low 13's

mustangman7777 · 02-20-2001, 03:16 PM

how can i get my car into low 13's, i have a bunch of suspension stuff beign installed monday. i have the exhaust done excluding headers, and i have gears but nothing much else. i was looking for something that would run about $500-600 that would get into that range. i am not that great of a driver but i am improving, and i hope that with these suspension mods will bring me down some, but i feel like a need a good power mod or two to get some power behind my stang. What can i do?

dinomite · 02-20-2001, 03:37 PM

I would say grab some headers to complete your exhaust, I couldn't say what else though.

Smokedawg · 02-20-2001, 03:42 PM

Lets see.
Get some Headers for about 200
Underdrive pulleys 80
Electric fan 120
Mass Air ???

Those mods are usually pretty good small power adders. Headers are suppost to be from 5 to 15hp. Underdrive pulleys about 15. Electric Fan will free up to 17HP. Not for sure on the mass air.
Good Luck

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Cobra Computer, Cobra Transmission, GT40 Ported and Polished Upper and Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, March Underdrive Pulleys, Electric Fan, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, NGK Plugs, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 77mm Mass Air Unit, FlowMaster Exhaust w/offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, High Tolerant Painted Calipers and Drums.

MY91GT · 02-20-2001, 05:09 PM

Is it an AOD or a T-5? If its an AOD, get a stall, that would probally be your best bet since you already have gears. If it's an T-5 (which I am assuming b/c you are doing suspension work) then pullys arent a bad idea, or just try to tune the car by bumping the timing and checking your tps voltage. I think that if you do full exaust, suspension, and gears and hook on slicks, you should be well into the 13's. Just my opinion.

[This message has been edited by MY91GT (edited 02-20-2001).]

mustangman7777 · 02-20-2001, 05:26 PM

it is a 94 cobra, and yes t-5, what kind of headers should i go for?

MY91GT · 02-20-2001, 05:27 PM

Aw man, you should be almost there with a cobra!!! You already have the heads and intake!!! Just tune the car in and drive it like you stole it!!!

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TW Heads, Edlebrock RPM, 75mm TB, 75mm MM, Anderson N-2 cam, stock block, underdrives, paxton regulator, bbk 155 intank, 30lbers, motorsport alum rad msd ignition and coil, 3.73 gear, Tremec 3550, Motorsport HD clutch, K&N, hooker shorties, pacesetter h-pipe, and dynomax cat back, mac upper and lower control arms, no front sway bar. I think that's it. GO ILLINI!!!
Waiting for good weather for new times.

1989GT · 02-21-2001, 12:12 AM

What kind of suspension are you getting installed? At any rate get a pair of slicks or drag radials. I can't remember what all you have done to your car...but I think your ET is in the driving. What's you best ET? MPH? 60'? With slicks and some good driving you should be there. I could never hook for sh!t on street tires...so I bought some BFG drag radials. Some of the best money I ever spent. Nothing like puttin' that power to the ground. Good Luck!

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89GT,T-5Z, D.S.S. 306 shortblock w\main support, B-303 cam, Cobra intake, GT40P heads, 1.72rr, MAC "P" headers, MAC off-road H-Pipe, MAC true-fit w\tips, 373's...and the list goes on!
Throttle Junkie Powered by Ford!
12.824 @ 107.05 MPH
PVT Blankenship leaving for BCT 14MAR01
MOS 67 Romeo

chris91LX · 02-21-2001, 02:51 AM

Good tires, slicks or drag radials, ought to get you there with good driving. There's always nitrous if your not too picky about how you get there.

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91 LX 5.0
Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit and more to come!

mustangman7777 · 02-21-2001, 02:35 PM

i am having, subframes, control arms, and cold air hooked up monday. I live a good 60 miles or so from the track, probably more, how would slicks or drag rads work having to take that kind of a trip. my best 1/4 time so far is 14.2 at 96.8. i know my driving isnt good, but that was right after i got the new shifter and i was still geting used to it. i am not sure what my best 60' time is, but they are usually about 2.3-2.4 or so. i am not into nitrous. but i was thinking of maybe saving for a supercharger.

