Car Won't Start Part Two

90LxDroptop · 04-15-2003, 10:35 PM

Heyo everyone. Here's the problem. My car won't start. It'll rev till about 400 rpms but that's it. I tried cranking it and stepping on the gas a little bit while i crank it, but that doesn't work. Doesn't even seem like it wants to start. Can anyone help me out? I'm getting fuel, and I'm getting spark...grrrr...help please!!!

- Suave

BilLster · 04-15-2003, 10:39 PM

you could of flooded it real bad stepping on the gas is a bad idea with fuel injection .

take the plugs out turn the fuel pump off (in the back and crank it over and see if gas is coming out.

it could be just bad flooded or weak spark but if its flooded bad leave it sitting plugs out throttle body held open over night hope this helps.

the tps could be gone or distributor could of moved but i would check for flooded cylenders first.

fiveohpatrol · 04-16-2003, 12:20 AM

you can't flood an EFI car that way.

Did the problem just come out of nowhere or did you change something or have it worked on recently?

How do you know you are getting fuel and spark?

ChunkFunky · 04-16-2003, 07:57 AM

I had a friend with an RX7.. I know it's a totaly different motor......It worked fine when he parked it.. and then it just wouldnt start two days later.. so we changed the plugs (wich were NASTY)... we could smell the fuel so we knew he was getting gas... after he towed it to a shop they found it was the Mass Air Meter...
I dunno if that's your problem... but just telling my story.
-as

90LxDroptop · 04-16-2003, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fiveohpatrol
you can't flood an EFI car that way.

Did the problem just come out of nowhere or did you change something or have it worked on recently?

How do you know you are getting fuel and spark?

I arched a spark plug wire on the intake and saw spark. and pressed in on the nozzle on the fuel line where a fuel pressure regulator goes. And I did do a heads/cam/intake

BilLster · 04-16-2003, 09:16 AM

check the distributor , you did a cam swap ? did you index it right

have some one move the distributor while you crank the engine over .

and you can flood a efi car that way.

next time you have your injectors out prime the fuel system
and move the throttle switch to wot the injectors will fire.

that has been my experience and also ive seen efi cars flooded so bad we have had to take the intake off.

ps i came up with this one as we have a efi car that is totally flooded gas all over the cylenders they flooded it after shutting it down and there fuel pump has been staying on lovely mess

plugs are out and throttle body stuck open

good luck i think it has more to do with the cam swap

jerrys84 · 04-16-2003, 10:44 AM

sounds like a timing problem.

fiveohpatrol · 04-16-2003, 02:34 PM

Quote:

sounds like a timing problem.

I agree

If you have fuel and spark and your firing order is right (1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8), then your distributor could be installed "180" off

drtbiker · 04-18-2003, 11:02 PM

George your kinda making me angry now. Why dont you call me or come by my house and we can get it straightend out. I see you let chevy guys touch your car but i swing by ur house and u never give me a call or anything. This weds i have off so give me a call and ill be over in a sec. Otherwise i dont think ur ever going to get the car on the street!!!

later

04-15-2003, 10:35 PM	#1
90LxDroptop Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Arlington Hts. IL Posts: 315	Car Won't Start Part Two Heyo everyone. Here's the problem. My car won't start. It'll rev till about 400 rpms but that's it. I tried cranking it and stepping on the gas a little bit while i crank it, but that doesn't work. Doesn't even seem like it wants to start. Can anyone help me out? I'm getting fuel, and I'm getting spark...grrrr...help please!!! - Suave __________________ 90 LX Convertible 5.0 AOD 3.73 Gears, Underdrive Pulleys, TransGo shift kit, A servo, Subframe Connectors, o/r h-pipe, 2 chamber flows, Pony Wheels

04-15-2003, 10:39 PM	#2
BilLster Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ontario canada Posts: 446	you could of flooded it real bad stepping on the gas is a bad idea with fuel injection . take the plugs out turn the fuel pump off (in the back and crank it over and see if gas is coming out. it could be just bad flooded or weak spark but if its flooded bad leave it sitting plugs out throttle body held open over night hope this helps. the tps could be gone or distributor could of moved but i would check for flooded cylenders first. __________________ 89 with 331 t3'/t4 hybrids. upr Suspention worked out finnaly . 9.89 144 mph .

04-16-2003, 12:20 AM	#3
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	you can't flood an EFI car that way. Did the problem just come out of nowhere or did you change something or have it worked on recently? How do you know you are getting fuel and spark? __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

04-16-2003, 07:57 AM	#4
ChunkFunky Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tustin, CA Posts: 465	I had a friend with an RX7.. I know it's a totaly different motor......It worked fine when he parked it.. and then it just wouldnt start two days later.. so we changed the plugs (wich were NASTY)... we could smell the fuel so we knew he was getting gas... after he towed it to a shop they found it was the Mass Air Meter... I dunno if that's your problem... but just telling my story. -as __________________ '89 GT Convertible: TFS TW Heads, TFS Street Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FMS 1.6 RRs, 24# Injectors, Pro-M 75mm MAF, No Name CAI, 3.73s, O/R H-Pipe, FlowMasters, AOD w/ Trans-Go Shift Kit

04-16-2003, 09:16 AM	#6
BilLster Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ontario canada Posts: 446	check the distributor , you did a cam swap ? did you index it right have some one move the distributor while you crank the engine over . and you can flood a efi car that way. next time you have your injectors out prime the fuel system and move the throttle switch to wot the injectors will fire. that has been my experience and also ive seen efi cars flooded so bad we have had to take the intake off. ps i came up with this one as we have a efi car that is totally flooded gas all over the cylenders they flooded it after shutting it down and there fuel pump has been staying on lovely mess plugs are out and throttle body stuck open good luck i think it has more to do with the cam swap __________________ 89 with 331 t3'/t4 hybrids. upr Suspention worked out finnaly . 9.89 144 mph .

04-16-2003, 10:44 AM	#7
jerrys84 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: minnesota Posts: 129	sounds like a timing problem. __________________ 91 LX 'work in progress' previous stangs; lightly modded 84GT 81 2.3 converted to 302 auto

04-18-2003, 11:02 PM	#9
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	George your kinda making me angry now. Why dont you call me or come by my house and we can get it straightend out. I see you let chevy guys touch your car but i swing by ur house and u never give me a call or anything. This weds i have off so give me a call and ill be over in a sec. Otherwise i dont think ur ever going to get the car on the street!!! later __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

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