for reminding me though because i'm going to look up what different ways people have re-enforced them.

Are there any other control arms that you can adjust ride height as well? I might as well have info about as many manufacturers as i can get.

Thanks for the input guys, any more opinions/info?

82 GT · 09-22-2002, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 84LX89GT
Who sells those? i've never even heard of them. It'd be interesting to get some info on them.

I believe "5 Star" is the name of the company. I usually see them in Mustang mags.

Mach 1 · 09-22-2002, 11:22 AM

adjustable ride height is the way to go. have some good advantages to offer.

I had CCM (central coast mustang) "ground pounder" adjustable lowers, and they are excellent company with excellent customer service. Even mailed me a second pair for free without wanting the first pair back, because I wanted some with sway bar mounts.

ultraflo · 09-22-2002, 02:32 PM

LOL!!!!!!!!! ...I thought that was a good one. ehehehhehehehee

I had good results with nothing more than HPM Megabite Jr lowers and solid uppers. Mid 1.5x 60ft. times on slicks, along with 11.70's... on my old combo.

Now I run the whole TRZ rear suspension setup and get some mid to low 1.4's ..even though I should be seeing high 1.3's, but I need some new slicks (M/T's)

No personal experience with SSM lift bars, but I've read plenty of horror stories, and some good, but very few good stories...

Oh, WELD THE TORQUE BOXES (upper arm mounts as well) ...along with installing some 'battle boxes' if you plan on launching with slicks anytime soon.

About the '5 Star' ...are you guys talking about Factory 5 upper/lowers? Or is this 5 Star a new company?

82 GT · 09-22-2002, 02:39 PM

Yeah, that's it. Factory 5 is the name I was thinking of.
Sorry for the confusion.

LX XLR8R · 09-22-2002, 03:20 PM

yea it is factory five who has that deal but MAC has about the same deal and i have no complaints about mine...just make sure yuor axels tubes are firm into your pumpkin becaue on my last rear they werent and i still got axel hop until one day my drivers side tube ripped right out the mid section..neeedles to say i build another rear and welded the axel tubes to the pumpkin

BTW my vote would be for a box style(MAC) not tubular..tubes are better for sub frames but not for control arms IMO

bigblockcoupe · 09-22-2002, 03:26 PM

I have ssm uppers and lowers on my cobra and d&d motorsports upper and lowers on my coupe both companys have excellent products the ssm are supposed to play hell on the torque boxes but if you plan on slpping some slicks on the car you definately need to weld the torque boxes and add subframe connectors if you don't have them. i paid like $205 to my door for the d&d upper and lowers off of e-bay from a dealer.

Nutty 5.0 · 09-22-2002, 04:59 PM

I have the Factory 5's on for almost 3 years. They're fine. My friend has the Macs. They're really nice too.

Go to www.jdsperformance.com

He has an upper/lower set for $180. My other friend just got them and they're really nice. He also has adjustable uppers for $135 and adjustable ride height lowers for a really good price.

Dave

84LX89GT · 09-23-2002, 05:10 PM

Nutty 5.0, what do you know about JDsPerformance? Those prices are almost too good to be true. I emailed them about their adjustable uppers and weight jacker lowers and i'm seriously considering buying them. The price for the weight jacker lowers is 1/2 that of the maximum motorsports wieght jacker lowers, but i'd like to be able to drive it on the street without the bushing binding or any surprises.

Sorry if i sound skeptical, but those prices are just awesome!

Mach 1 · 09-23-2002, 06:04 PM

I paid $340 for my weight jacker lowers from CCM, and they look very similar to the ones JDS performance is selling for $195.00

I would say that is a good deal.

I did have bushing bind after awhile, but mine didnt have the grease fittings, which might be enough to eliminate that problem.

Nutty 5.0 · 09-23-2002, 06:47 PM

I agree, the prices are good! Tell him Dave from Pa sent you. He took care of me.

Anyway, I bought the adj. uppers, but traded with my friend to get my old ones back and he gave me the money I paid=$135. They are too noisy, I mean the Heim joint has just enough play that there is clunking over bumps and on/off the gas. I have a loud car, but the play in the thing drove me nuts. If you can find some from him or elsewhere that are adjustable with the poly ends instead of the Heim joint, it should be fine. Just an FYI.

But they were very nice and Dave from Jd's is very upfront and honest. I highly recommend him/them.

The adjustable lowers for spring height should be fine though.

=)

Dave

84LX89GT · 09-24-2002, 01:11 AM

Thanks Dave,
on a side note, i did see your car and was drooling over it when i first got the issue of Muscle Mustangs.....Very clean and beautiful car! I read your sig then got the connection between your avatar and the magazine.

