Hidden upgrades

88GT 5pt0 · 10-02-2003, 11:46 PM

I want to do things to my car that can't be seen to make it faster so I can say it's stock. I'm thinking 3.73s, exhaust, cam, but I dunno what else to do. Any ideas?

stang_racer20 · 10-02-2003, 11:50 PM

anything internally, rockers, port your heads,

88GT 5pt0 · 10-02-2003, 11:56 PM

what are some things to do while im changing the cam since i have that much apart?

stang_racer20 · 10-03-2003, 12:01 AM

well your cam isnt gonna do much without a set of good heads and you have to change your lifters with the cam.

Dark_5.0 · 10-03-2003, 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by stang_racer20
well your cam isnt gonna do much without a set of good heads and you have to change your lifters with the cam.

Why would he "have" to change his lifters? Most people dont change there lifters with a cam change on a 5.0 unless they are bad.

Hethj7 · 10-03-2003, 10:30 AM

Gears definitely. If you are wanting a sleeper, get a quiet aftermarket exhaust. Underdrive pulleys would also be good.

You could also extrude hone the intake.

stang_racer20 · 10-03-2003, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
Why would he "have" to change his lifters? Most people dont change there lifters with a cam change on a 5.0 unless they are bad.

Because lifters wear with the cam. If you keep old lifters in with a brand new cam, you can have problems.

QuantumMotorsports · 10-03-2003, 12:02 PM

Roller lifters hardly wear at all. You dont HAVE to change the lifters. You really don't even HAVE to change the lifters on a flat tappet motor. But, it might be a good idea. Roller lifters are expensive man, so I'd use the old ones, unless they're visibly damaged.

rwhite65 · 10-04-2003, 03:51 AM

all the machine work you can think of....gasket matching and so forth....think people would notice if he had a set of aftermarket Iron heads painted the same as the engine? Maybe the gt40's or the like?

Pyromaniac79 · 10-04-2003, 08:40 AM

If you are going to change the cam I would spend a couple of extra bucks on a high flow water pump.

tireburner163 · 10-04-2003, 09:18 AM

your gonna be able to tell it's got a cam when you start it.

gears
control arms
roller rockers
nitrous (hidden)
aluminum heads painted black
GT-40 irons (most people can't tell the difference between them and E7's)
pulleys
shifter

Those are just some suggestions, it depends on how big your budget is

-Josh, aka the tireburner

p.s. Most people don't change their lifters with a roller cam. I didn't

tmoss · 10-07-2003, 09:31 PM

I can port your stock lower intake and give you 15+HP/TQ - paste the link in my signature for more information and dyno results.

USMC302 · 10-08-2003, 10:36 AM

Definately go with the gear, like it was mentioned before, the cam will talk to people through a good exhaust, suspension upgrades would be the best thing also, along with some help with weight reduction, aluminum driveshaft, battery removal kit.

PS. 4.10's IMO

90LxDroptop · 10-08-2003, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stang_racer20
Because lifters wear with the cam. If you keep old lifters in with a brand new cam, you can have problems.

Trueeee babyyyy. And yeah. like someone else said, people will DEFINATLEY notice your car isn't stock if u have a cam. GET GEARRSSSSS. 4.10 if u got an auto and don't drive on the Highway to much. AND match that with a torque converter. That's f'n hot. 3.73's if u got a 5 speed.

88workcar · 10-09-2003, 05:54 AM

Suspention and weight reduction, a good set of tires, ported heads stock cam, ported intake, advanced timing, go down on fuel press., good clutch/ larger converter, long tube headers. short belt, race crank pully, batt in back, ect...

b055 · 10-09-2003, 10:42 AM

paint alum heads same color as the motor.. cover up any names on them.. and use a cobra or explorer intake..

thats what i did.

10-02-2003, 11:46 PM	#1
88GT 5pt0 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 73	Hidden upgrades I want to do things to my car that can't be seen to make it faster so I can say it's stock. I'm thinking 3.73s, exhaust, cam, but I dunno what else to do. Any ideas? __________________ My Cardomain Website

10-02-2003, 11:50 PM	#2
stang_racer20 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 348	anything internally, rockers, port your heads, __________________ 92 Mustang GT, 347 Stroker(Forged Steel Crank/Rods-Balanced, Forged Aluminum Dished Pistons), Trick Flow Track Heat Intake, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge Heads w/ Stage 3 port/polish, 80mm C&L MAF, FMS 30# Inj., BBK AFPR, Trick Flow Stage 2 Cam, Trick Flow 1.6R Rockers, BBK E.L. Headers, Flowmaster Cat-Back, MAC CAI, FMS Pulleys, Griffin Alum. Radiator, MSD Pro-Billet Distributor; AOD, Dynamic 3300 Lockup Converter, B & M Super Cooler, B&M Ratchet Shifter; 3:73 gears.

