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Old 09-08-2005, 11:00 PM   #1
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Default Clutch suggestions for new motor

306, Forged pistons, Eagle rods, stock crank, Typhoon intake ('cause I got one), 65mm T.B., 70mm "cobra" air meter ('cause I got 'em), AFR 165 heads, Trick flow #1 cam (221*/225*@.050 .530/.542 lift W/ my 1.7 RR's).
Am I stuck with 24# injectors or does the '93 cobra meter have interchangable flow tubes? I know the meter and T.B are a bit small but I got them so for now...
I think I may have to go to 36# injectors?
I've been speed density up until now but I have a CPU and the meter, have to buy injectors either way.
Oh yeah, I wanted input on a clutch? T-5 3.73's 70% street car.

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Old 09-09-2005, 04:06 AM   #2
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Centerforce dual friction or Ford racing king cobra are good clutches. Centerforce is a little pricey, but worth it.
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Old 09-09-2005, 06:57 AM   #3
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Centerforce dual friction or Ford racing king cobra are good clutches. Centerforce is a little pricey, but worth it.
Yep! Centerforce DF, or RAM DF. Like IEC said, little pricey, and a little "grabby" but well worth the extra bux.
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Old 09-09-2005, 07:34 PM   #4
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yea those r nice... spec has some nice ones also
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Old 09-10-2005, 11:16 AM   #5
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306, Forged pistons, Eagle rods, stock crank, Typhoon intake ('cause I got one), 65mm T.B., 70mm "cobra" air meter ('cause I got 'em), AFR 165 heads, Trick flow #1 cam (221*/225*@.050 .530/.542 lift W/ my 1.7 RR's).
Am I stuck with 24# injectors or does the '93 cobra meter have interchangable flow tubes? I know the meter and T.B are a bit small but I got them so for now...
I think I may have to go to 36# injectors?
I've been speed density up until now but I have a CPU and the meter, have to buy injectors either way.
Oh yeah, I wanted input on a clutch? T-5 3.73's 70% street car.

All suggestions appreciated
Wes
Use the stock 19# injectors with the cobra meter. You are nowhere near close to maxing out the stock 19# injectors. The Cobra meter is calibrated for 19# injectors so it will be cool.

To use the cobra meter with 24#ers you would have to have a cobra ecu.

36# injectors would be way in the phuck too big.

BTW I have been running a $159.00 Ford racing clutch for the last 3 years with no problems on a high 12 second car.
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:17 PM   #6
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I'm thinking about a spec stage 1, how much stiffer can I expect the pedal to be?
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Old 09-18-2005, 05:45 PM   #7
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Still haven't made a choice yet , a D.F. clutch has a heavier peddle than the ford or spec clutches, is this correct?
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Still haven't made a choice yet , a D.F. clutch has a heavier peddle than the ford or spec clutches, is this correct?
NO! The clutch has NO effect on pedal pressure. Pressure plate, cable, and quadrant are where the effort comes in.

I'm running a RAM sintered Iron clutch disc, a Borg/Beck style pressure plate (3 prongs instead of "fingers") and the clutch feels no different than stock.

The CLUTCH/Pressure Plate have to match the horsepower/torque you're making. The rest is gravy.............
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a Borg/Beck style pressure plate (3 prongs instead of "fingers")
This is often referred to as the "long style" pressure plate. The style like the stock one and many aftermarket ones like ford racing and dual friction is referred to as the "diaphram" pressure plate.
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This is often referred to as the "long style" pressure plate. The style like the stock one and many aftermarket ones like ford racing and dual friction is referred to as the "diaphram" pressure plate.
Actually, I made a boo boo. IEC is right, I'm running a "long style", and THERE IS a difference between a long style, and a Borg & Beck style pressure plate.

My bad!

Since we're talking about clutches, don't forget about my buddy Walt down at ProMotion Powertrains, in Florida. He makes a bunch of killer clutch setups!!! I'm stepping up to one of his Kevlar systems this winter. If his clutches are ANYTHING like his trannys are, then I'm all over it like a fat kid on a donut. LOVE that tranny he built for me!
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So what is the difference between the long style and the Borg & Beck? I have never even heard of Borg & Beck.

Hey man, what's walt paying you for your advertisement? J/K
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So what is the difference between the long style and the Borg & Beck? I have never even heard of Borg & Beck.
Not sure exactly, but look in your Summit catalog, there's a difference. We need Andy or Jeff in here for this. I THINK the Borg and Beck is the "adjustable" type version of what I run. High end type stuff.

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Hey man, what's walt paying you for your advertisement? J/K
LMAO He pays me with that BIG SHYT EATIN GRIN on my face each and every time I take that car down the track! LOL She shifts like a cold steel shifter through HOT butter! This tranny is KILLER!!!
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