Question about Mass air

88GT 5pt0 · 07-29-2003, 08:01 PM

I have an 88 5.0 so it doesnt have a mass air sensor. I want to buy a cold air. Is it worth it to get the mass air and what would I need to do to install it?

Nixon1 · 07-29-2003, 08:21 PM

You dont need a mass air car to use a CAI. It will work just fine, unless you can't find a kit made for a Speed Density instead of an MAF car..but there should be one. MAF conversion isnt simple. You'd need not only a new MAF and connector but probably a wiring harness to accept it, not to mention a new computer from an MAF car. Royal pain in the ----....sure it'd be a good modification to do down the road if you plan to really soup the thing up, since the more power you put out, the more inaccurate the data charts that the comp. uses for Speed Density calculations are....

Mustang_289 · 07-29-2003, 08:33 PM

We tried putting on a K&N cononical high flow filter on our 88GT with speed density. The car idled like crap, I was told the speed density couldn't compensate for the addiitonal air flow. We took it off and put a stock filter back on and it idled fine.

There's others on this board that've been very successful with tuning speed density. We're planning on upgrading to MAF with a Ford Racing upgrade kit according to the research we've done - you simply have to touch one wire on your existing harness, have to swap out your EEC, add the MAF meter, new throttle body and you're good to go - hopefully.

Nixon1 · 07-29-2003, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Mustang_289
We tried putting on a K&N cononical high flow filter on our 88GT with speed density. The car idled like crap, I was told the speed density couldn't compensate for the addiitonal air flow. We took it off and put a stock filter back on and it idled fine.

Sounds like something was wrong with the Manifold Pressure sensor possibly....SD cars, from what I've seen, have a very good ability to adapt themselves..it's just in extreme instances, like supercharging, or high hp cars, where they can't keep up.

canukracer · 07-29-2003, 09:13 PM

my 86 gt works great with the cononical filter, for the past 3years no problems with the idle.

Dark_5.0 · 07-30-2003, 08:30 AM

Check out my sig.

Speed density rocks

drtbiker · 07-30-2003, 11:07 AM

yeah i had sd for a while and never had a problem i had a idle surge that started when i threw on the 70mm tb but other than that it was fine, i ran the b303 and everything else in my sig except for 24lbinjectors, cai is no problem for sd car. But it really isnt worth the money, I see ur in chicago where at? I may be parting my car out soon, so there may be a lot of parts going for cheap.... lata

88GT 5pt0 · 07-30-2003, 02:01 PM

Yeah I just wanted to know if its worth it to do it now and just buy the CAI with a MAF or wait till I do more mods.

I from the south suburbs, orland park and tinley park area

07-29-2003, 08:01 PM	#1
88GT 5pt0 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 73	Question about Mass air I have an 88 5.0 so it doesnt have a mass air sensor. I want to buy a cold air. Is it worth it to get the mass air and what would I need to do to install it? __________________ My Cardomain Website

07-29-2003, 08:21 PM	#2
Nixon1 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 432	You dont need a mass air car to use a CAI. It will work just fine, unless you can't find a kit made for a Speed Density instead of an MAF car..but there should be one. MAF conversion isnt simple. You'd need not only a new MAF and connector but probably a wiring harness to accept it, not to mention a new computer from an MAF car. Royal pain in the ----....sure it'd be a good modification to do down the road if you plan to really soup the thing up, since the more power you put out, the more inaccurate the data charts that the comp. uses for Speed Density calculations are.... __________________ '91 Mustang GT 5.0 AOD Daily Driver Current stats: NEW 302 short block, E-303 cam (@.050, 220/220, .498/.498, 110 degrees), 1.6 roller rockers, Performer RPM heads (aluminum, 1.9/1.6, 60cc chambers), Cobra intake, Granatelli 75mm MAF, Billet AFPR, Equal-Length Shorty Headers, Off-Road X Pipe, Flowmasters, 4.10 POSI 13.73 at 103.8, ~2.2 60'

07-30-2003, 08:30 AM	#6
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Check out my sig. Speed density rocks __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

07-30-2003, 11:07 AM	#7
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	yeah i had sd for a while and never had a problem i had a idle surge that started when i threw on the 70mm tb but other than that it was fine, i ran the b303 and everything else in my sig except for 24lbinjectors, cai is no problem for sd car. But it really isnt worth the money, I see ur in chicago where at? I may be parting my car out soon, so there may be a lot of parts going for cheap.... lata __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

07-30-2003, 02:01 PM	#8
88GT 5pt0 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 73	Yeah I just wanted to know if its worth it to do it now and just buy the CAI with a MAF or wait till I do more mods. I from the south suburbs, orland park and tinley park area __________________ My Cardomain Website

07-29-2003, 08:33 PM	#3
Mustang_289 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 512	We tried putting on a K&N cononical high flow filter on our 88GT with speed density. The car idled like crap, I was told the speed density couldn't compensate for the addiitonal air flow. We took it off and put a stock filter back on and it idled fine. There's others on this board that've been very successful with tuning speed density. We're planning on upgrading to MAF with a Ford Racing upgrade kit according to the research we've done - you simply have to touch one wire on your existing harness, have to swap out your EEC, add the MAF meter, new throttle body and you're good to go - hopefully.

07-29-2003, 09:13 PM	#5
canukracer Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: alberta canada Posts: 108	my 86 gt works great with the cononical filter, for the past 3years no problems with the idle.

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