13s with a stocker, Bull****

[Mean50]

Everyone is arguing over carb vs EFI, after reading those posts I have to say that some of you must have never went to the strip. Take a look at my combo. Either I have something bad wrong or your times are LIES! I haven't had it to the track since the the latest mods, but my friend and his Z28 runs mid 13s and my car won't run with his at all. I know what you are saying, better driver, WRONG! I drive better, do everything right, but the thing falls on its face compared to the Z. It just isn't my car either, every other mustang around here has the same thing.

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89 LX Coupe
306, 10:1 compression, Holley Heads, Intake, and Cam package, 70 mm Throttle body and Mass Air, 30 lb injectors, 255 lph fuel pump, 1 5/8" full length headers, Flowmaster 2 1/2" American Thunder Cat back system, Centerforce dual friction clutch, 4.10 gears
50-175 hp Nitrous Works kit, 5" Auto Meter Shift Light

[93CobraR]

Well, there must be something wrong with you and everyone elses car. If your buddy runs mid 13's and you can't hang with him that means either your motor is F*cked or you can't drive. Hell, My can ran low 13's stock on slicks. It's not our problem, it's yours.

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87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's.
Best time 12.96
Best MPH 103.42
Best 60' 1.695

Visit my site at:
http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

[Rick 91GT]

Well personally speaking, I would never lie about my times or horsepower, I have timeslips to prove it. I would say something is wrong with your motor or tune. Is that on the spray your losing? I got my stock motor with 160K on it to go 12.87 @ 104mph with full suspension and exhaust on 10.5" D.O.T's, it had stock untounched heads, cam, intakes, injectors, etc....

Now I have the Holley kit on a fresh 302 and with bad heads (seals and guides) and no traction I went 12.6 @ 108 on a 2.48 60ft. I don't have the compression ratio you have either I am around 9.3, so something is defintely wrong, we have very similar combos, and I am currebtly running the 3:73 not the 4:30's. With the new heads and custom cam and the additions I did this winter, I am looking for solid 11's, and it shouldn't be a problem getting there.

Tell your buddy to come up to MD and I'll show him the tail lights of a Mustang.

Now if you want some help can you give a little more info. What kind of fuel pressure and timing are you running?


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[fiveohpatrol]

if you've got the holley systemax in a coupe without the spray it should be running ATLEAST mid 13's, especially with a T5 car. if my car can hit 13's with stock heads,cam&intake AND an AOD on 225/60 street tires then you should absolutely KILL my times, my advice to you is to get it dyno tuned and see what the problem is because either you are a horrible driver or your car isnt putting out nearly the horsepower that it can , what are you actual times? include et,mph and 60ft, and weather and track conditions, then we can go from there

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88 Notchback 5.0, 3.73's, Ported E7's, Explorer int. w/ ported lower, pulleys, Crane 1.7's, BBK headers, off-road H-pipe, flowmasters, subframe connectors, 65mm TB, shift kit, March ram air kit, motorsport wires, MSD coil, upper and lower control arms, 155lph fuel pump, cheap 2800 stall, Crane Adj.FPR, best time- 13.99@99.75, not yet tested times after rockers,intake or ported heads

[SaleenGTS]

Man, you are a MORON!!! If you can't hang with 13 sec Z then you aren't worthy to even sit IN a mustang with those mods....no wait...you aren't worthy PERIOD. My bud had ajacked up 302 with the SystemMax 2 kit, and spinning through 1 and 2, he ran 13.30's all day long. Your car is seriously jacked....are you sure it is a 5.0? Just asking because you sound like you don't know your $hit. Just a thought

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Dustin
93 Cobra 261 rwhp
89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp(TFS Intake,TFS Heads, BD-11A 9#,Ecam,1.6 rr's, BBK longtubes, lots more...

[mustang17]

With your car you should be in the 12's EASY!Low 13's with street tires. Something is wrong with you or your car. If you are the driver you claim, you should be there.

What were your "latest mods?"

You "do everything right" meaning what?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you think with the 175 shot you should be making a hair under 500HP! I would love to see a stock or even a bolt on Z, try to hang with that.


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1995 GT Black- Edelbrock 6037's,Intake,Edelbrock cam,70mm TB,75mm pro-m,Taylor wires, pulleys,Equal length headers,K&N filter
Flowmaster,3.73's, Eibach pro rate springs
lower control arms Centerforce clutch
New motor in the works!

