Ls1 in a Mustang???

Fostang · 11-16-2001, 08:40 PM

I know you guys will probably mock me for even bringing this up. I'm sorry but I just had to do it. This all started this monday when I went over to a friends house and after some chit chat. He told me his neighbor has something that might interst me. So we go over and sitting in his garage is an Ls1 engine out of a camaro. It includes the wiring harness and computer. It was pulled out of the car at around 15 k miles. He was going to use it for an el camino but decided to use a tune port type engine for some reason. From that day I just got the crazy idea of installing that engine in a mustang. What do you think guys will it work? Also what type of transmission should I get? I want it to have overdrive so I was thinking the 700R4.

Or maybe the T-56. Before I think of other things I want to make sure it can be done. As far as the engine clearing everything. sorry for rambling just that it would be intersting and at the same time funny to see an Ls1 equiped mustang.

jimberg · 11-16-2001, 09:20 PM

Setting aside all the problems of trying to make it fit and the substandard quality of GM products, how much would he charge you for the engine?

Unit 5302 · 11-17-2001, 12:05 AM

You can make anything work. The question would be... why? A DOHC Cobra engine in a fox would be cooler IMHO. I just don't like it much when people cross lines putting a different manufacturers engine into a car.

I'm not a fan of the LS-1, period. So that's probably part of it, but to each his own...

On a side note, you'll shread a 700R4 with an LS-1.

Mach 1 · 11-17-2001, 02:04 AM

Have you completly lost your mind?

Drop a 351 windsor in there, and take that LS1 to where it belongs, the nearest junk yard!

bosco · 11-17-2001, 02:53 AM

if its a good enough deal, buy it.......then sell it on e-bay or something and buy a nice cobra motor like unit suggested or a 302, or 351 like mach 1 suggests.

zepherman · 11-17-2001, 02:56 AM

If nothing else, when it was done you might have a little trouble finding people to hang yout with. The Ford guys wont like ya because you have an LS1 in it and the chevy guys wouldnt like ya because u put it in a mustang. Now the only people that would leave you with is the neutral Slowpar people, and you dont want to go there.

Kidding aside, it would probably be more trouble than it would be worth. The only thing that you would have going for the car is the novelty of the idea, and I dont think thats what your looking for.

Coupe5oh · 11-17-2001, 03:18 AM

Yea, uhhh, i couldnt beleive this topic when i read it, your joking right??

ok, seriously, you wouldnt get any support from stangers for having a chevy in a stang, and the gm guys would ragg you for having it in a stang.

so if you could get the motor for a good deal, and if you wouldnt mind holding it, my plan would be to get an old 6 banger f-bod, and drop that sucker in there, leave the rs emblems on, and make a sleeper...just an idea, those v6 slowmaros arent to expensive these days.

zepherman · 11-17-2001, 03:21 AM

The RS on those old camaros stands for Real Slow right????

Coupe5oh · 11-17-2001, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zepherman
The RS on those old camaros stands for Real Slow right????

hehe, yea, but with an ls1 in it, it wouldnt be "real slow"

SS- "super slow" j/k

PKRWUD · 11-17-2001, 06:13 AM

I'd look around for a Vega to drop it in. Butt ugly cars, but lightning fast with any V8, let alone an LS1. Could be fun.

Take care,
-Chris

jimberg · 11-17-2001, 10:34 AM

It would be a fun engine to put in a hot rod kit car.

Fostang · 11-18-2001, 01:57 AM

It was a flame question I know but for a grand on a complete engine with harness and computer it was worth a shot. I was at first thinking on a hot rod but with the 67 coupe project going on I'm putting the left over cash into it. Maybe I should go ahead and get it and hold it for a while until I either sell or finish the coupe. I have always wanted to build a 34 coupe so maybe there just might be one in my future. That camaro idea wasn't bad might go that way. Now i'm cluttered with ideas. Time to sit back and think (what I should have done before).

