BBK or Hooker Super Comp longtubes?

Mean50 · 12-14-2003, 11:51 PM

During my switch over to the 351w based engine I was wondering which header would be the best choice. I am considering the Hooker Super Comps or the bbk chrome longtubes. They both have 1 3/4" tubes with 3" collectors, but the Hookers are about $100 more. The BBKs look better, but I was wondering if anyone has used either of these in their swaps and do they fit well? Just by looking at them, the BBKs seem to be the way to go, but I would like some opinions. Thanks!

89fast5oh · 12-15-2003, 12:30 AM

I used the BBK swap long tubes on my stang and they fit great. Easy to install, don't leak and at a reasonable price. Also the Hooker's come black, and you all know what happens to that.....my chrome BBKs barely tarnished in a year of use. BBK is the only exhaust I would every buy again.

eeh1025 · 12-17-2003, 06:36 PM

Hey there i also have the BBK longtube, they are crome and its weird because they did tarnish and even have a mild rust on them. but they work well

tireburner163 · 12-18-2003, 08:28 PM

I've got BBK longtubes on my car and they fit like crap. One tube touches the starter. The other side rubs the steering shaft. I had to shim the motor mounts 1/2" to keep the rag joint from hitting one of the tubes. I'll never buy another BBK product again.

-Josh, aka the tireburner

Five0 · 12-22-2003, 12:09 AM

I had the hooker and the mac long tubes and the hooker headers were much better. IMO

Also sounded better.

T5superduty · 12-22-2003, 01:47 AM

Ive got some hooker super comps and if your goin for looks go bbk if you want max power go hooker

420nitro · 12-22-2003, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by T5superduty
Ive got some hooker super comps and if your goin for looks go bbk if you want max power go hooker

If you want max power....then go you with Kook headers..

420nitro · 12-22-2003, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 420nitro
If you want max power....then go you with Kook headers..

They also fit way better then any other header I have ever seen. They fit even better then my Mac 1 5/8 long tube headers did!!!!!!!!!!!!! No bull ****.

Five0 · 12-22-2003, 08:38 AM

Kooks will be very easy to install because the tubes are all seperate and slide into the collector, they will also make the most power as long as you dont get too big for your combo.

They will need to be coated, mine did not come coated and I paid 300 to have them coated. I have over 1000 in mine.

For what you are looking for I would go with the hooker headers,
They will build more power than the bbk and mac, They did fit better that the mac but I have no experience with the bbk.

The hooker sounded a lot better than the mac longtubes did too.

Five0 · 12-22-2003, 08:42 AM

List of mods:

Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, roller rockers, 7 ½ quart oil pan, 1 7/8” kooks race headers, vic jr. intake, 750 Holley carburetor, MSD distributor, 28oz SFI balancer, 3” dr. gas x-pipe, 3” Mac cat back system, PA super comp c-4 transmission, ultra bell, safety shield, Neal Chance converter 4000 rpm stall, Jacobs wires, 28 oz. flex plate SFI, Aluminum driveshaft, Safety loop, 3.55 gears, auburn pro diff, 31 spline Moser axels, 3 ½” studs, weld rims, sub frames, battle boxes, drag shocks and struts, Hal K-member, aero space pro street brakes, cheetah turbo action shifter, msd digital 6+, msd coil, afco aluminum radiator, electric fan, rear sump tank, aeromotive A-1000 fuel pump, #8 fuel feed #6 return, Mallory FPR, Southside machine upper and lower control arms, 6 point custom roll cage, Carbon fiber tach, Fuel pressure gauge, water temp gauge, nitrous pressure gauge, edelbrock performer rpm nitrous kit, Purge kit, under drive pulleys, extra nitrous bottle, 5 point harness.

Engine built by Brent Frazier.

