What "extra work" to install TFS heads

BigEd · 12-28-2002, 10:10 PM

What "modifications" if any do you have to do to install Trick Flow heads. Aren't they made to bolt up to all your stock accesories? Someone with Trick Flows let me know.

Ron1 · 12-28-2002, 10:59 PM

You may want to write www.trickflow.com but if memory serves me (and this may also have happened because of my cam change) because they are a "twisted wedge" head, I remember having to have my pistons fly cut for adequate clearance.

Ron

jim_howard_pdx · 12-29-2002, 01:10 AM

Trick flows are a cinch to bolt up. I prefer the newer graphite head gaskets, nearly blow proof, but you can also use their O ringed heads if you use nitrous or a blower.

Intake requires an RPM or equivalent, exhaust works best with a 1 5/8 primary header.

My engine makes over 425 hp. I love it. Great off the line torque, plus plenty up top. The midrange is simply killer. Car goes 30-80 mph in under 3 seconds. This really scorches the non blown rice rockets out there.

On a 302, you want to use ARP or equivalent head bolts (fresh) and use silicone on the bolts since 302 head bolts get into the water jackets.

You must use cobra roller rockers or crane gold racing roller rockers.

You must use longer pushrods, or you will break a valve stem. Summit racing will know what you need if you purchase them from them.

Do not use a permaseal intake gaskets. They get sucked into the intake runners. Use the new ultra cool 1250S felpro gaskets. The S is for stiff. They are a hard plastic that does not get sucked in. VERY IMPORTANT. I sucked in 5 sets of intake gaskets waiting for the S to hit production. When the water jacket fails water pours into cylinder one, and the white cloud of smoke is very impressive.......

My heads have been on the car 5 years. I beat new corvettes to 100 mph by nearly 20 car lengths. This is with 325 gears and a C4 automatic. With 4.30 gears I would be late 11's on engine alone.

I did port my heads to the 1262S size gaskets. This puts me 1/4 inch short of 428 cobra jet heads. Stock 428 CJ's ran 11.05 quarter miles in stock brackets and we ran ours at 9.2 with a tunnel ram and 486 gears.

Hope this helps. Call me at 503-443-1502 if you have any other questions.

Jim Howard
jim_howard_pdx@yahoo.com

Coupe50h · 12-29-2002, 02:21 AM

jim, you said to use cobra rockers? well tfs heads require stud mount, the "cobra rockers" i have are pedestal.

I know you can get crane 1.7 stud mounts for tfs heads, but they are'nt considered the "cobra style" rr's

Yes i would notch pistons, since tfs have 2.02 intk valve, clearence becomes a problem, although tfs add claims it's not necessary, i would, to be safe.

BigEd · 12-29-2002, 09:35 PM

thanks for the help guys.

Dark_5.0 · 12-30-2002, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jim_howard_pdx

My heads have been on the car 5 years. I beat new corvettes to 100 mph by nearly 20 car lengths. This is with 325 gears and a C4 automatic. With 4.30 gears I would be late 11's on engine alone.

Jim Howard
jim_howard_pdx@yahoo.com

You are so full of it. You would be lucky to hang with a new vette much less take it by 20 cars to 100mph.

Get a phucking clue do you really think everyone is that dumb. When you lie like that you insult our intelligence and make yourself look dumb.

drudis · 12-30-2002, 02:24 PM

FYI, here is a parts list and LOTS of photos when I did my TFS heads/intake/cam.
See this link:
http://www.dariusrudis.com/mustang/new_engine

XR1stang · 12-30-2002, 02:25 PM

ok in my 94 what I had to do to get the TFS heads on was the following:

I used 1.7 rockers and needed new valve covers. I had ordered the TrickFlow tall covers and a half inch phenolic spacer. TrickFlow told me this would fit. It didn't. My EGR would hit on the back of the passenger side valve cover so I got some FMS chrome valve covers (which were a lot shorter) and cut the baffles out to fit the rockers. I then ran in to a problem with the alternator bumping against the front of the passenger side valve cover. I made a small bracket that spaced the alternator off by about 1/4" and the belt still fits fine. The problems here were the TFS fit the alternator because of the straight up and down of the valve cover. The FMS covers have a slanted front instead of the straight up and down and because of that it "pushes" the lip out a bit further than the TFS ones which is what caused the problem with the alternator. I'll snap some pictures tonight if I get a chance and post them so you can see what I did for the alternator.