So that is what RS and SS stands for. he he heee

Mach 1 · 11-18-2001, 12:01 PM

forget it, you have enough projects going on already. No reason to clutter up the garage with that GM garbage the way I see it.

Im sure you can find a better use for that $1000.00.

If not, send it to me, and ill put it towards my blower fund..

1BAD89 · 11-19-2001, 01:11 AM

***Setting aside all the problems of trying to make it fit and the substandard quality of GM products, how much would he charge you for the engine?

Blah, blah, blah....

***You can make anything work. The question would be... why? A DOHC Cobra engine in a fox would be cooler IMHO. I just don't like it much when people cross lines putting a different manufacturers engine into a car.

***I'm not a fan of the LS-1, period. So that's probably part of it, but to each his own...

***On a side note, you'll shread a 700R4 with an LS-1.

The reason would probaly be because he can pick it up cheap. And it would run probaly low 12's with the stock "LS1". Who cares if people would like you for doing it, or "hang with you"? You'd be kicking ther A$$'s around. And you would have a kicka$$ Hybrid, best of both worlds. You have the lightness of the Fox body, and the power of the LS1. Perfect. I have also thought about doing this, I have a 4 cylinder coupe that is just waiting on an engine swap. If you built the 700R4 right, it would hold up no problem to the LS1 engine. These "diehard" Ford guys, or whatever you want to call them....aren't going to give you any help at all. So I wouldn't bother asking them, most of them are all simple one-minded thinkers anyway. But that is their choice to be like that. Yes I know Blah, blah, it's a mustang site...blah, blah, let me have it if want, it won't bother me any. I'm just voicing my opinion. ;o) $1000 for the engine and wiring harness is CHEAP, I'd pick that up in a second especially if it only had 15k on it. The swap would probaly take a while, but OHHHHHHHH....would it be worth it when you popped the hood!

Coupe5oh · 11-19-2001, 01:19 AM

Umm, low 12's in a fox just because it has an ls1? i doubt it, the fox gt isnt that much lighter than a 93-02 f-bod, well let me rephrase that, since the foxbody is such a badazz chassis

, it probaly would run low 12's with 300 hp at the wheels.

"The best of both worlds", please 1bad89, your opinions suck! its a ******* gm motor, that sh1t should be illegal!! i dont care if it had 800hp stock!

1BAD89 · 11-19-2001, 01:37 AM

***Umm, low 12's in a fox just because it has an ls1? i doubt it, the fox gt isnt that much lighter than a 93-02 f-bod, well let me rephrase that, since the foxbody is such a badazz chassis, it probaly would run low 12's with 300 hp at the wheels.

***"The best of both worlds", please 1bad89, your opinions suck! its a ******* gm motor, that sh1t should be illegal!! i dont care if it had 800hp stock!

Yeah they are not much lighter only like 700+lbs. LOL (depends on what options, and what car, but that is a pretty close guess-timate I think) Ok you are contradicting yourself there bud, which one is it? low 12's or not?

Yup they should make GM motors illegal! That would just be awesome huh? LoL. 800hp stock in any type of vehicle would surely get my attention, and quickly get my approval more than likely. Yeah that really showed your intelligence when you said "1bad89 your opinions suck!", couldn't I then say you opinion sucks also? I mean what is the point in that? M-a-t-u-r-i-t-y, you might want to learn that someday.

Coupe5oh · 11-19-2001, 03:45 AM

Nono, what i said is putting a gm motor in a ford chassis should be illegal", and how do you get a 700 lb difference? the 87-93 gt's were around 3400 right? what is an f-bod, about 3600? shows your inteligence.

the vega idea is good, and chevys are just as cool to build, or race or whatever, im not dogging gm's, I just think cross breeding these isnt right, i guess it wouldnt be so bad if it was strictly a racecar, but the thought of that makes me sick. with ls1 power in a lighter coupe, maybe mid 12's, i just dont see 300 rwhp in a stang going low 12's, so take your "lol's" "M-a-t-u-r-i-t-y" and "guesstimates" another place, a$$!

