Carb Drivers Please Help

5.0L_Of_Fury · 12-21-2002, 03:54 PM

ok I found out I am going to be needing a motor soon...and I want to go carbed...just wondering if this combo sounds very daily driveable to you....302 bored .30 or .60 (havent decided yet) weiand alum. intake, holley 650, E cam, GT40's and a custom pan to fit my hood scoop?(I have a 4" cobra RR with SVO scoop hood) and a 3k stall.... probly just going to use a brain box typ set up will I get the cash for a MSD

84LX89GT · 12-21-2002, 07:02 PM

That sounds like a pretty good power making combo, but i don't know about that high stall converter for daily driving....gas mileage would be horrible. What kind of transmission will it have? If it's a C4, i'd reconsider the 3,000 stall for driving everyday. If you have an AOD you might be alright if it's a lockup converter.

There's no doubt that it'll haul though.

5.0L_Of_Fury · 12-21-2002, 10:03 PM

I am running an AOD with Art Carr components....whats the smallest stall you can buy? and what kind of mileage am I looking at here?

86GT · 12-22-2002, 02:13 AM

650 Holley, Edelbrock RPM Air-Gap, and the heads and cam of your choice. You'll never regret that intake, that's for sure. Its a wonderful piece that's great for daily driving, and definitely at home at the strip too.

PKRWUD · 12-22-2002, 05:57 AM

Don't go .060" over unless you absolutely have to.

5.0L_Of_Fury · 12-22-2002, 10:44 PM

I am still up in the air about intakes...but I am definately going .030 over 650 Holley...E Cam and GT40 heads...but I am looking at different stalls..what kind of numbers should I expect? gonne thorw some 3.55's in the rear and I speak 1/8mile

RoadWarrior · 12-23-2002, 01:37 PM

3000 stall shouldnt be That bad on the street. Basically just do what YOU want. if you want to turn some great numbers on the street then go for it. From the sounds of it your combo would like the 3000 stall. And id have to agree on the Performer RPM Air Gap. I got one and i love it. Over the summer the car is daily driven and ive never had a problem with it. I just have to get some money so i can replace my edelbrock 600 with a 650 DP.

Ron1 · 12-23-2002, 08:06 PM

Your stall should be determined after you know where the motor will make peak torque. What ever the stall is that you pick, with enough power, at the track the converter will flash to that point anyway. 2500 to 3K should be OK for your application. Since you speak 1/8 mile and have an AOD why not go 3.73's or even 4.11's?
Should be OK with the AOD. Maybe someone here can calculate what RPM it would be spinning at freeway speeds.

Ron

84LX89GT · 12-24-2002, 03:07 AM

If you have an aod, a 3,000 stall would probably be acceptable although don't expect to get 20mpg from the thing, i personally would rather have the power than the mileage. A stock stall i believe is rated from 1800 to 2200 rpm, i think most after market companies make stalls around the areas of 2500rpm, 3000rpm etc. in certain ranges (stalls depend on hp/load).

83tcoupe · 12-26-2002, 09:39 PM

i run a 302 rpm air gap (great Intake) aod 3000 stall 4.30 gears 28*10.5 et streets and drive every day to work in the summer and still cruise at 70-75 on e-way to the track takes about 1/2 hr to get to track burns a little over 1/8 tank of gas.

12-21-2002, 03:54 PM	#1
5.0L_Of_Fury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mayfield,KY,USA Posts: 288	Carb Drivers Please Help ok I found out I am going to be needing a motor soon...and I want to go carbed...just wondering if this combo sounds very daily driveable to you....302 bored .30 or .60 (havent decided yet) weiand alum. intake, holley 650, E cam, GT40's and a custom pan to fit my hood scoop?(I have a 4" cobra RR with SVO scoop hood) and a 3k stall.... probly just going to use a brain box typ set up will I get the cash for a MSD __________________ OLD NAME:4cyl_Of_Fury 1990 LX 5.0 Hatchback K&N,March Ram Air,Strut Tower Brace '93LX Hatchback !FOR SALE No Substitute For Cubic Inches! BURN EM UP fivepointzero@kytnar.org "Give 'Er Hell" "They Call It Minute Rice..Gee Are Those Actually Track Times?" Firemen: We Find 'Em Hot And Leave 'Em Wet" Rice Haters Club Member #23 (GM Ricer Fads) Gotta Love Hatin 'Em CLUTCHES,FUEL PUMP RELAYS,FOUR CYLINDERS