Next, I still needed the phenolic spacer to fit the EGR, but because I was using a TFS Street Heat intake I was already running in to hood issues. Fortunately I had thought this one out ahead of time and already had a hood with a 2 1/2" cowl on it so spacing was no problem.

Other than that they were a dream to bolt on, didn't need to fly cut any pistons for it. Only problem was the valve covers in the extremely limited space that the 94/95's provide. As it stands right now I don't have an EGR hooked up and I capped the pipe coming off of the headers for it. I'm not really running in to problems with it, but I would like to have it there to smooth out some of my idle issues I have.

Good luck!

XR1stang

XR1stang · 12-30-2002, 02:32 PM

oh yeah, one thing I forgot, and it is perhaps the most ***IMPORTANT*** part of the TFS install. PLEASE make sure you measure your push rods and put the correct ones in for the TFS heads. If you don't do this then in about 3000-5000 miles you are going to run in to some serious valve train problems. I really can't stress this enough as I have seen entirely too many people put these heads on without checking the push rod lengths first.

Sure, it adds a little bit of money and time to your project, but a little money spent up front saves you a LOT of money down the road.

XR1stang

BigEd · 12-30-2002, 05:56 PM

XR1,Now that sounds like a realistic situation of what normally happens when you modify stuff. Nothing is ever really "bolt on" is it. Thanks for all the good info!

andy669 · 12-30-2002, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigEd
XR1,Now that sounds like a realistic situation of what normally happens when you modify stuff. Nothing is ever really "bolt on" is it. Thanks for all the good info!

XR1 did an excellent job of describing what it takes to put heads on an SN 95. When I put the GT40 X's on my 94 I ran in to the same problems, my solution was a little different.

I used the 87-93 cast valve covers. I had to grind a very small portion of the valve cover to get the alternator to bolt on. I left the EGR on at the time and just ground a flat spot on the bottom of it where it was hitting. I had to grind the the boss on the TB adapter as well. I later removed the EGR and made a block off plate.

You will need new head bolts as the factory ones are torque-to-yield. PV clearance should always be checked, but if you are going to use your stock cam I wouldnt feel bad about letting that pass.

Good Luck
Andy

Andy

Hozer 88GTConv · 12-30-2002, 09:06 PM

Like the previous guys have written...
I love the heads but they need special stuff like:
6.750" Trick Flow push rods #21406750
I used FMS 1.7 Roller Rockers with 'em w/ ARP studs and Fel-Pros.
I installed the b-cam w/1.7's to get the lift of the e-cam but the duration of the b.
Absolutely on the phenolic 1" spacer and FMS tall valve covers with the baffles installed.
So far so good...The throttle body/EGR/valve cover fitment pissed me off but thats really it.
Enjoy...

jim_howard_pdx · 01-01-2003, 05:50 PM

Man that one guy beat me up on beating new corvettes to 100 mph by 20 car lengths. I don't know how often he quarter miles, but I BEAT EVERY NEW CORVETTE including the 400 hp version, and the standard Corvettes by more than 1/2 second with 3.25 gears and a C-4 Automatic.

In 5 years, NOT A SINGLE CORVETTE has come within 10 car lengths of my Mustang. PERIOD--END OF STORY.

Now for the 4.6 Cobras out there, I beat up on you just the same, if not a bit more. Sorry Mod engine guys, your engines just cannot make the torque necessary to get down the quarter quickly.

Now for TFS info, I first bolted these up to a stock '66 289 block, with 479 499 lift 285/295 duration cam. I ran stock length pushrods. After 6 months, I broke a valve stem which seized the engine. My rollers were rolling back and forth across the entire valve tip, instead of rolling just in 1/32 arc as required.

I bolted the heads on to a 351 Windsor next, stock lower end, with a slightly more agressive cam. This car just killed everything on the street. But I cracked a piston and that ended this block.

My current block has the strongest 351 windsor stock rods, trw forged 10/1 pistons, and is balanced and blueprinted. I am now using the Edelbrock RPM 351 windsor Cam 498/519 lift, 295/305 duration cam. I use 1.6 Cobra rollers, 8.6 inch pushrods. Car is running quarter miles in the 12.8's on street tires. With 4.30s and slicks I will be 11.9 or slightly faster.

