5k to spend on motor

FivepointOH · 07-26-2002, 08:01 PM

I'm getting a nice 5k check at the begging of next year. I want to get a whole new motor because mine is coming up to 120k miles and has seen better days. The mods I have are the ones i'm my sig.... i'm gonna need everything else. It's going in a daliy driver, i'd like it to get 80k-100k miles easy and like to get as much hp as I can for my money. What would you guys suggest? I dont know how to install a motor so it would probably have to be 4.5k in the motor so i have 500 left over for the install. I'd like to push as much hp to the wheels that I can and then spray a 100-150 shot on top of that when needed. What kind of setup would I need? Any and all suggestions appreciated.

Skyman · 07-26-2002, 09:13 PM

I would go with your normal Heads/cam/intake mustang with 10.5:1 compression, a setup that peaks around 5500-5800rpm.

Skyler

FivepointOH · 07-27-2002, 03:13 AM

That's what I was planning on sky but wanted to get peoples opinions on what brand of motor to get and what motor/h/i/c i could afford with my budget.....trying to get my car as fast as yours.

88workcar · 07-27-2002, 05:38 AM

1000.00 RHO shortblock E cam
1400.00 AFR 165s hardened push rods ARP headbolts
550.00 Edelbrock Vic efi intake
500.00 Roller Rockers, 24lb injectors
????.?? Plenty left over
Good luck, Jason

drtbiker · 07-27-2002, 10:54 AM

i am looking into, infact buying the gt 40 long block motor from downsford, it sells for 3095.00. I am going to install it with my dad and a few buddys. They claim that it has 345hp with ford induction i am not sure what intakes though, they dont state that but. the motor comes with a b303 cam or a e303 cam you get to choose. The motor really comes with everything but intake exaust throtle body. i am not sure if that helps but that is a sugestion

-raini

FivepointOH · 07-27-2002, 11:45 AM

88workcar: What company is RHO? I've never heard of them before.....

Skyman · 07-27-2002, 02:18 PM

Well I am a fan of the TW heads. I wouldnt run a Vic JR intake, as it would kill your lowend.

I have a holley intake now, and I relly prefered the edelbrock for normal driving. Way more useable hp and torque in the lowend. My edelbrock w/ 1.6 rockers on a E-Cam peaked right around 5500. With GREAT power starting at 2500rpm.

Now my car peaks about 5800-5900, with power starting up near 3500+ rpms.

I would go w/ any one of the companies out there for a good shortblock w/ about 10.5:1 compression. TFS TW heads, Edelbrock RPM intake, a cam that peaks around 5800rpm (you'll have higher compression to help give you more lowend than me, and you have long tubes). You will need a TB/MAF, Injectors, rockers little things, and that should do it!

Skyler

tireburner163 · 07-27-2002, 02:50 PM

DSS short block: 1500
TFS heads: 1100
Holley intake: 550

that still leaves about 2K to this, that, and the other with.

1BAD89 · 07-27-2002, 10:10 PM

With a strong heads/cam/intake combo, and nitrous... your stock AOD is going to be toast. Don't forget your misc. gaskets, injectors, etc.. etc...

DemonGT · 07-28-2002, 08:09 PM

call CCM(centeral coast mustang) and get a long block from them...

over the winter ill be geting a 342(stock bore) long block with AFR 185 heads

88workcar · 07-28-2002, 09:58 PM

Five point, RHO is a ford Remanufactured High Output All of the ford dealers sell them. They can sell this motor for 899.00 Don't let your local dealer LYE and try to tell you otherwise. The DSS is a kit for 1500, the shortblock is another 1000. Good stuff though.

srv1 · 07-28-2002, 10:36 PM

well this is what i would do since you said daily driver. ported and polished/milled GT40's or "P" heads. 1.7's. stock cam or a "E" cam. cobra intake or explorer(save some dough). lentech AOD with a better stall, 190 pump, kirban adj regulator, 24lbs, 75 C&L, MSD, canton pan with scraper and a stock oil pump.

anyone correct me here if i am wrong
40 heads $850
P heads $530 plus headers $230
1.7's $175-$300
stock cam $0 "E" $170
Cobra Intake $400 Explorer(used) $100-$350
Lentech $2000 Terminator AOD
190 pump $100-120
Kirban $100
24lbs $225-$240
76 C&L $220-240
Canton $225
oil pump $40
hardened oil pump shaft $22.50

that brings it to $5200 on the high side of parts.

most of you guys would say get a short block, but if he goes this way, he would have the parts for a better motor down the road and he would have a tranny to handle it.