Killercanary · 02-21-2001, 11:27 PM

1. Get a set of Nitto drag radials
2. Underdrive pulleys
3. Homemade air inlet tube

With these you will be at or better than 13.8's at 99+mph. In my 95GT convertible, I was running 15.2's at 90mph stock. 3.73's, HD clutch, off road X pipe, 2 chamber flowmasters, and advanced timing took me to a 14.9 at 91.5mph. Underdrive pulleys took me to 14.5-14.6 at 94.8mph. Edelbrock intake, 65mm T-body, alum. DS, and shorty headers took me to 14.3's at 96.5mph with 2.09-2.1 60's on street tires. Now with the Nitto's and homemade inlet tube I run consistent 13.8's at 98mph+, my 60's are now 1.91-1.92. The homemade inlet tube resulted in 1mph and 1 tenth in both mine and my cousin's 94GT, since you are getting the cold air put on that may work the same. Bump your timing up a little too, try 12 and work up from there, I run 13*. Remove your spare, jack, etc. And make sure you get to the track really early, like an hour before it opens so your car will be cold. The 94-95 computers, especially the cobra comp. hate warm engine temps- I see as much as 2 tenths variance in hot lapping my car! Good luck, any more question feel free to email me.

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95 GT convt' 5 speed, 3.73's,FMS HD clutch, Pro 5.0 shifter, ASP alum. underdrive pulleys, Bassani offroad X pipe, 2 chmbr flowmasters, K&N w/o silencer, edelbrock performer intake, FRPP 65mm T-body, FRPP shorty headers, FRPP aluminum driveshaft.Hooker 4pt chrome car bar, Xenon/Wings West ground effects, custom interior
Best ET: 13.83
Best MPH: 98.55mph with Best 60': 1.91 on Nitto DR's
Homepage: <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/killercanary" TARGET=_blank>http://www.angelfire

Thad · 02-23-2001, 08:07 PM

Practice1Practice!Practice! That seems to be all you need at this point, along with some street/strip tires to help you out. And listen to my91gt!

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90 LX 5.0 Not timed in 1/4 mile yet. 135mph max speed, so far.

fastang · 02-23-2001, 08:40 PM

Killercanary, Is your car a stick or an auto? Mustangman, Change your cpu to a GT's, get a more agressive cam like an E,B,or F303 and defintely get the pulleys/drag radials. Then you will probaly see consistant mid-low 13's

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

mustangman7777 · 02-23-2001, 10:46 PM

will a regular 94gt computer work right?

Killercanary · 02-24-2001, 08:16 PM

My car is a 5 speed. An extremely heavy 5 speed!
Fastang- I noticed you have the B303, I'm looking to get a cam to go with the AFR heads i just got, but am a little worried about idle as so many people with the 94-95's have problems after a cam swap. Did you have any problems?

Mustangman- a 94GT would work, but a 89-93 would be better, but you'd need a new harness and MAF I think.

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95 GT convt' 5 speed, 3.73's,FMS HD clutch, Pro 5.0 shifter, ASP alum. underdrive pulleys, Bassani offroad X pipe, 2 chmbr flowmasters, K&N w/o silencer, edelbrock performer intake, FRPP 65mm T-body, FRPP shorty headers, FRPP aluminum driveshaft.Hooker 4pt chrome car bar, Xenon/Wings West ground effects, custom interior
Best ET: 13.83
Best MPH: 98.55mph with Best 60': 1.91 on Nitto DR's
Homepage: <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/killercanary" TARGET=_blank>http://www.angelfire

yello95gt · 02-24-2001, 11:39 PM

you do not need to change the computer in your Cobra. I have had 2 cobras and some friends also have cobras.I personally would not spend the money on mods before you learn how to drive the car properly. I ran a 13.9 in my 93 Cobra with only exhaust and pullies on street tires. so, do the free stuff first and learn to drive like you hate your car and you will be there.Hope this helps

fastang · 02-25-2001, 03:09 AM

Yello95GT, The 93 Cobra is substantialy quicker than the 94-95 because its lighter and it has a better CPU. The 94-95 cobras have a HORRIBLE cpu that cuts out the timing in between shifts. Thats why they typicaly run 14.4-14.2 instead of the 13.90's that the 93 runs.
Mustangman777, a 94 cpu should work fine and you can probalby find one cheap in a junkyard since 5.0's are always getting raced and wrecked.
KillerCanary, I was asking why your car was a stick or an auto because my manual hardtop hit a 14.67 at 96 mph stock. All I did was replace the worn clutch when I bought the car and took it to the track the next week, stock air filter and all. I havent had any problems with my idle after the cam install at all. It sounds great and makes power right where I want it at 4-6 grand which is right where I end up at with my 355's. I would defintitely reccomend this cam. It worked fine with my stock heads even after I milled the $hit out of them.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