With a good roller cam, this car could easily run 10's with nitrous. I just like it as a daily driver. The heads are too much fun. I have run 427's, 428's, 351 Cleveland 2v and 4v engines, and lots of 289 302 engines as well. The 351 with TFS heads is just perfect. Great acceleration, great power throughout the rpm band of the cam. Just awesome.

TFS and Summit are great partners. Hook up with them and you will get what you need to run right.

On my heads, without gasket, I had .3 inches clearance on the exhaust valve, and .18 clearance on the intake valve. So when TFS says you need no flycutting up to 500 lift and 300 degrees duration TRUST THEM. They are giving you the real story.

Lots of luck, and to Dark 5.0 I can only tell you the truth. Your car must run 12.8 or faster to beat my mustang, and I have not faced a Corvette yet that can touch me. Maybe when they do, I will go with a 3.9 rear gear and 5 speed Tremec. At 12.1 they will not have any chance at all.

Dark 5.0, they have drugs now for guys like you. You do not have to live in pain and anger.......

Happy new year everyone. Now go kick *** on our competition. SHOW NO MERCY!

Ron1 · 01-01-2003, 06:49 PM

I really think we have a problem here Jim. You are comparing a completely stock Corvette to a highly modified Mustang. The stock specs for the new 400 Horse Vette is 0-60 in 4.6 sec. and the 1/4 mile in 13.22. Rear end gear ratio is either 2.73 or 3.15, so at least there you are almost even. (you still come out ahead). I think what we need to do here is set up a meet at Woodburn. I have a good friend with a highly modified Corvette, cam, heads, exhaust, intake, and the rest. Then at least we can compare apples to apples. I think that would be fair, and his BTW is also a daily driver. And of course the same goes for a 4.6 or 5.0. It should be "mod" to "mod". I also have a good buddy with a 4.6 Cobra, and I know he will be out there next year.

Just voicing an opinion.

Ron

jonnyk · 01-01-2003, 08:50 PM

13.2? Real world performance is more in the zone of 12.6 on street tires in the 405hp ZO6. That is 2 tenths quicker than 12.8 if math serves me correctly...which would make the ZO6 faster than your car, Mr. Howard. They trap around 116 mph too...what does your car pull?

Ron1 · 01-01-2003, 09:08 PM

I stand corrected, I was not looking at the ZO6. I found the specs at the bottom of this page: http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2001/specs.htm
12.6 at 114.

That's pretty quick, and I thought my 86 was quick.

Ron

andy669 · 01-01-2003, 09:14 PM

The day: July 24th 2002
The place: Cordova Dragway
The driver: Me
The car: My friends 2001 Z06, bone stock, street tires. The rings were shot in it, it was a factory buy back car. He got a good deal on it.

The e.t and mph: 12.64@113. My first time so much as sitting in the car. Leaving the line at idle, pedaling it all the way thru 2nd to try and maintain traction. The tires broke loose in 3rd, not just after shifting, but after the rear came back up and the tires unloaded.

I've still got the timeslip somewhere, if I find it I will scan it.

Andy

Ron1 · 01-01-2003, 10:41 PM

You guys do realize that we are praising the merits of a Chevrolet on a Ford Mustang board....

Ron

jonnyk · 01-01-2003, 11:37 PM

Yeah, but not because Chevy is doing anything better...it's just that Ford is doing nothing. There's only 2 2-seater American muscle powered cars....Corvette and Viper. It's for comparison's sake anyways

andy669 · 01-02-2003, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron1
You guys do realize that we are praising the merits of a Chevrolet on a Ford Mustang board....

Ron

Thats ok. Anyone who knows anything knows that the Z06's are F'in fast, and fun as hell to drive. Not everyone respects that, but they should.

Andy

12-28-2002, 10:10 PM	#1
BigEd Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 56	What "extra work" to install TFS heads What "modifications" if any do you have to do to install Trick Flow heads. Aren't they made to bolt up to all your stock accesories? Someone with Trick Flows let me know. __________________ Black 94 GT 5 speed. 10# Procharger, E cam, 2 chamber Flows, 3.73 gears, MAC offroad H pipe, MSD 6AL, SpeedBrain 12.94 @ 104MPH