MILD NOT WILD for a daily driver. trust me you wont like a 11 sec daily driver, but you would like it as a weekend warrior car!

guys this is what i do so i set myself up later down the road for more improvements. is it good? let me know, i dont want to steer him in the wrong direction.

srv1 · 07-28-2002, 10:37 PM

oops! i forgot to mention machining and a timing chain. sorry

FivepointOH · 07-29-2002, 02:37 AM

I was actually trying to save for gt40p heads and a cobra intake with ecam until I found out I was getting a 5k check in jan. Oh and supposedly my longtubes would work with p heads. A lentech would be nice but my motor has 120k on it and has seen better days and I don't know how long it would hold up with the added power of h/c/i combo. I was thinking of a dss pro bullet 306(want to run 11's eventually and supposedly they can support that kind of power) for 2k. Haven't decided on what kind of h/i/c to run on it though. Leaning towards AFR or TFS, edelbrock intake and not sure on the intake. How hard would it be for me to put together this motor? I've installed struts/shocks, radiator, pulleys, alternator. I have a friend that's very mechanically inclined that's done carbed motors before but never efi and he says he's scared too because of all the wires and stuff...... Thanks for all the help/suggestions guys keep it coming...

Conman · 07-29-2002, 10:29 AM

well a motor swap is a bit more intense than struts and pulley's but if your buddy comes over the two of you could probably pull it off
efi is nothing to be scared of

and if you run into problems there is always the board here to get some help

07-26-2002, 08:01 PM	#1
FivepointOH Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Sugar Land, Tx USA Posts: 478	5k to spend on motor I'm getting a nice 5k check at the begging of next year. I want to get a whole new motor because mine is coming up to 120k miles and has seen better days. The mods I have are the ones i'm my sig.... i'm gonna need everything else. It's going in a daliy driver, i'd like it to get 80k-100k miles easy and like to get as much hp as I can for my money. What would you guys suggest? I dont know how to install a motor so it would probably have to be 4.5k in the motor so i have 500 left over for the install. I'd like to push as much hp to the wheels that I can and then spray a 100-150 shot on top of that when needed. What kind of setup would I need? Any and all suggestions appreciated. __________________ 92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 Lakewood 90/10's and 50/50's

07-26-2002, 09:13 PM	#2
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	I would go with your normal Heads/cam/intake mustang with 10.5:1 compression, a setup that peaks around 5500-5800rpm. Skyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

07-27-2002, 05:38 AM	#4
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	1000.00 RHO shortblock E cam 1400.00 AFR 165s hardened push rods ARP headbolts 550.00 Edelbrock Vic efi intake 500.00 Roller Rockers, 24lb injectors ????.?? Plenty left over Good luck, Jason __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

07-27-2002, 10:54 AM	#5
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	i am looking into, infact buying the gt 40 long block motor from downsford, it sells for 3095.00. I am going to install it with my dad and a few buddys. They claim that it has 345hp with ford induction i am not sure what intakes though, they dont state that but. the motor comes with a b303 cam or a e303 cam you get to choose. The motor really comes with everything but intake exaust throtle body. i am not sure if that helps but that is a sugestion -raini __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

07-27-2002, 11:45 AM	#6
FivepointOH Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Sugar Land, Tx USA Posts: 478	88workcar: What company is RHO? I've never heard of them before..... __________________ 92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 Lakewood 90/10's and 50/50's

07-27-2002, 03:13 AM	#3
FivepointOH Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Sugar Land, Tx USA Posts: 478	That's what I was planning on sky but wanted to get peoples opinions on what brand of motor to get and what motor/h/i/c i could afford with my budget.....trying to get my car as fast as yours.

07-27-2002, 02:18 PM	#7
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Well I am a fan of the TW heads. I wouldnt run a Vic JR intake, as it would kill your lowend. I have a holley intake now, and I relly prefered the edelbrock for normal driving. Way more useable hp and torque in the lowend. My edelbrock w/ 1.6 rockers on a E-Cam peaked right around 5500. With GREAT power starting at 2500rpm. Now my car peaks about 5800-5900, with power starting up near 3500+ rpms. I would go w/ any one of the companies out there for a good shortblock w/ about 10.5:1 compression. TFS TW heads, Edelbrock RPM intake, a cam that peaks around 5800rpm (you'll have higher compression to help give you more lowend than me, and you have long tubes). You will need a TB/MAF, Injectors, rockers little things, and that should do it! Skyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

07-27-2002, 02:50 PM	#8
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	DSS short block: 1500 TFS heads: 1100 Holley intake: 550 that still leaves about 2K to this, that, and the other with. __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

07-27-2002, 10:10 PM	#9
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	With a strong heads/cam/intake combo, and nitrous... your stock AOD is going to be toast. Don't forget your misc. gaskets, injectors, etc.. etc...

