Mildly Irksome Driveability issue, what do you make of this?

SuperIrish · 05-11-2003, 08:44 PM

I've been fiddling round with a minor problem on the LTD that comes up. I at first thought it was a timing issue but turns out it may not be.
When I was tuning the carb with the O2 sensor I could get it to run at .62 at cruise which is very good for a carb'd car, and was going to check the WOT mixture so I floored and checked the meter. Upon declerating and going back to cruise I found the meter reading .85 at cruise. This is something that has occurred a few times, I'd change timing and it would run good, floor it and then it reverts back to not running quite as good. I was sure it was timing, then perhaps a vacuum leak but now think there is something wrong with the carb. Yesterday I took the carb apart and blew out the circuits put it back together. Fired right up ran perfect, no hesitation, no light stumbling at light throttle. so I floored it and after that it was back to the old way again, light stumble after shifts at part throttle, not real smooth at cruise, almost imperceptible lean miss, and the plugs will be a dark tan. I've set the timing at 6BTDC and plugged vacuum advance line with same results. Timing seems to have no effect on this it appears to be in the carb. The secondaries are closing fully, there is no fuel dripping into any of the carb throats, and the flaots are set right.
It's an '88 HO shortblock, ported DOOE heads, Performer RPM intake, Kaufmann Stage III roller cam, '85 GT distributor, Edelbrock 750 carb, 10BTDC timing, new distributior cap and rotor, wires and plugs are about 6 mos old. If you've got any ideas, suggestions or want more info let me know.

mikew88gt · 05-13-2003, 04:00 PM

Just wondering...I see in your signature that you have a stang "all apart in the garage". Any chance it uses a carb that you could put on the LTD to see if your problem changes?

I don't have any other ideas except to call Edelbrock tech line. My friend had a stumble problem with his Edelbrock 750 that was causing a lot of grief. They told him to drill out a couple of passages to a bigger orifice and it fixed the problem. Good luck. The wagon sounds pretty cool.

SuperIrish · 05-15-2003, 07:36 AM

Thanks Mike,
The mustang is FI. I think I got the waagon taken care of, I over hauled the carb and it works great now.

David

Shaun Barcelow · 05-15-2003, 09:24 AM

Did you find a problem, or was it just in need of a little TLC? I was going to suggest replacing the trottle position senser.

05-11-2003, 08:44 PM	#1
SuperIrish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fort Walton Beach, Floriduh Posts: 10	Mildly Irksome Driveability issue, what do you make of this? I've been fiddling round with a minor problem on the LTD that comes up. I at first thought it was a timing issue but turns out it may not be. When I was tuning the carb with the O2 sensor I could get it to run at .62 at cruise which is very good for a carb'd car, and was going to check the WOT mixture so I floored and checked the meter. Upon declerating and going back to cruise I found the meter reading .85 at cruise. This is something that has occurred a few times, I'd change timing and it would run good, floor it and then it reverts back to not running quite as good. I was sure it was timing, then perhaps a vacuum leak but now think there is something wrong with the carb. Yesterday I took the carb apart and blew out the circuits put it back together. Fired right up ran perfect, no hesitation, no light stumbling at light throttle. so I floored it and after that it was back to the old way again, light stumble after shifts at part throttle, not real smooth at cruise, almost imperceptible lean miss, and the plugs will be a dark tan. I've set the timing at 6BTDC and plugged vacuum advance line with same results. Timing seems to have no effect on this it appears to be in the carb. The secondaries are closing fully, there is no fuel dripping into any of the carb throats, and the flaots are set right. It's an '88 HO shortblock, ported DOOE heads, Performer RPM intake, Kaufmann Stage III roller cam, '85 GT distributor, Edelbrock 750 carb, 10BTDC timing, new distributior cap and rotor, wires and plugs are about 6 mos old. If you've got any ideas, suggestions or want more info let me know. __________________ David Claflin 1990 Red LX, 5.0, EEC Tuner/EEC Analyzer, daily driver 1988 GT, in pieces 1990 Red Harley FXRS, Andrews EV-3 cam, corbin seat, baby apes, other stuff 2003 Eddie Bauer Expedition 5.4L(wifemobile) bone stock and staying that way

05-13-2003, 04:00 PM	#2
mikew88gt Registered Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: New York State Posts: 242	Just wondering...I see in your signature that you have a stang "all apart in the garage". Any chance it uses a carb that you could put on the LTD to see if your problem changes? I don't have any other ideas except to call Edelbrock tech line. My friend had a stumble problem with his Edelbrock 750 that was causing a lot of grief. They told him to drill out a couple of passages to a bigger orifice and it fixed the problem. Good luck. The wagon sounds pretty cool. __________________ Your basic carbed 302 with Edelbrock Performer heads, Performer RPM intake and 650 Speed Demon. My 1988 Mustang GT

05-15-2003, 07:36 AM	#3
SuperIrish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fort Walton Beach, Floriduh Posts: 10	Thanks Mike, The mustang is FI. I think I got the waagon taken care of, I over hauled the carb and it works great now. David __________________ David Claflin 1990 Red LX, 5.0, EEC Tuner/EEC Analyzer, daily driver 1988 GT, in pieces 1990 Red Harley FXRS, Andrews EV-3 cam, corbin seat, baby apes, other stuff 2003 Eddie Bauer Expedition 5.4L(wifemobile) bone stock and staying that way

05-15-2003, 09:24 AM	#4
Shaun Barcelow Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Clarksville, MI, USA Posts: 26	Did you find a problem, or was it just in need of a little TLC? I was going to suggest replacing the trottle position senser. __________________ 1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula...yeah, I know...best 1/4 mile: 14.27