Anyways, i got an email from Dave Lohrey the guy you're talking about and said that those arms are made by granatelli motorsports for them. They are identical when i looked at the pictures, so that puts me at ease because i know from word of mouth that granatelli makes quality stuff. The funny thing is that Granatelli slaps their name on those arms and sells them for $269.95 for the weight jacker lowers (this is from their home page). The uppers they sell for 199.95!
Isn't that unbelievable! That's an AWESOME deal through JDsPerformance. I'm sold on them now.

I also found out that as you said that they make noise, but i'm pretty sure i'm willing to live with that as i already live with no sound deadening and fairly loud exhaust. Plus it's my fun car anyways not my daily driver anymore.

Thanks again to everyone who replied to this post!

Nutty 5.0 · 09-24-2002, 05:11 PM

Thanks for the compliments, the article is a little off, but its still cool.

I am glad you like Jd's. I can't say enough good about them. Too many places get a bad rap, but the good ones don't get enough. I am looking at those weight jackers myself...

Good luck!
Dave

thdrcat · 09-25-2002, 02:23 AM

when you say "WELD THE TORQUE BOXES" what would you be refering to?

09-20-2002, 06:41 PM	#1
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	Lower control arms....what to get? I'm having some last minute indicisions about what lower control arms i'm going to get. I know i'm going to get some adjustable uppers so i can play with my pinion angle. I was going to get some Lower lift bars, but since i'm getting slicks i'm thinking that lift bars may be overkill and i don't much feel like ripping out my lower torque boxes from the hard launches. My question is will lift bars be fine? What do you guys think i should get? I was going to buy some today, but i realized that i should look a little more into what i'm buying so i don't regret anything later. Does anyone have a control arm success story. I don't have quad shocks so i really need to eliminate the HORRIBLE wheel hop/control arm bushing deflection i have right now. Thanks, __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

09-20-2002, 07:26 PM	#2
Simi Stang Guest Posts: n/a	Lower control arms I used to run the Southside Machine lift bars and they helped me hook up awesome. But it's really not worth the damage it does to your torque boxes. My car is a weekend warrior so it sees some street driving. Going through driveways tears them up as well as launching with slicks at the track. I had to weld the boxes up with support brackets. I found an old article in MM&FF that showed the torque box fix...plus I added a couple more braces of my own. So I sold the lift bars and bought some used Lakewood Traction bars. They work great. Unfortunately I'm still running the stock upper & lowers, but for now the Lakewood slapper bars are helping out plenty. I'm pulling 1.6 60ft. times with 26x8.5 Hoosier drag slicks. I'm curious what upper/lower arms other people are running though, and how well they hold up to street/strip abuse.

09-20-2002, 08:47 PM	#3
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	WELD THE TORQUE BOXES, I use welded stock control arms with the small bushings.WELD THE TORQUE BOXES, right now I am changing the rubber bushings out with the poly ones. WELD THE TORQUE BOXES, we are also welding the torque boxes. I tried the SSM bars, for me they unloaded about 25ft out and the 60fts suffered. Any arm out there is better that the stockers. While you are in there and every thing is out the way WELD THE BOXES. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

09-20-2002, 08:57 PM	#4
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	I agree. The boxes need some serious work. If you have never seen them, they are very flimsy looking. No matter if you plan to use the car for street driving, corner carving, or trips down a drag stip, beefing them up should be a priority. Contact Rick91GT (he's a member here, but hangs mostly on Stangnet I think). He makes his own reinforcements and sold me a set that I'm almost reluctant to ruin the finish on by welding them to the car. They are very nice. As for the control arms, I have seen 1.4 60ft times on South Side's bars with slicks. I've never owned a set myself, but have ridden in a Stang at the strip with street tires that set me in the seat. They seem to hook very well from what I've seen of them. __________________ Project: 1988 Coupe - EFI 5.8L Twin Turbo with Victor intake, Canfield heads, F303 cam, March aluminum underdrive pulleys, TKO (or T56 if funds permit), PBR twin piston calipers and 13" rotors up front, 94 Cobra rear calipers and 12" rotors on the rear, 3.73's, Griggs K-member, tubular front control arms, torque arm and panhard bar, polished 99 Cobra wheels. "The GR-40 kit installation is now complete, and the humble Fox-chassis car will now out-corner and out-stop a ZR-1 or a Viper, and support massive horsepower additions with perfect balance." Griggs Racing ICQ# 42269241

09-20-2002, 10:13 PM	#5
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	You forgot to mention 5 STAR upper/lower control arms. I've heard they are cheap and also good quality. Sometimes they have special deals where if you buy the lowers for $150 then they throw in the uppers for just $50 __________________ '82 GT 351W (.060)Comp Cams 274* Extreme Energy cam, ported & polished heads w/ 1.94/1.60 valves 10.3:1 flat top pistons,stealth intake, Mallory dizzy,Holley 750dp carb, BBK shorties,Flowmaster exhaust,C-4 with 3700 stall converter, B&M pro shifter,8.8 rear, 4:10's, subframes, electric fan, powermaster alternator, 4 core radiator.