10-02-2003, 11:56 PM	#3
88GT 5pt0 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 73	what are some things to do while im changing the cam since i have that much apart? __________________ My Cardomain Website

10-03-2003, 12:01 AM	#4
stang_racer20 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 348	well your cam isnt gonna do much without a set of good heads and you have to change your lifters with the cam. __________________ 92 Mustang GT, 347 Stroker(Forged Steel Crank/Rods-Balanced, Forged Aluminum Dished Pistons), Trick Flow Track Heat Intake, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge Heads w/ Stage 3 port/polish, 80mm C&L MAF, FMS 30# Inj., BBK AFPR, Trick Flow Stage 2 Cam, Trick Flow 1.6R Rockers, BBK E.L. Headers, Flowmaster Cat-Back, MAC CAI, FMS Pulleys, Griffin Alum. Radiator, MSD Pro-Billet Distributor; AOD, Dynamic 3300 Lockup Converter, B & M Super Cooler, B&M Ratchet Shifter; 3:73 gears.

10-03-2003, 10:30 AM	#6
Hethj7 Mizzou Tigers Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: weston, MO United States Posts: 1,455	Gears definitely. If you are wanting a sleeper, get a quiet aftermarket exhaust. Underdrive pulleys would also be good. You could also extrude hone the intake. __________________ 2006 Mustang GT 1990 LX GT-40 motor 262 horsepower, 307ft-lbs (sold but forever loved) 1998 Contour SVT Rice Haters Club Member #244

10-03-2003, 12:02 PM	#8
QuantumMotorsports Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, USA Posts: 597	Roller lifters hardly wear at all. You dont HAVE to change the lifters. You really don't even HAVE to change the lifters on a flat tappet motor. But, it might be a good idea. Roller lifters are expensive man, so I'd use the old ones, unless they're visibly damaged. __________________ Michael Black QuantumMotorsports Norman, OK 1984 LX Hatch 306 w/ TRW forged flat toppers, Comp Cams Magnum 292H, GT40P heads w/ 3 angle valve job, .550 lift springs, Angus Racing Roller Rockers, Weiand Stealth Intake, Holley 4150 650cfm carb, MAC 1 5/8 Long Tubes, Single Chamber Flowmasters, 91' T5 w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, Turbo Coupe 8.8 Rear w/ 3.55 gears, QA1 Motorsports tubular K member, no interior except steering wheel and seat. Coming soon: 6 or 8 point cage, Fuel Cell, Weld Draglites

10-04-2003, 03:51 AM	#9
rwhite65 Ride Hard Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wyoming IL Posts: 1,094	upgrades all the machine work you can think of....gasket matching and so forth....think people would notice if he had a set of aftermarket Iron heads painted the same as the engine? Maybe the gt40's or the like? __________________ 65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc 04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition 79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored

10-04-2003, 08:40 AM	#10
Pyromaniac79 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Enterprise, AL Posts: 26	If you are going to change the cam I would spend a couple of extra bucks on a high flow water pump.

10-04-2003, 09:18 AM	#11
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	your gonna be able to tell it's got a cam when you start it. gears control arms roller rockers nitrous (hidden) aluminum heads painted black GT-40 irons (most people can't tell the difference between them and E7's) pulleys shifter Those are just some suggestions, it depends on how big your budget is -Josh, aka the tireburner p.s. Most people don't change their lifters with a roller cam. I didn't __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

10-07-2003, 09:31 PM	#12
tmoss Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Saint Louis, MO Posts: 634	I can port your stock lower intake and give you 15+HP/TQ - paste the link in my signature for more information and dyno results. __________________ Tom (Torque) Moss 88Gt 5spd Vert, FLowmaster Catbacks, stock cam advanced 4° @ 108.5° ICL, NMRA prepped GT40P heads 1.85/1.55 valves and 1.7 rockers, MAC P headers Jet-Hot coated, 97 Exlporer intake (ported lower), TB and injectors. 277RWHP/330RWTQ (SAE). http://www.fastlanecars.com/

10-08-2003, 10:36 AM	#13
USMC302 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Gallatin, Tn Posts: 1,326	Definately go with the gear, like it was mentioned before, the cam will talk to people through a good exhaust, suspension upgrades would be the best thing also, along with some help with weight reduction, aluminum driveshaft, battery removal kit. PS. 4.10's IMO __________________

10-09-2003, 05:54 AM	#15
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Suspention and weight reduction, a good set of tires, ported heads stock cam, ported intake, advanced timing, go down on fuel press., good clutch/ larger converter, long tube headers. short belt, race crank pully, batt in back, ect... __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

10-09-2003, 10:42 AM	#16
b055 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: philadelphia ms Posts: 180	paint alum heads same color as the motor.. cover up any names on them.. and use a cobra or explorer intake.. thats what i did. __________________ i got mustangs. do u?

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