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07-19-2004, 10:56 PM | #1 |
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Where can I find more power?
I have the following.1-5/8 shortys,mac o/r x pipe,6al,msd coil,8.5mm wires,3:73's,t-5,no ac,no smog,weld draglites,26x10.5et streets,k&n,timing15degr, Now I just took off the stock upper and lower intake,and added a trick flow street upper & lower then replaced the stock throttle body with a bbk70mm and I only gained 2 tenths. Is this to be expected? I was hoping for a little more. Is my stock mass air meter now limiting air flow enough not to notice a gain with the intake swap??thanks...14.20@97
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07-19-2004, 11:51 PM | #2 |
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20 hp isn't a bad gain for the intake and TB, considering your stock heads and MAF are probably the bottleneck. I bet if you add a set of TW or AFR heads and a new MAF you'll gain 10 mph+.
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07-20-2004, 11:07 AM | #4 |
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I'll spend whatever it takes to keep seeing those fart pipe cars in my mirrors. And for now that is not the case..
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07-20-2004, 11:45 AM | #5 |
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Its time for heads and cam.
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07-20-2004, 12:07 PM | #6 |
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You won't pick up a whole lot with just a intake swap because the heads are the real bottle neck.
A set of roller rockers would be my next mod if I was you.
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07-20-2004, 12:24 PM | #7 |
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I am going to put on a new set of afr165's this winter so I'll do the rockers than. So for the most part it looks like I'm stuck for now. I just went to the local junkyard and picked up a electric fan for a taurus, Hopefully I'll get that to workout. I also have to order a cage and put it in if I go.2ths faster being a convert. I hope the heads, cam, rockers,tub k-member w/coilovers,maf,24lbinj, gets me there???? All I have is the fan itself. Can I use the coolant temp sensor from the same 94taurus and somehow get it to work???
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07-20-2004, 12:29 PM | #8 |
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with those heads and the other mods your planning you should be solidly into the 12's
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07-20-2004, 12:40 PM | #9 |
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you must find power in the bottle
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07-20-2004, 02:06 PM | #10 |
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Oh, I forgot about that, Why not, I'll spray it a little too. than maybe I can finally get out of the 14's... Does anyone know about wiring up that taurus fan I have? I just got the fan from the scrap yard $45 and I want it to turn on by itself, what all will I need for it to do that using parts from the local auto store???Thanks...
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07-20-2004, 03:10 PM | #11 | |
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Quote:
http://www.qsl.net/wd4ngb/markviii.htm
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07-20-2004, 03:47 PM | #12 |
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That will work, Perfect thanks alot.
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07-20-2004, 05:36 PM | #13 |
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did you try looking under the bed, or try behind the couch.....
Just kidding
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07-20-2004, 06:18 PM | #14 |
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Put your car on a diet, Dropping a couple hundred pounds is the easiest way to pick up a few tenths.
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07-23-2004, 08:39 AM | #15 |
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upgrade that small mass air sensor and go with at least 24lb injectors maybe 30's with matching mass air sensor and obviously adj. fuel pressure regulator ( bbk) and gauge. that would be my next buy in your setup. heads and cam do wonderss. I used the F-cam and i loved it.. great idle. scares the
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07-23-2004, 10:22 AM | #16 |
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I'm working on choosing a mass air meter. I don't know if I should go with a 73mm or 75-76. I'm using a bbk 70mm tb. Than I'll have to figure out what size injector I need to run.
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07-23-2004, 12:45 PM | #17 |
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well decied well, cause if you get 24lb injectors then your stuck with a matching mass air.. i would do 30lb injectors safe injectors with plenty of mod capability. saves you in the long run.. I made that mistake.
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07-23-2004, 12:58 PM | #18 |
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I posted somewhere else yesterday asking about meters, and I was looking at one that came with a sample tube for 19# and 24#. Is it just a matter of swapping out the tube somehow. I didn't think getting thru this part of the mods was going to take this much thought. But like you say, I want to buy parts once not 4 times to get it right. But I suppose that is the nature of the beast.
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07-23-2004, 01:53 PM | #19 |
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You don't need 24 lb/hr injectors on a stock headed motor and putting 30's on a stock headed N/A motor is just stupid.
Stick with the stock 19's for now until you've got a good heads, cam, intake set up on.
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07-23-2004, 03:02 PM | #20 |
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LIKE I SAID, BUY ONCE NOT MANY TIMES...
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