12-29-2002, 01:10 AM	#3
jim_howard_pdx Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 247	Trick flows are a cinch to bolt up. I prefer the newer graphite head gaskets, nearly blow proof, but you can also use their O ringed heads if you use nitrous or a blower. Intake requires an RPM or equivalent, exhaust works best with a 1 5/8 primary header. My engine makes over 425 hp. I love it. Great off the line torque, plus plenty up top. The midrange is simply killer. Car goes 30-80 mph in under 3 seconds. This really scorches the non blown rice rockets out there. On a 302, you want to use ARP or equivalent head bolts (fresh) and use silicone on the bolts since 302 head bolts get into the water jackets. You must use cobra roller rockers or crane gold racing roller rockers. You must use longer pushrods, or you will break a valve stem. Summit racing will know what you need if you purchase them from them. Do not use a permaseal intake gaskets. They get sucked into the intake runners. Use the new ultra cool 1250S felpro gaskets. The S is for stiff. They are a hard plastic that does not get sucked in. VERY IMPORTANT. I sucked in 5 sets of intake gaskets waiting for the S to hit production. When the water jacket fails water pours into cylinder one, and the white cloud of smoke is very impressive....... My heads have been on the car 5 years. I beat new corvettes to 100 mph by nearly 20 car lengths. This is with 325 gears and a C4 automatic. With 4.30 gears I would be late 11's on engine alone. I did port my heads to the 1262S size gaskets. This puts me 1/4 inch short of 428 cobra jet heads. Stock 428 CJ's ran 11.05 quarter miles in stock brackets and we ran ours at 9.2 with a tunnel ram and 486 gears. Hope this helps. Call me at 503-443-1502 if you have any other questions. Jim Howard jim_howard_pdx@yahoo.com __________________ 1966 Customized for daily street and highway domination. 358 Windsor running 425 HP C-4 Auto and 3.25 Posi

12-29-2002, 02:21 AM	#4
Coupe50h Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 957	jim, you said to use cobra rockers? well tfs heads require stud mount, the "cobra rockers" i have are pedestal. I know you can get crane 1.7 stud mounts for tfs heads, but they are'nt considered the "cobra style" rr's Yes i would notch pistons, since tfs have 2.02 intk valve, clearence becomes a problem, although tfs add claims it's not necessary, i would, to be safe. __________________ X-Texas highway patrol ssp 1990 coupe - exploder Gt-40 iron heads, Explorer intake, 19 lber's. E-cam. crane 1.7 rollers. 190fp. 75mm maf. 65mm tb, tubular subframe connectors, mac cai, Asp crank pulley, T-5, king cobra clutch, flowtech 1-5/8 unequals, mac X-pipe Frpp driveshaft, lakewood Lca's. race weight 3,160 12.69 @ 107.35, 1.71 60' 26x8.5 drag's 3.90 gear 13.20 @ 106.91 - 235/60/15 firestones 2.3 60' 3.27 gear

12-29-2002, 09:35 PM	#5
BigEd Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 56	thanks for the help guys. __________________ Black 94 GT 5 speed. 10# Procharger, E cam, 2 chamber Flows, 3.73 gears, MAC offroad H pipe, MSD 6AL, SpeedBrain 12.94 @ 104MPH

12-30-2002, 02:24 PM	#7
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	FYI, here is a parts list and LOTS of photos when I did my TFS heads/intake/cam. See this link: http://www.dariusrudis.com/mustang/new_engine __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

12-28-2002, 10:59 PM	#2
Ron1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Vancouver, WA USA Posts: 439	You may want to write www.trickflow.com but if memory serves me (and this may also have happened because of my cam change) because they are a "twisted wedge" head, I remember having to have my pistons fly cut for adequate clearance. Ron __________________ 65 Mustang Fastback 347 Stroker, C4 with 4.56 10.68 @ 122 N/A 9.74 @ 137 w/ N2O www.fastspecialties.com