420nitro · 12-22-2003, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Five0
List of mods:

Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, roller rockers, 7 ½ quart oil pan, 1 7/8” kooks race headers, vic jr. intake, 750 Holley carburetor, MSD distributor, 28oz SFI balancer, 3” dr. gas x-pipe, 3” Mac cat back system, PA super comp c-4 transmission, ultra bell, safety shield, Neal Chance converter 4000 rpm stall, Jacobs wires, 28 oz. flex plate SFI, Aluminum driveshaft, Safety loop, 3.55 gears, auburn pro diff, 31 spline Moser axels, 3 ½” studs, weld rims, sub frames, battle boxes, drag shocks and struts, Hal K-member, aero space pro street brakes, cheetah turbo action shifter, msd digital 6+, msd coil, afco aluminum radiator, electric fan, rear sump tank, aeromotive A-1000 fuel pump, #8 fuel feed #6 return, Mallory FPR, Southside machine upper and lower control arms, 6 point custom roll cage, Carbon fiber tach, Fuel pressure gauge, water temp gauge, nitrous pressure gauge, edelbrock performer rpm nitrous kit, Purge kit, under drive pulleys, extra nitrous bottle, 5 point harness.

Engine built by Brent Frazier.

Hey man ....Thanks
You just got me out of the dog house....I just showed your list to my wife and told her "see honey, I am not the only guy to spend over 30,000 dollars on a build up!

"
As goes for the headers, yea if it was only between the Hooker and BBK headers then yea, I would have to agree with you and say the Hookers (that name even sounds better.

) It's just that a saw "if you want max power, go with ...) I just wanted my two cents in....sorry, I know nobody wanted it.

...

Mean50 · 12-22-2003, 08:54 PM

Thanks for all the comments. I will let you know which ones I decide to go with!

Five0 · 12-22-2003, 09:30 PM

Hey Mean50 you were right on the money with the kooks fit and more power, And if he were like me and you he would have to have the best.

The funny thing about your comment is I was adding up everything I have in my car and I really have spent over 30k on it.

Almost depressing

, I hope my wife does not read this. She does not know how much I have really spent on this car. She would kill me if she knew. She only knows about 15 to 20k, she would kill me.

Five0 · 12-22-2003, 09:34 PM

BTW:Nice car!!!!!

What does it run?

420nitro · 12-22-2003, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Five0
Hey Mean50 you were right on the money with the kooks fit and more power, And if he were like me and you he would have to have the best.

The funny thing about your comment is I was adding up everything I have in my car and I really have spent over 30k on it.

Almost depressing, I hope my wife does not read this. She does not know how much I have really spent on this car. She would kill me if she knew. She only knows about 15 to 20k, she would kill me.

Hey Five0 got a question...your reply....was it meant for me (420nitro) or mean50?

Because I made the comments about the kook headers and stuff.
thanks

Five0 · 12-23-2003, 12:00 AM

Haha sorry, It was to you!

Five0 · 12-23-2003, 12:05 AM

420 nitro I was refering to your car.

I was at a friends house and he has dial up service and I get frustrated with the slow speed and did not take my time to read the post carfully.

420nitro · 12-23-2003, 12:19 AM

Tell me about it....can't live with out broad band! Dail up is pain full!

But yea have to agree, got to have the good ****...Got to pay if you want to be the boss

As goes for how fast the car is....I havn't made a pass yet....just finished...A couple guys with simlar parts went L-O-W 10's off the spray. If my car runs consistant mid tens off the bottle then I would be happy.
Car went 10.90's with last set-up.
P.S
Car is set up for the "Big Shot Plate" from NOS.
Later

Five0 · 12-23-2003, 08:31 AM

Nice, I am hopeing for low 9's on the spray and mid 10's off the spray.

I have mine set up for a 250 shot.

I have the edelbrock performer rpm setup.

420nitro · 12-23-2003, 10:23 AM

I plan on hitting it with a 200 shot and hoping for a solid 9 sec. pass. I know, people say it should be no problem but the cam has a 108 lobe seperation.
So I guess we just see what happens.
Good luck with your combo.

12-14-2003, 11:51 PM	#1
Mean50 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 118	BBK or Hooker Super Comp longtubes? During my switch over to the 351w based engine I was wondering which header would be the best choice. I am considering the Hooker Super Comps or the bbk chrome longtubes. They both have 1 3/4" tubes with 3" collectors, but the Hookers are about $100 more. The BBKs look better, but I was wondering if anyone has used either of these in their swaps and do they fit well? Just by looking at them, the BBKs seem to be the way to go, but I would like some opinions. Thanks! __________________ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, ported 351W heads (2.02-1.60 valves), Victor Jr. intake, 750cfm double pumper, MSD ignition, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, C-4, 3500 stall, 4.10 gears, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light