07-28-2002, 08:09 PM	#10
DemonGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 879	call CCM(centeral coast mustang) and get a long block from them... over the winter ill be geting a 342(stock bore) long block with AFR 185 heads __________________ '91 GT,410W,10.5 to 1 comp,Victor Jr. heads,Victor 5.8 intake,FTI cam,Crane retro fit lifters,Scorpian 1.6 RR's,Melling HV oil pump,MSD distro.,Canton oil pan,FMS flywheel,Romac balancer,FMS timing chain,Accufab 90mm TB,C&L 76mm maf, 42lbers,HD clutch,K&N air filter,Mac long tubes,Pro dumps,powerchamber,FMS 9mm wires,180 thermostat,Ford Racing gauges,5inch Tach,centerline convo pro's,nitto DR's,Pro3i lower control arms,50/50 shocks,3.55 gears,TFS HD diff. cover Next year: Tremec TKO,Spec stage 3 clutch,alum driveshaft,complete fuel system www.angelfire.com/linux/demondan

07-28-2002, 09:58 PM	#11
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Five point, RHO is a ford Remanufactured High Output All of the ford dealers sell them. They can sell this motor for 899.00 Don't let your local dealer LYE and try to tell you otherwise. The DSS is a kit for 1500, the shortblock is another 1000. Good stuff though. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

07-28-2002, 10:36 PM	#12
srv1 Get down..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Room 103 Posts: 2,095	well this is what i would do since you said daily driver. ported and polished/milled GT40's or "P" heads. 1.7's. stock cam or a "E" cam. cobra intake or explorer(save some dough). lentech AOD with a better stall, 190 pump, kirban adj regulator, 24lbs, 75 C&L, MSD, canton pan with scraper and a stock oil pump. anyone correct me here if i am wrong 40 heads $850 P heads $530 plus headers $230 1.7's $175-$300 stock cam $0 "E" $170 Cobra Intake $400 Explorer(used) $100-$350 Lentech $2000 Terminator AOD 190 pump $100-120 Kirban $100 24lbs $225-$240 76 C&L $220-240 Canton $225 oil pump $40 hardened oil pump shaft $22.50 that brings it to $5200 on the high side of parts. most of you guys would say get a short block, but if he goes this way, he would have the parts for a better motor down the road and he would have a tranny to handle it. MILD NOT WILD for a daily driver. trust me you wont like a 11 sec daily driver, but you would like it as a weekend warrior car! guys this is what i do so i set myself up later down the road for more improvements. is it good? let me know, i dont want to steer him in the wrong direction. __________________ Cobra brakes are on! Finally..... ------------------------------------------------

07-28-2002, 10:37 PM	#13
srv1 Get down..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Room 103 Posts: 2,095	oops! i forgot to mention machining and a timing chain. sorry __________________ Cobra brakes are on! Finally..... ------------------------------------------------

07-29-2002, 02:37 AM	#14
FivepointOH Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Sugar Land, Tx USA Posts: 478	I was actually trying to save for gt40p heads and a cobra intake with ecam until I found out I was getting a 5k check in jan. Oh and supposedly my longtubes would work with p heads. A lentech would be nice but my motor has 120k on it and has seen better days and I don't know how long it would hold up with the added power of h/c/i combo. I was thinking of a dss pro bullet 306(want to run 11's eventually and supposedly they can support that kind of power) for 2k. Haven't decided on what kind of h/i/c to run on it though. Leaning towards AFR or TFS, edelbrock intake and not sure on the intake. How hard would it be for me to put together this motor? I've installed struts/shocks, radiator, pulleys, alternator. I have a friend that's very mechanically inclined that's done carbed motors before but never efi and he says he's scared too because of all the wires and stuff...... Thanks for all the help/suggestions guys keep it coming... __________________ 92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 Lakewood 90/10's and 50/50's

07-29-2002, 10:29 AM	#15
Conman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 351	well a motor swap is a bit more intense than struts and pulley's but if your buddy comes over the two of you could probably pull it off efi is nothing to be scared of and if you run into problems there is always the board here to get some help __________________ '88 lx, Black on Black, check it out here Spent all my money on school, what a dumb mistake I'm old enough to know better, but still too young to care.

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