12-21-2002, 07:02 PM	#2
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	That sounds like a pretty good power making combo, but i don't know about that high stall converter for daily driving....gas mileage would be horrible. What kind of transmission will it have? If it's a C4, i'd reconsider the 3,000 stall for driving everyday. If you have an AOD you might be alright if it's a lockup converter. There's no doubt that it'll haul though. __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

12-21-2002, 10:03 PM	#3
5.0L_Of_Fury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mayfield,KY,USA Posts: 288	I am running an AOD with Art Carr components....whats the smallest stall you can buy? and what kind of mileage am I looking at here? __________________ OLD NAME:4cyl_Of_Fury 1990 LX 5.0 Hatchback K&N,March Ram Air,Strut Tower Brace '93LX Hatchback !FOR SALE No Substitute For Cubic Inches! BURN EM UP fivepointzero@kytnar.org "Give 'Er Hell" "They Call It Minute Rice..Gee Are Those Actually Track Times?" Firemen: We Find 'Em Hot And Leave 'Em Wet" Rice Haters Club Member #23 (GM Ricer Fads) Gotta Love Hatin 'Em CLUTCHES,FUEL PUMP RELAYS,FOUR CYLINDERS

12-22-2002, 02:13 AM	#4
86GT Sniffed too much n20 Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Ont, Canada Posts: 1,018	650 Holley, Edelbrock RPM Air-Gap, and the heads and cam of your choice. You'll never regret that intake, that's for sure. Its a wonderful piece that's great for daily driving, and definitely at home at the strip too. __________________ 2002 Windsor Weekend Q16 Qualifier

12-22-2002, 05:57 AM	#5
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Don't go .060" over unless you absolutely have to. __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

12-22-2002, 10:44 PM	#6
5.0L_Of_Fury Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mayfield,KY,USA Posts: 288	I am still up in the air about intakes...but I am definately going .030 over 650 Holley...E Cam and GT40 heads...but I am looking at different stalls..what kind of numbers should I expect? gonne thorw some 3.55's in the rear and I speak 1/8mile __________________ OLD NAME:4cyl_Of_Fury 1990 LX 5.0 Hatchback K&N,March Ram Air,Strut Tower Brace '93LX Hatchback !FOR SALE No Substitute For Cubic Inches! BURN EM UP fivepointzero@kytnar.org "Give 'Er Hell" "They Call It Minute Rice..Gee Are Those Actually Track Times?" Firemen: We Find 'Em Hot And Leave 'Em Wet" Rice Haters Club Member #23 (GM Ricer Fads) Gotta Love Hatin 'Em CLUTCHES,FUEL PUMP RELAYS,FOUR CYLINDERS

12-23-2002, 01:37 PM	#7
RoadWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Edmonton,Alberta,Canada Posts: 317	3000 stall shouldnt be That bad on the street. Basically just do what YOU want. if you want to turn some great numbers on the street then go for it. From the sounds of it your combo would like the 3000 stall. And id have to agree on the Performer RPM Air Gap. I got one and i love it. Over the summer the car is daily driven and ive never had a problem with it. I just have to get some money so i can replace my edelbrock 600 with a 650 DP. __________________ Fast Company

12-23-2002, 08:06 PM	#8
Ron1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Vancouver, WA USA Posts: 439	Your stall should be determined after you know where the motor will make peak torque. What ever the stall is that you pick, with enough power, at the track the converter will flash to that point anyway. 2500 to 3K should be OK for your application. Since you speak 1/8 mile and have an AOD why not go 3.73's or even 4.11's? Should be OK with the AOD. Maybe someone here can calculate what RPM it would be spinning at freeway speeds. Ron __________________ 65 Mustang Fastback 347 Stroker, C4 with 4.56 10.68 @ 122 N/A 9.74 @ 137 w/ N2O www.fastspecialties.com

12-24-2002, 03:07 AM	#9
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	If you have an aod, a 3,000 stall would probably be acceptable although don't expect to get 20mpg from the thing, i personally would rather have the power than the mileage. A stock stall i believe is rated from 1800 to 2200 rpm, i think most after market companies make stalls around the areas of 2500rpm, 3000rpm etc. in certain ranges (stalls depend on hp/load). __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

12-26-2002, 09:39 PM	#10
83tcoupe Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 3	aod i run a 302 rpm air gap (great Intake) aod 3000 stall 4.30 gears 28*10.5 et streets and drive every day to work in the summer and still cruise at 70-75 on e-way to the track takes about 1/2 hr to get to track burns a little over 1/8 tank of gas.

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