12-30-2002, 02:25 PM	#8
XR1stang Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 205	ok in my 94 what I had to do to get the TFS heads on was the following: I used 1.7 rockers and needed new valve covers. I had ordered the TrickFlow tall covers and a half inch phenolic spacer. TrickFlow told me this would fit. It didn't. My EGR would hit on the back of the passenger side valve cover so I got some FMS chrome valve covers (which were a lot shorter) and cut the baffles out to fit the rockers. I then ran in to a problem with the alternator bumping against the front of the passenger side valve cover. I made a small bracket that spaced the alternator off by about 1/4" and the belt still fits fine. The problems here were the TFS fit the alternator because of the straight up and down of the valve cover. The FMS covers have a slanted front instead of the straight up and down and because of that it "pushes" the lip out a bit further than the TFS ones which is what caused the problem with the alternator. I'll snap some pictures tonight if I get a chance and post them so you can see what I did for the alternator. Next, I still needed the phenolic spacer to fit the EGR, but because I was using a TFS Street Heat intake I was already running in to hood issues. Fortunately I had thought this one out ahead of time and already had a hood with a 2 1/2" cowl on it so spacing was no problem. Other than that they were a dream to bolt on, didn't need to fly cut any pistons for it. Only problem was the valve covers in the extremely limited space that the 94/95's provide. As it stands right now I don't have an EGR hooked up and I capped the pipe coming off of the headers for it. I'm not really running in to problems with it, but I would like to have it there to smooth out some of my idle issues I have. Good luck! XR1stang __________________ I used to hate computers, until the server went down on me...

12-30-2002, 02:32 PM	#9
XR1stang Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 205	oh yeah, one thing I forgot, and it is perhaps the most *IMPORTANT* part of the TFS install. PLEASE make sure you measure your push rods and put the correct ones in for the TFS heads. If you don't do this then in about 3000-5000 miles you are going to run in to some serious valve train problems. I really can't stress this enough as I have seen entirely too many people put these heads on without checking the push rod lengths first. Sure, it adds a little bit of money and time to your project, but a little money spent up front saves you a LOT of money down the road. XR1stang __________________ I used to hate computers, until the server went down on me...

12-30-2002, 05:56 PM	#10
BigEd Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 56	XR1,Now that sounds like a realistic situation of what normally happens when you modify stuff. Nothing is ever really "bolt on" is it. Thanks for all the good info! __________________ Black 94 GT 5 speed. 10# Procharger, E cam, 2 chamber Flows, 3.73 gears, MAC offroad H pipe, MSD 6AL, SpeedBrain 12.94 @ 104MPH

12-30-2002, 09:06 PM	#12
Hozer 88GTConv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 706	TFS Heads... Like the previous guys have written... I love the heads but they need special stuff like: 6.750" Trick Flow push rods #21406750 I used FMS 1.7 Roller Rockers with 'em w/ ARP studs and Fel-Pros. I installed the b-cam w/1.7's to get the lift of the e-cam but the duration of the b. Absolutely on the phenolic 1" spacer and FMS tall valve covers with the baffles installed. So far so good...The throttle body/EGR/valve cover fitment pissed me off but thats really it. Enjoy... __________________ 1988 GT Convertible 331 10:1 TW heads, GT-40 intake, MSD, TRW flattops, B Cam w/ 1.7's, MAC exhaust, 24's, 70 TB, 76 MAF, 3.73's, Pro 5.0, Koni's, Anderson PMS, Wideband 02, yatta, yatta... One week with new motor, two speeding tickets...joy

01-01-2003, 05:50 PM	#13
jim_howard_pdx Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 247	Man that one guy beat me up on beating new corvettes to 100 mph by 20 car lengths. I don't know how often he quarter miles, but I BEAT EVERY NEW CORVETTE including the 400 hp version, and the standard Corvettes by more than 1/2 second with 3.25 gears and a C-4 Automatic. In 5 years, NOT A SINGLE CORVETTE has come within 10 car lengths of my Mustang. PERIOD--END OF STORY. Now for the 4.6 Cobras out there, I beat up on you just the same, if not a bit more. Sorry Mod engine guys, your engines just cannot make the torque necessary to get down the quarter quickly. Now for TFS info, I first bolted these up to a stock '66 289 block, with 479 499 lift 285/295 duration cam. I ran stock length pushrods. After 6 months, I broke a valve stem which seized the engine. My rollers were rolling back and forth across the entire valve tip, instead of rolling just in 1/32 arc as required. I bolted the heads on to a 351 Windsor next, stock lower end, with a slightly more agressive cam. This car just killed everything on the street. But I cracked a piston and that ended this block. My current block has the strongest 351 windsor stock rods, trw forged 10/1 pistons, and is balanced and blueprinted. I am now using the Edelbrock RPM 351 windsor Cam 498/519 lift, 295/305 duration cam. I use 1.6 Cobra rollers, 8.6 inch pushrods. Car is running quarter miles in the 12.8's on street tires. With 4.30s and slicks I will be 11.9 or slightly faster. With a good roller cam, this car could easily run 10's with nitrous. I just like it as a daily driver. The heads are too much fun. I have run 427's, 428's, 351 Cleveland 2v and 4v engines, and lots of 289 302 engines as well. The 351 with TFS heads is just perfect. Great acceleration, great power throughout the rpm band of the cam. Just awesome. TFS and Summit are great partners. Hook up with them and you will get what you need to run right. On my heads, without gasket, I had .3 inches clearance on the exhaust valve, and .18 clearance on the intake valve. So when TFS says you need no flycutting up to 500 lift and 300 degrees duration TRUST THEM. They are giving you the real story. Lots of luck, and to Dark 5.0 I can only tell you the truth. Your car must run 12.8 or faster to beat my mustang, and I have not faced a Corvette yet that can touch me. Maybe when they do, I will go with a 3.9 rear gear and 5 speed Tremec. At 12.1 they will not have any chance at all. Dark 5.0, they have drugs now for guys like you. You do not have to live in pain and anger....... Happy new year everyone. Now go kick *** on our competition. SHOW NO MERCY! __________________ 1966 Customized for daily street and highway domination. 358 Windsor running 425 HP C-4 Auto and 3.25 Posi