Killercanary · 02-25-2001, 03:30 AM

Fastang- I admit I really didn't know how to drive the car when i first hit the strip, but it still took me a hole slew of mods to get to a 14.5 at 95mph. JFYI- my cousin's 94GT coupe ran a 14.8 at 93mph stock. Our Track elevation is 1250 feet above sea level. His 94 coupe weighed 3350 without him, my 95GT convert weighed 3803 with me, and I only weigh 170lbs! I might have been able to get into the 15.0 range, but I doubt I could have gone quicker than that stock.

BTW- did you have problems with your accessories bolting up to your heads after they were milled? The reason I ask is because i just ordered a set of AFR's and I was thinking of milling them from 58cc to 54cc, but I was told the power steering bracket and stuff wouldn't line up right since the holes would be off.

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95 GT convt' 5 speed, 3.73's,FMS HD clutch, Pro 5.0 shifter, ASP alum. underdrive pulleys, Bassani offroad X pipe, 2 chmbr flowmasters, K&N w/o silencer, edelbrock performer intake, FRPP 65mm T-body, FRPP shorty headers, FRPP aluminum driveshaft.Hooker 4pt chrome car bar, Xenon/Wings West ground effects, custom interior
Best ET: 13.83
Best MPH: 98.55mph with Best 60': 1.91 on Nitto DR's
Homepage: <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/killercanary" TARGET=_blank>http://www.angelfire

02-20-2001, 03:16 PM	#1
mustangman7777 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Posts: 541	low 13's how can i get my car into low 13's, i have a bunch of suspension stuff beign installed monday. i have the exhaust done excluding headers, and i have gears but nothing much else. i was looking for something that would run about $500-600 that would get into that range. i am not that great of a driver but i am improving, and i hope that with these suspension mods will bring me down some, but i feel like a need a good power mod or two to get some power behind my stang. What can i do?

02-20-2001, 03:37 PM	#2
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	I would say grab some headers to complete your exhaust, I couldn't say what else though.

02-20-2001, 03:42 PM	#3
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	Lets see. Get some Headers for about 200 Underdrive pulleys 80 Electric fan 120 Mass Air ??? Those mods are usually pretty good small power adders. Headers are suppost to be from 5 to 15hp. Underdrive pulleys about 15. Electric Fan will free up to 17HP. Not for sure on the mass air. Good Luck ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Cobra Computer, Cobra Transmission, GT40 Ported and Polished Upper and Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, March Underdrive Pulleys, Electric Fan, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, NGK Plugs, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 77mm Mass Air Unit, FlowMaster Exhaust w/offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, High Tolerant Painted Calipers and Drums.

02-20-2001, 05:09 PM	#4
MY91GT Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: University of Illinois-Urbana/Champaign Posts: 370	Is it an AOD or a T-5? If its an AOD, get a stall, that would probally be your best bet since you already have gears. If it's an T-5 (which I am assuming b/c you are doing suspension work) then pullys arent a bad idea, or just try to tune the car by bumping the timing and checking your tps voltage. I think that if you do full exaust, suspension, and gears and hook on slicks, you should be well into the 13's. Just my opinion. [This message has been edited by MY91GT (edited 02-20-2001).]

02-20-2001, 05:26 PM	#5
mustangman7777 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Posts: 541	it is a 94 cobra, and yes t-5, what kind of headers should i go for?

02-20-2001, 05:27 PM	#6
MY91GT Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: University of Illinois-Urbana/Champaign Posts: 370	Aw man, you should be almost there with a cobra!!! You already have the heads and intake!!! Just tune the car in and drive it like you stole it!!! ------------------ TW Heads, Edlebrock RPM, 75mm TB, 75mm MM, Anderson N-2 cam, stock block, underdrives, paxton regulator, bbk 155 intank, 30lbers, motorsport alum rad msd ignition and coil, 3.73 gear, Tremec 3550, Motorsport HD clutch, K&N, hooker shorties, pacesetter h-pipe, and dynomax cat back, mac upper and lower control arms, no front sway bar. I think that's it. GO ILLINI!!! Waiting for good weather for new times.

