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Old 03-13-2008, 12:51 AM   #1
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Exclamation Help With A Swap,

HEY JUST BOUT TO DO A SWAP, GOING FROM A 97, 3.8 TO A 5.0.... NOW I KNOW ALL THE MAJOR CONCERNS BUT REALLY LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE THE SWAP OR DIRECT ME TO SOME ONE WHO IS WILLING TO HELP PROBLEM SOLVE ISSUES,


NOW LET ME LET YALL IN ON WHAT IM WORKING WITH, 89 5.0 BORED TO A 306...PROBE DOME TOP FORGED PISTONS UPPING THE CR TO 10.5:1 REBUILT INTERNALS NEW BEARINGS, E303 CAM 1.6:1 RR, GT40 HEADS P&P WITH THE FULL VALVE JOB OF 1.94(INT) 1.60(EXH) NEW RODS BOLTING ON THE 94-95 FRONT BRACKETS FOR THE ACC. U/D PULLIES STOCK 89 INTAKE ( JUST TO SEE WHAT THE DYNO SAYS) 94-95 WIRING HARNESS AND TRANNY HARNESS OUT OF A DONOR CAR....

NOW.... THOUGHTS I HAVE,

-HOW DO I SET UP THE LINKAGE ON THE THROTTLE BODYS
-DO I NEED TO SET UP THE EGR VALVE OFF A 89-93 CAUSE IM NOT USING THE 94-95 GT UPPER
-HOOD CLEARANCE ISSUES ( WILL I BE OK)
-WHAT BOUT THE OBD2 SYSTEM, WILL HOOKING IT UP TO A OBD1 FRY THE EEC ( THE DATA LINK CONNECTION, )
- DO I NEED THE UNDER THE DASH WIRING, LOOKS LIKE IT WILL PLUG AND PLAY,
-DOES ANY ONE "REALLY " KNOW HOW P.A.T.S.WORKS, IF I SWAP THE COMP, WILL IT STILL WORK, IT JUST SEEMS AS AN INTERRUPTER..NO CHIP NO SIGNAL TO COMP TO START, )
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AND THE LIST GROWS THE MORE I THINK BOUT IT.. JUST THOUGHT ID THROW THAT OUT TO SEE WHAT YALL THINK , THANKS....JAMES (KT TX)
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Old 03-13-2008, 06:11 AM   #2
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Default Re: Help With A Swap,

hey bud i did the swap from 4cly to 5.0 in my 93, my doner car was a 91 the only prob i had was the 93 had the fuel pump relay under the hood on the 4cly harness. i wish i new more about the newer ones but i didnt have to touch the dash harness on mine and i bet u wont on your either. i put gt guadge cluster in my v6 and every thing reads fine so i guess the wiring on the 6 and gt are the same. if u want the easy way put a carb on it and a msd ignition. but if u go to MPS they can help u. good luck the only thing i can tell you is the upper intake will not clear on a sn95 mustang, that why the 94 95 mustang 5.0s had a different upper intake to claer the shock tower, but they my make a adapter for the older intakes.
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Old 03-13-2008, 09:44 AM   #3
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Default Re: Help With A Swap,

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HEY JUST BOUT TO DO A SWAP, GOING FROM A 97, 3.8 TO A 5.0.... NOW I KNOW ALL THE MAJOR CONCERNS BUT REALLY LOOKING FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE THE SWAP OR DIRECT ME TO SOME ONE WHO IS WILLING TO HELP PROBLEM SOLVE ISSUES,


NOW LET ME LET YALL IN ON WHAT IM WORKING WITH, 89 5.0 BORED TO A 306...PROBE DOME TOP FORGED PISTONS UPPING THE CR TO 10.5:1 REBUILT INTERNALS NEW BEARINGS, E303 CAM 1.6:1 RR, GT40 HEADS P&P WITH THE FULL VALVE JOB OF 1.94(INT) 1.60(EXH) NEW RODS BOLTING ON THE 94-95 FRONT BRACKETS FOR THE ACC. U/D PULLIES STOCK 89 INTAKE ( JUST TO SEE WHAT THE DYNO SAYS) 94-95 WIRING HARNESS AND TRANNY HARNESS OUT OF A DONOR CAR....