[fastang]

Mean50, dont start calling everyone liars about their times, have you checked you MAF? What kind do you have? Are you detonating? Hows the idle? Does the car surge at all? I have the same problem you do, I hit a 14.6 stock. I went to the track with everything in my sig except gears n longtubes and hit a shitty 14.4 @98mph, then I installed the 355's and the longtubes and went back to hit another 14.4! Point is, dont get mad, just keep trying. I ended up having the wrong resistor on my MAF. When I put the correct resistor on it cleared up the driveability probs but didnt gain much hp. Good Luck

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

Man - 6 replies to your ridiclous post and still no response from you. Mean 5.0????? Hardly! I'd be embarrassed to use that as a username if I were you. I hit 13.8 on street tires - bone stock. With all those mods you have, you'd have to be THE worst driver out there, or be so sloppy a$$ drunk you couldn't even get the key into the ignition, to not be in the 13's (at least). Why don't you and your Slomaro friend come up to NY, and I'll give out some driving lessons. Helpful hint: put the ebrake down before you run him next time.

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts);
30# injectors; 190 lb fp; FPR; TFS track heat Intake - 12.513 @ 112 mph (Pre-inj/fuelpump/FPR/intake)

[SaleenGTS]

Damn go boyee

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Dustin
93 Cobra 261 rwhp
89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp(TFS Intake,TFS Heads, BD-11A 9#,Ecam,1.6 rr's, BBK longtubes, lots more...

[USMC302]

MEAN50, don't want to beat a horse to death but they are right, i mean, I ran 13.9 with exhaust and gears only. Keep tuning but don't give up just because things aren't so hot right now.

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88LX NOTCH, 88GT, 95 GT.

[fordmanck]

Hate to keep this going but come on. My car is damn near stock and runs 13.9's off the spray. I'm lopping 1.6 off with my spray. You havent told us if these runs against the Z were N/A or on the spray. Also, in your sig you say the kit is 50-175 horse kit, which shot are you running. I would actually be embarrased to come here and tell people those times with that combo, let along try to call a whole BB out. Just my 2¢.

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94GT Mac Headers, BBK Off-road H-pipe, ASP Pulleys, Pro 5.0 Shifter, 4.10 Gear, Weld in subs, Flowmaster 2 chambers, NOS 150 shot. Best ET 12.34 @ 110.

[NOS_Notch]

your car is WAAAAAY wrong brotha..
W/ a 150 shot..that car could go 10's on slicks.
If you don't believe me i have timeslips on my "users rides" section of this site.
I have stock heads, cam ,crank,rockers, intake....etc.
My best on ET Streets is 13.20's on motor
And 12.50's on 75 shot.
In a couple weeks....low 11's....guranteed.
I will post my time slips on may 26th....


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4.10's,long tubes & 75 shot...Goes 12.50's
Check it out at http://www.burnouts.webprovider.com

11's coming soon!!!!
Heads,intake and cam are all here

[Unit 5302]

Agreed. Your car is messed up. Even with horrible driving on radials you should still be in the 13's.

With a tune my stock motored 87GT with exhaust and a K&N should be in the 13's. With 2.73's no less.

You must have a serious fuel or timing problem. Maybe the cam is installed 180* off? LOL

Seriously though, you need to bring that thing in. If you did the work to it, let somebody who know's what they are doing look at it. Somebody seriously messed that thing up.

[lx mike]

mean50: i thought i was the only bad driver here!! geesh all those mods and you can't hang with a mid 13 second camaro??

a few questions: what tires you using?? any suspension help or is it all stock??
why 30 lb injectors?? do you use the nitrous and still can't stay with him??


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93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's Sub's and K&N.

[poopstang]

it takes more than a bad driver with those mods to run that slow!

I run 13.8's with b303, 1.7's, 70mm TB
on street tires and 2.73's

[FiveLiterGT]

Mean 50,
Please don't take offense to this, as I'm not trying to be harsh. With what you have done in mods, I think you should be well into the 13s. You can be the best driver in the world, but that isn't gonna help you if something is out of whack (trust me, I know.....been there, done that). Who did the work on your car? Is it possible that maybe the distributor is off a tooth or two (I had that happen) The point is, don't take it so hard and personal that the car isn't in the 13s. I think mine should run alot faster than it does, but I have yet to meet my 12 second goal. If you wanna ask anything technical, or specific, feel free to email us. You can also go to the website to see my current mods. (FYI< my best ET with those mods ia a 13.496 @ 102.89 MPH.

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1995 GT
1991 LX AOD
www.wingard.stangnet.com

[Unit 5302]

I wondered a bit about the 30lbers too, but then thought his N20 kit may have been a dry kit with big jets.

[quikbird]

Sixteen or so responses and not a word of rebuttal from "Mean50". We're wasting our time with this clown! As the old saying goes..."like trying to teach a pig to sing: it wastes your time and anoys the pig!" IMHO

[TheSloAod]

maybe you should try and tune your car. then learn how to drive and if that doesnt help then try a different hobby. 13.42 @ 104 on street tires with a stock automatic car, no cam, unported stock heads and unported intake

[SaleenGTS]

TheSloAod-
13.42@104 stock, unported?? Sorry I don't see it unless you are blown of huffin gas.

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Dustin
93 Cobra 261 rwhp
89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp(TFS Intake,TFS Heads, BD-11A 9#,Ecam,1.6 rr's, BBK longtubes, lots more...