Mach 1 · 11-19-2001, 04:04 AM

Us Ford guys prefer full bred. we leave the mutts to you GM lovers. That shows our passion and brand loyalty for the hobby is stronger, nothing wrong with that.

Coupe5oh · 11-19-2001, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mach 1
Us Ford guys prefer full bred. we leave the mutts to you GM lovers. That shows our passion and brand loyalty for the hobby is stronger, nothing wrong with that.

Right on my friend, and putting a chevy motor in a 34 coupe, or t-bucket might not be so bad, but stangs....nooo.

my dad was gonna buy a 46 ford, with suicide doors, it had a chevy 327, i had no complaints back then, but im sure glad he didnt buy it.

Skyman · 11-19-2001, 03:54 PM

Theres just something a little weird about cross-breds like that. I say if you want to do it though go for it. The price on the engine is CHEAP. I would pick it up and look into putting it into a 67-69 camaro, or some chevy chassis like that. That would be an awesome setup.

No reason why 300rwhp in a foxbody won't go mid-low 12's.

Skyler

11-16-2001, 08:40 PM	#1
Fostang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Stockton, Ca Posts: 599	Ls1 in a Mustang??? I know you guys will probably mock me for even bringing this up. I'm sorry but I just had to do it. This all started this monday when I went over to a friends house and after some chit chat. He told me his neighbor has something that might interst me. So we go over and sitting in his garage is an Ls1 engine out of a camaro. It includes the wiring harness and computer. It was pulled out of the car at around 15 k miles. He was going to use it for an el camino but decided to use a tune port type engine for some reason. From that day I just got the crazy idea of installing that engine in a mustang. What do you think guys will it work? Also what type of transmission should I get? I want it to have overdrive so I was thinking the 700R4. Or maybe the T-56. Before I think of other things I want to make sure it can be done. As far as the engine clearing everything. sorry for rambling just that it would be intersting and at the same time funny to see an Ls1 equiped mustang. __________________ 67' Fastback-Supercharged 4.6 DOHC Cobra, T-56, 8.8 more to come. 67' Coupe-EFI, AOD, 8.8 90 Gt-Supercharged,MAF,TB,1.7's ripper, bassani x, 3.55's, 01' cobras, headers. 89'GT-Supercharged,Heads,Cam,Intake,TB,MAF,power pipe,headers,offroad exhaust,black bullits.

11-16-2001, 09:20 PM	#2
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	Setting aside all the problems of trying to make it fit and the substandard quality of GM products, how much would he charge you for the engine? __________________ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

11-17-2001, 02:04 AM	#4
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Have you completly lost your mind? Drop a 351 windsor in there, and take that LS1 to where it belongs, the nearest junk yard! __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

11-17-2001, 02:53 AM	#5
bosco Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: austin TX Posts: 115	if its a good enough deal, buy it.......then sell it on e-bay or something and buy a nice cobra motor like unit suggested or a 302, or 351 like mach 1 suggests. __________________ '87 coupe, 308, world product windsor jr. heads, comp cams 220@.050/.512 @110 deg., roller cam,crane full roller rockers, 4bbl 600cfm holly carb,1 inch spacer, wiend aluminum intake, pullies, msd distributer/ignition, 1 5/8 bbk shorties, off road h-pipe 2 chamber flows, 3.73 posi rear end, P.S.T control arms, steeda tri-ax shifter, t-5, auto meter guages, and more to come (hopefully )