12-15-2003, 12:30 AM	#2
89fast5oh Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 56	I used the BBK swap long tubes on my stang and they fit great. Easy to install, don't leak and at a reasonable price. Also the Hooker's come black, and you all know what happens to that.....my chrome BBKs barely tarnished in a year of use. BBK is the only exhaust I would every buy again. __________________ 351W .030", AFR 185s, Crane roller cam-.543" 220 -.562" 228@.050, TFS 351W EFI intake, Billet Roller Rockers, BBK Long Tubes, BBK X- Pipe, Dynomax Race Magnums w/dumps, 30lb injectors, 190lph intank pump, Holley Adjustable FPR, 75mm TB&MA, Underdrive pulleys, Aluminum Rad, Billet Flywheel, McCloud Clutch, World Class T-5, B&M Ripper Shifter 4.10s, McCreary G-60s, Lakewood 90/10s, Comp. Enginering 3 way adjust/rear, Upper and Lower Control arms, Autometer gauges.

12-17-2003, 06:36 PM	#3
eeh1025 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 81	Hey there i also have the BBK longtube, they are crome and its weird because they did tarnish and even have a mild rust on them. but they work well __________________ 93 GT 351 to 393 stroker, GT40 upper and lower intake, GT40X Turbo Swirl heads, holley 80mm throttle body, 255 fuel pump, 42 lb injector, JE pistons, Comp cam, comp lifters, comp pushrods, comp springs, crane Roller rockers. Trick flow Crank Shaft, comp Timing chain. MSD 7 series ignition, msd hvc2 coil, MSD timing adjust, MSD Pro billet Dis, Hooker long tube, Off road H pipe 1 chanber race flows, 4.10 gears, Vortech cooler and T-Trim with a 25lb boost AND LOTS MORE.

12-18-2003, 08:28 PM	#4
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	I've got BBK longtubes on my car and they fit like crap. One tube touches the starter. The other side rubs the steering shaft. I had to shim the motor mounts 1/2" to keep the rag joint from hitting one of the tubes. I'll never buy another BBK product again. -Josh, aka the tireburner __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

12-22-2003, 12:09 AM	#5
Five0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: middleburg, fl, usa Posts: 1,134	I had the hooker and the mac long tubes and the hooker headers were much better. IMO Also sounded better. __________________ James Cox RHC Member #44 nochevy@hotmail.com 1991 Mustang LX Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, kooks 1 7/8" race headers, and much more. Engine built by Brent Frazier.

12-22-2003, 01:47 AM	#6
T5superduty Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 114	Ive got some hooker super comps and if your goin for looks go bbk if you want max power go hooker __________________ Gt40 X heads,B-303 Cam, Cobra 1.7 Roller Rockers, Edelbrock Victor water pump, 3 Core Radiator, Edelbrock RPM "Air Gap"intake, Road Demon 625 cfm carb, Hooker Super competition Headers, offroad H pipe, T5

12-22-2003, 08:38 AM	#9
Five0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: middleburg, fl, usa Posts: 1,134	Kooks will be very easy to install because the tubes are all seperate and slide into the collector, they will also make the most power as long as you dont get too big for your combo. They will need to be coated, mine did not come coated and I paid 300 to have them coated. I have over 1000 in mine. For what you are looking for I would go with the hooker headers, They will build more power than the bbk and mac, They did fit better that the mac but I have no experience with the bbk. The hooker sounded a lot better than the mac longtubes did too. __________________ James Cox RHC Member #44 nochevy@hotmail.com 1991 Mustang LX Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, kooks 1 7/8" race headers, and much more. Engine built by Brent Frazier.