02-21-2001, 12:12 AM	#7
1989GT Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Cincinnati,OH Posts: 1,511	What kind of suspension are you getting installed? At any rate get a pair of slicks or drag radials. I can't remember what all you have done to your car...but I think your ET is in the driving. What's you best ET? MPH? 60'? With slicks and some good driving you should be there. I could never hook for sh!t on street tires...so I bought some BFG drag radials. Some of the best money I ever spent. Nothing like puttin' that power to the ground. Good Luck! ------------------ 89GT,T-5Z, D.S.S. 306 shortblock w\main support, B-303 cam, Cobra intake, GT40P heads, 1.72rr, MAC "P" headers, MAC off-road H-Pipe, MAC true-fit w\tips, 373's...and the list goes on! Throttle Junkie Powered by Ford! 12.824 @ 107.05 MPH PVT Blankenship leaving for BCT 14MAR01 MOS 67 Romeo

02-21-2001, 02:51 AM	#8
chris91LX Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Suburban Chicago, Hanover Park Posts: 695	Good tires, slicks or drag radials, ought to get you there with good driving. There's always nitrous if your not too picky about how you get there. ------------------ 91 LX 5.0 Z t-5, 3:73 gear, Vortech 73mm Mass Air, Accufab 65mm TB, BBK underdrives, Crane HI-6S Ignition, BBK unequal length headers, Bassani x pipe, 2.5" Dynomax Super Turbo cat back, Kenny Brown Super Subs, Factory Five Control Arms, Mac cold air kit and more to come!

02-21-2001, 02:35 PM	#9
mustangman7777 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Posts: 541	i am having, subframes, control arms, and cold air hooked up monday. I live a good 60 miles or so from the track, probably more, how would slicks or drag rads work having to take that kind of a trip. my best 1/4 time so far is 14.2 at 96.8. i know my driving isnt good, but that was right after i got the new shifter and i was still geting used to it. i am not sure what my best 60' time is, but they are usually about 2.3-2.4 or so. i am not into nitrous. but i was thinking of maybe saving for a supercharger.

02-21-2001, 11:27 PM	#10
Killercanary Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Altoona, PA Posts: 336	1. Get a set of Nitto drag radials 2. Underdrive pulleys 3. Homemade air inlet tube With these you will be at or better than 13.8's at 99+mph. In my 95GT convertible, I was running 15.2's at 90mph stock. 3.73's, HD clutch, off road X pipe, 2 chamber flowmasters, and advanced timing took me to a 14.9 at 91.5mph. Underdrive pulleys took me to 14.5-14.6 at 94.8mph. Edelbrock intake, 65mm T-body, alum. DS, and shorty headers took me to 14.3's at 96.5mph with 2.09-2.1 60's on street tires. Now with the Nitto's and homemade inlet tube I run consistent 13.8's at 98mph+, my 60's are now 1.91-1.92. The homemade inlet tube resulted in 1mph and 1 tenth in both mine and my cousin's 94GT, since you are getting the cold air put on that may work the same. Bump your timing up a little too, try 12 and work up from there, I run 13*. Remove your spare, jack, etc. And make sure you get to the track really early, like an hour before it opens so your car will be cold. The 94-95 computers, especially the cobra comp. hate warm engine temps- I see as much as 2 tenths variance in hot lapping my car! Good luck, any more question feel free to email me. ------------------ 95 GT convt' 5 speed, 3.73's,FMS HD clutch, Pro 5.0 shifter, ASP alum. underdrive pulleys, Bassani offroad X pipe, 2 chmbr flowmasters, K&N w/o silencer, edelbrock performer intake, FRPP 65mm T-body, FRPP shorty headers, FRPP aluminum driveshaft.Hooker 4pt chrome car bar, Xenon/Wings West ground effects, custom interior Best ET: 13.83 Best MPH: 98.55mph with Best 60': 1.91 on Nitto DR's Homepage: <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/killercanary" TARGET=_blank>http://www.angelfire

02-23-2001, 08:07 PM	#11
Thad Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Stuart, FL US Posts: 192	Practice1Practice!Practice! That seems to be all you need at this point, along with some street/strip tires to help you out. And listen to my91gt! ------------------ 90 LX 5.0 Not timed in 1/4 mile yet. 135mph max speed, so far.