09-21-2002, 11:20 AM	#6
2FastLX The Photoshop Guru Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Mecca, Indiana Posts: 1,419	I like the adjustable ride height options on the Griggs and Maximum pieces myself, but then again I'm more into cornering than drag. Anyone use Griggs or Maximum Motorsports arms on a drag car? __________________ Project: 1988 Coupe - EFI 5.8L Twin Turbo with Victor intake, Canfield heads, F303 cam, March aluminum underdrive pulleys, TKO (or T56 if funds permit), PBR twin piston calipers and 13" rotors up front, 94 Cobra rear calipers and 12" rotors on the rear, 3.73's, Griggs K-member, tubular front control arms, torque arm and panhard bar, polished 99 Cobra wheels. "The GR-40 kit installation is now complete, and the humble Fox-chassis car will now out-corner and out-stop a ZR-1 or a Viper, and support massive horsepower additions with perfect balance." Griggs Racing ICQ# 42269241

09-22-2002, 11:22 AM	#9
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	adjustable ride height is the way to go. have some good advantages to offer. I had CCM (central coast mustang) "ground pounder" adjustable lowers, and they are excellent company with excellent customer service. Even mailed me a second pair for free without wanting the first pair back, because I wanted some with sway bar mounts. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

09-22-2002, 02:32 PM	#10
ultraflo NX dealer-man Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Peoria, Illinois Posts: 977	nothing... wheel hop is awesome!!! LOL!!!!!!!!! ...I thought that was a good one. ehehehhehehehee I had good results with nothing more than HPM Megabite Jr lowers and solid uppers. Mid 1.5x 60ft. times on slicks, along with 11.70's... on my old combo. Now I run the whole TRZ rear suspension setup and get some mid to low 1.4's ..even though I should be seeing high 1.3's, but I need some new slicks (M/T's) No personal experience with SSM lift bars, but I've read plenty of horror stories, and some good, but very few good stories... Oh, WELD THE TORQUE BOXES (upper arm mounts as well) ...along with installing some 'battle boxes' if you plan on launching with slicks anytime soon. About the '5 Star' ...are you guys talking about Factory 5 upper/lowers? Or is this 5 Star a new company? __________________ RLS Racing! 93 LX 9.20 @ 147mph 03 Mach 1 12.39 @ 116mph

09-22-2002, 02:39 PM	#11
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	Yeah, that's it. Factory 5 is the name I was thinking of. Sorry for the confusion. __________________ '82 GT 351W (.060)Comp Cams 274* Extreme Energy cam, ported & polished heads w/ 1.94/1.60 valves 10.3:1 flat top pistons,stealth intake, Mallory dizzy,Holley 750dp carb, BBK shorties,Flowmaster exhaust,C-4 with 3700 stall converter, B&M pro shifter,8.8 rear, 4:10's, subframes, electric fan, powermaster alternator, 4 core radiator.

09-22-2002, 03:20 PM	#12
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	yea it is factory five who has that deal but MAC has about the same deal and i have no complaints about mine...just make sure yuor axels tubes are firm into your pumpkin becaue on my last rear they werent and i still got axel hop until one day my drivers side tube ripped right out the mid section..neeedles to say i build another rear and welded the axel tubes to the pumpkin BTW my vote would be for a box style(MAC) not tubular..tubes are better for sub frames but not for control arms IMO __________________ 95 undecided cubes, AFR 185s,undecided cam, undecided intake, and a 150 hit 89 "turbonotch" 2.3T You might want to hold on..i saw this on a cartoon once

09-22-2002, 03:26 PM	#13
bigblockcoupe Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: broken arrow Posts: 212	I have ssm uppers and lowers on my cobra and d&d motorsports upper and lowers on my coupe both companys have excellent products the ssm are supposed to play hell on the torque boxes but if you plan on slpping some slicks on the car you definately need to weld the torque boxes and add subframe connectors if you don't have them. i paid like $205 to my door for the d&d upper and lowers off of e-bay from a dealer. __________________ Rice Haters Club member #68 '93 Cobra 10.20@135 '89 Gt Coupe 12.20@115

09-22-2002, 04:59 PM	#14
Nutty 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Collegeville, Pa, USA Posts: 75	I have the Factory 5's on for almost 3 years. They're fine. My friend has the Macs. They're really nice too. Go to www.jdsperformance.com He has an upper/lower set for $180. My other friend just got them and they're really nice. He also has adjustable uppers for $135 and adjustable ride height lowers for a really good price. Dave __________________ 93 GT Red/Grey B50 8.5:1 block, S trim, 2.95 pulley, 6037 heads, Crane Interceptor 2, Comp XE276HR cam, BBK longtubes, Mac catback, Holley Systemax II intake, Kirban fuel regulator, Accufab 70mm t.b., 80mm Pro-M meter, 36lb. injectors, 1.7 roller rockers, FMS C springs, Factory Five upper and lower control arms, Real Ford Cobra R wheels, 3.73 gears, M2300K cobra 4 wheel disk brakes. 505rwhp/472rwtq with home tune! 2/03 5.0 Mustangs and Super Fords magazine feature car page #166 8/02 MM/FF Feature Car page #102

