Home Made supercharger?????

screaming_pas$enger88 · 05-10-2001, 02:30 PM

WARNING: really stupid question ahead.
i figure something good must have come out of a stupid question at one time so here goes...
you've got your K&N's and what not to allow more/faster air into your intake right?? ive been kicking around the idea of having air fed right into the duct via something like an air compressor. have an inline valve so you can control how much air is put into the engine. now, im not talking wide open full bore industrial air compressor action here, but just something small with a little bit of air flow...... your opinions???
(ready aim FIRE!!!)

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SmokeyDP · 05-10-2001, 02:54 PM

I once came up with the crazy idea of attaching a leaf-blower to my 87 boneville to see if I would get the supercharger effect. I was never really bored enough to try it though.

Scott

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Smokedawg · 05-10-2001, 03:00 PM

So you are goin to mount a Big @ss air compressor in your car?? that will only add bout 400lbs..good idea..

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screaming_pas$enger88 · 05-10-2001, 03:13 PM

ok.....i'll just quote myself from above...

"now, im not talking wide open full bore industrial air compressor action here, but just something small with a little bit of air flow....."

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Smokedawg · 05-10-2001, 03:21 PM

Sorry, i misread. I thought it said that you were goin to run a wide open full bore industrial air compressor. How would u run this thing?? If you could get it to blow enough in you will have to compensate with fuel.

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82 GT · 05-10-2001, 03:25 PM

I admire your thinking but by the time you actually figure out how to mount and operate such a device you could have bought a supercharger.

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'82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust.
1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

MYLITTLEHO · 05-10-2001, 03:31 PM

I think the biggest problem would be getting the boost relative to the RPM. Turbo's and SC's give boost that is relative to the RPM. not much boost at idle and alot at WOT. you'd have to think of some way to govern the air to make sure you don't get too much or the parts will start flying!!!!

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1988 mustang GT (AOD)(speed density)
full exhaust, underdrives, K&N 3:55's
BEST ET: 14.05 99.56

screaming_pas$enger88 · 05-10-2001, 03:36 PM

well as far as relative to the rpms and whatnot i figure if you have a proportioning valve and you dont go to nuts you'll be ok.... same as with compensating for fuel, i thought about that and said, well, im not gonna be running 11 pounds of boost. i dunno, just an idea that needs a "little" tweeking lol.

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05-10-2001, 03:48 PM

How about strapping in one of those Howling Monkeys to the intake???? They only weigh about 30 lbs and they have tremendous lung capacity. LOL

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Rick 91GT · 05-10-2001, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bada$$lx:
How about strapping in one of those Howling Monkeys to the intake???? They only weigh about 30 lbs and they have tremendous lung capacity. LOL

LMFAO

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screaming_pas$enger88 · 05-10-2001, 04:07 PM

where can i find one of these howling monkeys. i cant seem to find one in summit or jegs.........is it something thats custom made????

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jimberg · 05-10-2001, 04:14 PM

An air compressor could not put out near enough volume of air to make a difference in HP.

Nitrous would do the job much better.

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jimberg · 05-10-2001, 04:17 PM

I think I have an idea of how you could get the necessary volume of air, although you would need an intercooler.

Strap a ricer to your inlet hose. It'd be hot air, but that's what the intercooler is for.

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351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

05-10-2001, 04:22 PM

Good one Jimberg - I like you're thinking.......but I still think the Howling Monkey's the way to go!

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts);
30# injectors; 190 lb fp; FPR; TFS track heat Intake - 12.513 @ 112 mph (Pre-inj/fuelpump/FPR/intake)

dinomite · 05-10-2001, 05:22 PM

Ya, an air compressor wouldn't even touch the volume of air that the car needs. I think the onlything thats feasable as a hommade air comp is a leaf blower, and then you still have to problem of making it relative to rpm. If anyone is going to the dyyno at some point, take a leafblower and try this out!

screaming_pas$enger88 · 05-10-2001, 06:08 PM

oh well, like i said......just a thought. lol

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Unit 5302 · 05-10-2001, 07:12 PM

You'll have to get those Howler Monkies past customs, that'll definately be a chore!

redrider · 05-10-2001, 09:14 PM

Here ya go how about a hair dryer.

joey50gt · 05-10-2001, 10:34 PM

hey about the leaf blower thing my friend had a picture of a mustang with a red leaf blower straped on were the stock intake hose feeds in to the finder well. it looked so clean that i did not know it was a leaf blower at first, but i dont know if it really worked.
I will try and get the web.site and post it up here so you guys can see it.