11-17-2001, 02:56 AM	#6
zepherman Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Oklahoma City OK USA Posts: 236	If nothing else, when it was done you might have a little trouble finding people to hang yout with. The Ford guys wont like ya because you have an LS1 in it and the chevy guys wouldnt like ya because u put it in a mustang. Now the only people that would leave you with is the neutral Slowpar people, and you dont want to go there. Kidding aside, it would probably be more trouble than it would be worth. The only thing that you would have going for the car is the novelty of the idea, and I dont think thats what your looking for. __________________ 90 GT 25th Anni. Did the AOD to T-5 swap, SPEC clutch, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, BBK 2½ inch off-road H pipe, Flows, BBK 70mm TB/EGR, Ford Racing aluminim driveshaft, 3.55's, welded subframes, Ram Air, 3 core radiator, NOS dry kit 75 shot, and a K&N filter. 12.9 @ 108

11-17-2001, 12:05 AM	#3
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	You can make anything work. The question would be... why? A DOHC Cobra engine in a fox would be cooler IMHO. I just don't like it much when people cross lines putting a different manufacturers engine into a car. I'm not a fan of the LS-1, period. So that's probably part of it, but to each his own... On a side note, you'll shread a 700R4 with an LS-1.

11-17-2001, 03:18 AM	#7
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	Yea, uhhh, i couldnt beleive this topic when i read it, your joking right?? ok, seriously, you wouldnt get any support from stangers for having a chevy in a stang, and the gm guys would ragg you for having it in a stang. so if you could get the motor for a good deal, and if you wouldnt mind holding it, my plan would be to get an old 6 banger f-bod, and drop that sucker in there, leave the rs emblems on, and make a sleeper...just an idea, those v6 slowmaros arent to expensive these days. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

11-17-2001, 03:21 AM	#8
zepherman Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Oklahoma City OK USA Posts: 236	The RS on those old camaros stands for Real Slow right???? __________________ 90 GT 25th Anni. Did the AOD to T-5 swap, SPEC clutch, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, BBK 2½ inch off-road H pipe, Flows, BBK 70mm TB/EGR, Ford Racing aluminim driveshaft, 3.55's, welded subframes, Ram Air, 3 core radiator, NOS dry kit 75 shot, and a K&N filter. 12.9 @ 108

11-17-2001, 06:13 AM	#10
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	I'd look around for a Vega to drop it in. Butt ugly cars, but lightning fast with any V8, let alone an LS1. Could be fun. Take care, -Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

11-17-2001, 10:34 AM	#11
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	It would be a fun engine to put in a hot rod kit car. __________________ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

11-18-2001, 01:57 AM	#12
Fostang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Stockton, Ca Posts: 599	It was a flame question I know but for a grand on a complete engine with harness and computer it was worth a shot. I was at first thinking on a hot rod but with the 67 coupe project going on I'm putting the left over cash into it. Maybe I should go ahead and get it and hold it for a while until I either sell or finish the coupe. I have always wanted to build a 34 coupe so maybe there just might be one in my future. That camaro idea wasn't bad might go that way. Now i'm cluttered with ideas. Time to sit back and think (what I should have done before). So that is what RS and SS stands for. he he heee __________________ 67' Fastback-Supercharged 4.6 DOHC Cobra, T-56, 8.8 more to come. 67' Coupe-EFI, AOD, 8.8 90 Gt-Supercharged,MAF,TB,1.7's ripper, bassani x, 3.55's, 01' cobras, headers. 89'GT-Supercharged,Heads,Cam,Intake,TB,MAF,power pipe,headers,offroad exhaust,black bullits.

11-18-2001, 12:01 PM	#13
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	forget it, you have enough projects going on already. No reason to clutter up the garage with that GM garbage the way I see it. Im sure you can find a better use for that $1000.00. If not, send it to me, and ill put it towards my blower fund.. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