09-23-2002, 05:10 PM	#15
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	Nutty 5.0, what do you know about JDsPerformance? Those prices are almost too good to be true. I emailed them about their adjustable uppers and weight jacker lowers and i'm seriously considering buying them. The price for the weight jacker lowers is 1/2 that of the maximum motorsports wieght jacker lowers, but i'd like to be able to drive it on the street without the bushing binding or any surprises. Sorry if i sound skeptical, but those prices are just awesome! __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

09-23-2002, 06:04 PM	#16
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	I paid $340 for my weight jacker lowers from CCM, and they look very similar to the ones JDS performance is selling for $195.00 I would say that is a good deal. I did have bushing bind after awhile, but mine didnt have the grease fittings, which might be enough to eliminate that problem. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

09-23-2002, 06:47 PM	#17
Nutty 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Collegeville, Pa, USA Posts: 75	I agree, the prices are good! Tell him Dave from Pa sent you. He took care of me. Anyway, I bought the adj. uppers, but traded with my friend to get my old ones back and he gave me the money I paid=$135. They are too noisy, I mean the Heim joint has just enough play that there is clunking over bumps and on/off the gas. I have a loud car, but the play in the thing drove me nuts. If you can find some from him or elsewhere that are adjustable with the poly ends instead of the Heim joint, it should be fine. Just an FYI. But they were very nice and Dave from Jd's is very upfront and honest. I highly recommend him/them. The adjustable lowers for spring height should be fine though. =) Dave __________________ 93 GT Red/Grey B50 8.5:1 block, S trim, 2.95 pulley, 6037 heads, Crane Interceptor 2, Comp XE276HR cam, BBK longtubes, Mac catback, Holley Systemax II intake, Kirban fuel regulator, Accufab 70mm t.b., 80mm Pro-M meter, 36lb. injectors, 1.7 roller rockers, FMS C springs, Factory Five upper and lower control arms, Real Ford Cobra R wheels, 3.73 gears, M2300K cobra 4 wheel disk brakes. 505rwhp/472rwtq with home tune! 2/03 5.0 Mustangs and Super Fords magazine feature car page #166 8/02 MM/FF Feature Car page #102

09-24-2002, 01:11 AM	#18
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	Thanks Dave, on a side note, i did see your car and was drooling over it when i first got the issue of Muscle Mustangs.....Very clean and beautiful car! I read your sig then got the connection between your avatar and the magazine. Anyways, i got an email from Dave Lohrey the guy you're talking about and said that those arms are made by granatelli motorsports for them. They are identical when i looked at the pictures, so that puts me at ease because i know from word of mouth that granatelli makes quality stuff. The funny thing is that Granatelli slaps their name on those arms and sells them for $269.95 for the weight jacker lowers (this is from their home page). The uppers they sell for 199.95! Isn't that unbelievable! That's an AWESOME deal through JDsPerformance. I'm sold on them now. I also found out that as you said that they make noise, but i'm pretty sure i'm willing to live with that as i already live with no sound deadening and fairly loud exhaust. Plus it's my fun car anyways not my daily driver anymore. Thanks again to everyone who replied to this post! __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

09-24-2002, 05:11 PM	#19
Nutty 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Collegeville, Pa, USA Posts: 75	Thanks for the compliments, the article is a little off, but its still cool. I am glad you like Jd's. I can't say enough good about them. Too many places get a bad rap, but the good ones don't get enough. I am looking at those weight jackers myself... Good luck! Dave __________________ 93 GT Red/Grey B50 8.5:1 block, S trim, 2.95 pulley, 6037 heads, Crane Interceptor 2, Comp XE276HR cam, BBK longtubes, Mac catback, Holley Systemax II intake, Kirban fuel regulator, Accufab 70mm t.b., 80mm Pro-M meter, 36lb. injectors, 1.7 roller rockers, FMS C springs, Factory Five upper and lower control arms, Real Ford Cobra R wheels, 3.73 gears, M2300K cobra 4 wheel disk brakes. 505rwhp/472rwtq with home tune! 2/03 5.0 Mustangs and Super Fords magazine feature car page #166 8/02 MM/FF Feature Car page #102

09-25-2002, 02:23 AM	#20
thdrcat Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 100	when you say "WELD THE TORQUE BOXES" what would you be refering to?

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