NOW.... THOUGHTS I HAVE,

-HOW DO I SET UP THE LINKAGE ON THE THROTTLE BODYS
-DO I NEED TO SET UP THE EGR VALVE OFF A 89-93 CAUSE IM NOT USING THE 94-95 GT UPPER
-HOOD CLEARANCE ISSUES ( WILL I BE OK)
-WHAT BOUT THE OBD2 SYSTEM, WILL HOOKING IT UP TO A OBD1 FRY THE EEC ( THE DATA LINK CONNECTION, )
- DO I NEED THE UNDER THE DASH WIRING, LOOKS LIKE IT WILL PLUG AND PLAY,
-DOES ANY ONE "REALLY " KNOW HOW P.A.T.S.WORKS, IF I SWAP THE COMP, WILL IT STILL WORK, IT JUST SEEMS AS AN INTERRUPTER..NO CHIP NO SIGNAL TO COMP TO START, )
- ?
-?
-?
-?

AND THE LIST GROWS THE MORE I THINK BOUT IT.. JUST THOUGHT ID THROW THAT OUT TO SEE WHAT YALL THINK , THANKS....JAMES (KT TX)

First off-use the 94-95 GT upper cause it will simplify the hell out of the install. get a 94-95 TB linkage and 94-95 EGR.

The PATS system is a pain in the ass to get around.

If the dash wiring plugs up you should be good.

If you are using a 94-95 5.0 harness,sensors and ECU you should be good.

I helped a guy put a 4.6 in a 1992 coupe and the PATS system drove us crazy. I suspect it will have to be disabled when doing a 5.0swap
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:19 PM   #4
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First off-use the 94-95 GT upper cause it will simplify the hell out of the install. get a 94-95 TB linkage and 94-95 EGR.

The PATS system is a pain in the ass to get around.

If the dash wiring plugs up you should be good.

If you are using a 94-95 5.0 harness,sensors and ECU you should be good.

I helped a guy put a 4.6 in a 1992 coupe and the PATS system drove us crazy. I suspect it will have to be disabled when doing a 5.0swap
THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS, IS THERE ANYWAY TO GIVE ME A HEADS UP OF HOW TO DISABLE IT,?? ( PATS)
- THE UPPER AND LOWER ARE ALREADY PORTED W/ A 70mm TB AND ALL READY TO GO, DOESNT THE 4.6 SIT HIGHER IN THE ENGINE BAY THAN 5.0 ??
- JUST GETTING THE COLD FEET IF YOU WILL BOUT THE SWAP, I KNOW ITS NOT GONNA ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS AND WILL STILL HAVE HURDLES TO JUMP, JUST THE THOUGHT OF NOT HAVING A CAR FOR A MONTH IS KINDA TOUGH SEEING AS ITS A D.D.
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THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS, IS THERE ANYWAY TO GIVE ME A HEADS UP OF HOW TO DISABLE IT,?? ( PATS)
- THE UPPER AND LOWER ARE ALREADY PORTED W/ A 70mm TB AND ALL READY TO GO, DOESNT THE 4.6 SIT HIGHER IN THE ENGINE BAY THAN 5.0 ??
- JUST GETTING THE COLD FEET IF YOU WILL BOUT THE SWAP, I KNOW ITS NOT GONNA ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS AND WILL STILL HAVE HURDLES TO JUMP, JUST THE THOUGHT OF NOT HAVING A CAR FOR A MONTH IS KINDA TOUGH SEEING AS ITS A D.D.
PASS THIS ON AND SEE IF ANYONE JUMPS ON THE THREAD... GONNA DO A LIL MORE RESEARCH AND SEE WHERE TO GO FROM THERE...CAN PM ME IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING GOOD... I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEMS MIGHT BE....JUST LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS...
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