11-19-2001, 01:11 AM	#14
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	*Setting aside all the problems of trying to make it fit and the substandard quality of GM products, how much would he charge you for the engine? Blah, blah, blah.... You can make anything work. The question would be... why? A DOHC Cobra engine in a fox would be cooler IMHO. I just don't like it much when people cross lines putting a different manufacturers engine into a car. I'm not a fan of the LS-1, period. So that's probably part of it, but to each his own... *On a side note, you'll shread a 700R4 with an LS-1. The reason would probaly be because he can pick it up cheap. And it would run probaly low 12's with the stock "LS1". Who cares if people would like you for doing it, or "hang with you"? You'd be kicking ther A$$'s around. And you would have a kicka$$ Hybrid, best of both worlds. You have the lightness of the Fox body, and the power of the LS1. Perfect. I have also thought about doing this, I have a 4 cylinder coupe that is just waiting on an engine swap. If you built the 700R4 right, it would hold up no problem to the LS1 engine. These "diehard" Ford guys, or whatever you want to call them....aren't going to give you any help at all. So I wouldn't bother asking them, most of them are all simple one-minded thinkers anyway. But that is their choice to be like that. Yes I know Blah, blah, it's a mustang site...blah, blah, let me have it if want, it won't bother me any. I'm just voicing my opinion. ;o) $1000 for the engine and wiring harness is CHEAP, I'd pick that up in a second especially if it only had 15k on it. The swap would probaly take a while, but OHHHHHHHH....would it be worth it when you popped the hood!

11-19-2001, 01:19 AM	#15
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	Umm, low 12's in a fox just because it has an ls1? i doubt it, the fox gt isnt that much lighter than a 93-02 f-bod, well let me rephrase that, since the foxbody is such a badazz chassis, it probaly would run low 12's with 300 hp at the wheels. "The best of both worlds", please 1bad89, your opinions suck! its a ******* gm motor, that sh1t should be illegal!! i dont care if it had 800hp stock! __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

11-19-2001, 01:37 AM	#16
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	*Umm, low 12's in a fox just because it has an ls1? i doubt it, the fox gt isnt that much lighter than a 93-02 f-bod, well let me rephrase that, since the foxbody is such a badazz chassis, it probaly would run low 12's with 300 hp at the wheels. "The best of both worlds", please 1bad89, your opinions suck! its a ****** gm motor, that sh1t should be illegal!! i dont care if it had 800hp stock! Yeah they are not much lighter only like 700+lbs. LOL (depends on what options, and what car, but that is a pretty close guess-timate I think) Ok you are contradicting yourself there bud, which one is it? low 12's or not? Yup they should make GM motors illegal! That would just be awesome huh? LoL. 800hp stock in any type of vehicle would surely get my attention, and quickly get my approval more than likely. Yeah that really showed your intelligence when you said "1bad89 your opinions suck!", couldn't I then say you opinion sucks also? I mean what is the point in that? M-a-t-u-r-i-t-y, you might want to learn that someday.

11-19-2001, 03:45 AM	#17
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	Nono, what i said is putting a gm motor in a ford chassis should be illegal", and how do you get a 700 lb difference? the 87-93 gt's were around 3400 right? what is an f-bod, about 3600? shows your inteligence. the vega idea is good, and chevys are just as cool to build, or race or whatever, im not dogging gm's, I just think cross breeding these isnt right, i guess it wouldnt be so bad if it was strictly a racecar, but the thought of that makes me sick. with ls1 power in a lighter coupe, maybe mid 12's, i just dont see 300 rwhp in a stang going low 12's, so take your "lol's" "M-a-t-u-r-i-t-y" and "guesstimates" another place, a$$! __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

11-19-2001, 04:04 AM	#18
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Us Ford guys prefer full bred. we leave the mutts to you GM lovers. That shows our passion and brand loyalty for the hobby is stronger, nothing wrong with that. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

11-19-2001, 03:54 PM	#20
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Theres just something a little weird about cross-breds like that. I say if you want to do it though go for it. The price on the engine is CHEAP. I would pick it up and look into putting it into a 67-69 camaro, or some chevy chassis like that. That would be an awesome setup. No reason why 300rwhp in a foxbody won't go mid-low 12's. Skyler __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

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