02-23-2001, 08:40 PM	#12
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Killercanary, Is your car a stick or an auto? Mustangman, Change your cpu to a GT's, get a more agressive cam like an E,B,or F303 and defintely get the pulleys/drag radials. Then you will probaly see consistant mid-low 13's ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-23-2001, 10:46 PM	#13
mustangman7777 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Posts: 541	will a regular 94gt computer work right?

02-24-2001, 08:16 PM	#14
Killercanary Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Altoona, PA Posts: 336	My car is a 5 speed. An extremely heavy 5 speed! Fastang- I noticed you have the B303, I'm looking to get a cam to go with the AFR heads i just got, but am a little worried about idle as so many people with the 94-95's have problems after a cam swap. Did you have any problems? Mustangman- a 94GT would work, but a 89-93 would be better, but you'd need a new harness and MAF I think. ------------------ 95 GT convt' 5 speed, 3.73's,FMS HD clutch, Pro 5.0 shifter, ASP alum. underdrive pulleys, Bassani offroad X pipe, 2 chmbr flowmasters, K&N w/o silencer, edelbrock performer intake, FRPP 65mm T-body, FRPP shorty headers, FRPP aluminum driveshaft.Hooker 4pt chrome car bar, Xenon/Wings West ground effects, custom interior Best ET: 13.83 Best MPH: 98.55mph with Best 60': 1.91 on Nitto DR's Homepage: <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/killercanary" TARGET=_blank>http://www.angelfire

02-24-2001, 11:39 PM	#15
yello95gt Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: jackson,Ms 39208 Posts: 20	you do not need to change the computer in your Cobra. I have had 2 cobras and some friends also have cobras.I personally would not spend the money on mods before you learn how to drive the car properly. I ran a 13.9 in my 93 Cobra with only exhaust and pullies on street tires. so, do the free stuff first and learn to drive like you hate your car and you will be there.Hope this helps

02-25-2001, 03:09 AM	#16
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Yello95GT, The 93 Cobra is substantialy quicker than the 94-95 because its lighter and it has a better CPU. The 94-95 cobras have a HORRIBLE cpu that cuts out the timing in between shifts. Thats why they typicaly run 14.4-14.2 instead of the 13.90's that the 93 runs. Mustangman777, a 94 cpu should work fine and you can probalby find one cheap in a junkyard since 5.0's are always getting raced and wrecked. KillerCanary, I was asking why your car was a stick or an auto because my manual hardtop hit a 14.67 at 96 mph stock. All I did was replace the worn clutch when I bought the car and took it to the track the next week, stock air filter and all. I havent had any problems with my idle after the cam install at all. It sounds great and makes power right where I want it at 4-6 grand which is right where I end up at with my 355's. I would defintitely reccomend this cam. It worked fine with my stock heads even after I milled the $hit out of them. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-25-2001, 03:30 AM	#17
Killercanary Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Altoona, PA Posts: 336	Fastang- I admit I really didn't know how to drive the car when i first hit the strip, but it still took me a hole slew of mods to get to a 14.5 at 95mph. JFYI- my cousin's 94GT coupe ran a 14.8 at 93mph stock. Our Track elevation is 1250 feet above sea level. His 94 coupe weighed 3350 without him, my 95GT convert weighed 3803 with me, and I only weigh 170lbs! I might have been able to get into the 15.0 range, but I doubt I could have gone quicker than that stock. BTW- did you have problems with your accessories bolting up to your heads after they were milled? The reason I ask is because i just ordered a set of AFR's and I was thinking of milling them from 58cc to 54cc, but I was told the power steering bracket and stuff wouldn't line up right since the holes would be off. ------------------ 95 GT convt' 5 speed, 3.73's,FMS HD clutch, Pro 5.0 shifter, ASP alum. underdrive pulleys, Bassani offroad X pipe, 2 chmbr flowmasters, K&N w/o silencer, edelbrock performer intake, FRPP 65mm T-body, FRPP shorty headers, FRPP aluminum driveshaft.Hooker 4pt chrome car bar, Xenon/Wings West ground effects, custom interior Best ET: 13.83 Best MPH: 98.55mph with Best 60': 1.91 on Nitto DR's Homepage: <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/killercanary" TARGET=_blank>http://www.angelfire