12-22-2003, 08:42 AM	#10
Five0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: middleburg, fl, usa Posts: 1,134	List of mods: Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, roller rockers, 7 ½ quart oil pan, 1 7/8” kooks race headers, vic jr. intake, 750 Holley carburetor, MSD distributor, 28oz SFI balancer, 3” dr. gas x-pipe, 3” Mac cat back system, PA super comp c-4 transmission, ultra bell, safety shield, Neal Chance converter 4000 rpm stall, Jacobs wires, 28 oz. flex plate SFI, Aluminum driveshaft, Safety loop, 3.55 gears, auburn pro diff, 31 spline Moser axels, 3 ½” studs, weld rims, sub frames, battle boxes, drag shocks and struts, Hal K-member, aero space pro street brakes, cheetah turbo action shifter, msd digital 6+, msd coil, afco aluminum radiator, electric fan, rear sump tank, aeromotive A-1000 fuel pump, #8 fuel feed #6 return, Mallory FPR, Southside machine upper and lower control arms, 6 point custom roll cage, Carbon fiber tach, Fuel pressure gauge, water temp gauge, nitrous pressure gauge, edelbrock performer rpm nitrous kit, Purge kit, under drive pulleys, extra nitrous bottle, 5 point harness. Engine built by Brent Frazier. __________________ James Cox RHC Member #44 nochevy@hotmail.com 1991 Mustang LX Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, kooks 1 7/8" race headers, and much more. Engine built by Brent Frazier.

12-22-2003, 08:54 PM	#12
Mean50 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 118	Thanks for all the comments. I will let you know which ones I decide to go with! __________________ 89 LX Coupe 306, 10:1 compression, ported 351W heads (2.02-1.60 valves), Victor Jr. intake, 750cfm double pumper, MSD ignition, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, C-4, 3500 stall, 4.10 gears, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light

12-22-2003, 09:30 PM	#13
Five0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: middleburg, fl, usa Posts: 1,134	Hey Mean50 you were right on the money with the kooks fit and more power, And if he were like me and you he would have to have the best. The funny thing about your comment is I was adding up everything I have in my car and I really have spent over 30k on it. Almost depressing, I hope my wife does not read this. She does not know how much I have really spent on this car. She would kill me if she knew. She only knows about 15 to 20k, she would kill me. __________________ James Cox RHC Member #44 nochevy@hotmail.com 1991 Mustang LX Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, kooks 1 7/8" race headers, and much more. Engine built by Brent Frazier.

12-22-2003, 09:34 PM	#14
Five0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: middleburg, fl, usa Posts: 1,134	BTW:Nice car!!!!! What does it run? __________________ James Cox RHC Member #44 nochevy@hotmail.com 1991 Mustang LX Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, kooks 1 7/8" race headers, and much more. Engine built by Brent Frazier.

12-23-2003, 12:00 AM	#16
Five0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: middleburg, fl, usa Posts: 1,134	Haha sorry, It was to you! __________________ James Cox RHC Member #44 nochevy@hotmail.com 1991 Mustang LX Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, kooks 1 7/8" race headers, and much more. Engine built by Brent Frazier.

12-23-2003, 12:05 AM	#17
Five0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: middleburg, fl, usa Posts: 1,134	420 nitro I was refering to your car. I was at a friends house and he has dial up service and I get frustrated with the slow speed and did not take my time to read the post carfully. __________________ James Cox RHC Member #44 nochevy@hotmail.com 1991 Mustang LX Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, kooks 1 7/8" race headers, and much more. Engine built by Brent Frazier.

12-23-2003, 12:19 AM	#18
420nitro Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rockford Posts: 596	Tell me about it....can't live with out broad band! Dail up is pain full! But yea have to agree, got to have the good ****...Got to pay if you want to be the boss As goes for how fast the car is....I havn't made a pass yet....just finished...A couple guys with simlar parts went L-O-W 10's off the spray. If my car runs consistant mid tens off the bottle then I would be happy. Car went 10.90's with last set-up. P.S Car is set up for the "Big Shot Plate" from NOS. Later

12-23-2003, 08:31 AM	#19
Five0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: middleburg, fl, usa Posts: 1,134	Nice, I am hopeing for low 9's on the spray and mid 10's off the spray. I have mine set up for a 250 shot. I have the edelbrock performer rpm setup. __________________ James Cox RHC Member #44 nochevy@hotmail.com 1991 Mustang LX Dart iron eagle block, 4340 28oz 347 crank, 4340 h-beam rods, probe ultra light pistons canfield heads “race ported by Brent Frazier”, solid roller cam and lifters “custom grind”, kooks 1 7/8" race headers, and much more. Engine built by Brent Frazier.

12-23-2003, 10:23 AM	#20
420nitro Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rockford Posts: 596	I plan on hitting it with a 200 shot and hoping for a solid 9 sec. pass. I know, people say it should be no problem but the cam has a 108 lobe seperation. So I guess we just see what happens. Good luck with your combo.

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