01-01-2003, 06:49 PM	#14
Ron1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Vancouver, WA USA Posts: 439	I really think we have a problem here Jim. You are comparing a completely stock Corvette to a highly modified Mustang. The stock specs for the new 400 Horse Vette is 0-60 in 4.6 sec. and the 1/4 mile in 13.22. Rear end gear ratio is either 2.73 or 3.15, so at least there you are almost even. (you still come out ahead). I think what we need to do here is set up a meet at Woodburn. I have a good friend with a highly modified Corvette, cam, heads, exhaust, intake, and the rest. Then at least we can compare apples to apples. I think that would be fair, and his BTW is also a daily driver. And of course the same goes for a 4.6 or 5.0. It should be "mod" to "mod". I also have a good buddy with a 4.6 Cobra, and I know he will be out there next year. Just voicing an opinion. Ron __________________ 65 Mustang Fastback 347 Stroker, C4 with 4.56 10.68 @ 122 N/A 9.74 @ 137 w/ N2O www.fastspecialties.com

01-01-2003, 08:50 PM	#15
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	13.2? Real world performance is more in the zone of 12.6 on street tires in the 405hp ZO6. That is 2 tenths quicker than 12.8 if math serves me correctly...which would make the ZO6 faster than your car, Mr. Howard. They trap around 116 mph too...what does your car pull? __________________ Novi 2000 now spinning off the snout of the 331... Mods Pics

01-01-2003, 09:08 PM	#16
Ron1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Vancouver, WA USA Posts: 439	I stand corrected, I was not looking at the ZO6. I found the specs at the bottom of this page: http://www.corvettemuseum.com/specs/2001/specs.htm 12.6 at 114. That's pretty quick, and I thought my 86 was quick. Ron __________________ 65 Mustang Fastback 347 Stroker, C4 with 4.56 10.68 @ 122 N/A 9.74 @ 137 w/ N2O www.fastspecialties.com

01-01-2003, 09:14 PM	#17
andy669 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Moline Il Posts: 901	The day: July 24th 2002 The place: Cordova Dragway The driver: Me The car: My friends 2001 Z06, bone stock, street tires. The rings were shot in it, it was a factory buy back car. He got a good deal on it. The e.t and mph: 12.64@113. My first time so much as sitting in the car. Leaving the line at idle, pedaling it all the way thru 2nd to try and maintain traction. The tires broke loose in 3rd, not just after shifting, but after the rear came back up and the tires unloaded. I've still got the timeslip somewhere, if I find it I will scan it. Andy __________________ 88 coupe 91 LX NMRA Pure Street 5120

01-01-2003, 10:41 PM	#18
Ron1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Vancouver, WA USA Posts: 439	You guys do realize that we are praising the merits of a Chevrolet on a Ford Mustang board.... Ron __________________ 65 Mustang Fastback 347 Stroker, C4 with 4.56 10.68 @ 122 N/A 9.74 @ 137 w/ N2O www.fastspecialties.com

01-01-2003, 11:37 PM	#19
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	Yeah, but not because Chevy is doing anything better...it's just that Ford is doing nothing. There's only 2 2-seater American muscle powered cars....Corvette and Viper. It's for comparison's sake anyways __________________ Novi 2000 now spinning off the snout of the 331... Mods Pics

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