Dark_5.0 · 05-10-2001, 11:47 PM

Ok I have not personaly seen it but the rumor is that this guy that runs at the local track built his own centrifugal turbo he has a miata and runs a 13.58 @98mph. At least 10 people swear up and down they have seen it.

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05-10-2001, 02:30 PM	#1
screaming_pas$enger88 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 35	Home Made supercharger????? WARNING: really stupid question ahead. i figure something good must have come out of a stupid question at one time so here goes... you've got your K&N's and what not to allow more/faster air into your intake right?? ive been kicking around the idea of having air fed right into the duct via something like an air compressor. have an inline valve so you can control how much air is put into the engine. now, im not talking wide open full bore industrial air compressor action here, but just something small with a little bit of air flow...... your opinions??? (ready aim FIRE!!!) ------------------ AIM= OneQuickStang

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05-10-2001, 02:54 PM	#2
SmokeyDP Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Middlesex, NJ Posts: 212	I once came up with the crazy idea of attaching a leaf-blower to my 87 boneville to see if I would get the supercharger effect. I was never really bored enough to try it though. Scott ------------------ 1992 GT 5.0L Convertible BBK Shorties, Flowmasters, Super Chip, Mass Air, Under Drive Pullies, Hurst Shifter, Duck Tape AIM: SmokeyDP

05-10-2001, 03:00 PM	#3
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	So you are goin to mount a Big @ss air compressor in your car?? that will only add bout 400lbs..good idea.. ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, A9P Computer, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley Fuel Regulator, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 79mm Mass Air Unit, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors

05-10-2001, 03:13 PM	#4
screaming_pas$enger88 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 35	ok.....i'll just quote myself from above... "now, im not talking wide open full bore industrial air compressor action here, but just something small with a little bit of air flow....." ------------------ AIM= OneQuickStang

05-10-2001, 03:21 PM	#5
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	Sorry, i misread. I thought it said that you were goin to run a wide open full bore industrial air compressor. How would u run this thing?? If you could get it to blow enough in you will have to compensate with fuel. ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, A9P Computer, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley Fuel Regulator, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 79mm Mass Air Unit, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Short Throw Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors

05-10-2001, 03:25 PM	#6
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	I admire your thinking but by the time you actually figure out how to mount and operate such a device you could have bought a supercharger. ------------------ '82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust. 1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

05-10-2001, 03:31 PM	#7
MYLITTLEHO Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Zachary, LA Posts: 2	I think the biggest problem would be getting the boost relative to the RPM. Turbo's and SC's give boost that is relative to the RPM. not much boost at idle and alot at WOT. you'd have to think of some way to govern the air to make sure you don't get too much or the parts will start flying!!!! ------------------ 1988 mustang GT (AOD)(speed density) full exhaust, underdrives, K&N 3:55's BEST ET: 14.05 99.56

05-10-2001, 03:36 PM	#8
screaming_pas$enger88 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 35	well as far as relative to the rpms and whatnot i figure if you have a proportioning valve and you dont go to nuts you'll be ok.... same as with compensating for fuel, i thought about that and said, well, im not gonna be running 11 pounds of boost. i dunno, just an idea that needs a "little" tweeking lol. ------------------ AIM= OneQuickStang

05-10-2001, 03:48 PM	#9
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	How about strapping in one of those Howling Monkeys to the intake???? They only weigh about 30 lbs and they have tremendous lung capacity. LOL ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 30# injectors; 190 lb fp; FPR; TFS track heat Intake - 12.513 @ 112 mph (Pre-inj/fuelpump/FPR/intake)

05-10-2001, 04:07 PM	#11
screaming_pas$enger88 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 35	where can i find one of these howling monkeys. i cant seem to find one in summit or jegs.........is it something thats custom made???? ------------------ AIM= OneQuickStang

05-10-2001, 04:14 PM	#12
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	An air compressor could not put out near enough volume of air to make a difference in HP. Nitrous would do the job much better. ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

05-10-2001, 04:17 PM	#13
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	I think I have an idea of how you could get the necessary volume of air, although you would need an intercooler. Strap a ricer to your inlet hose. It'd be hot air, but that's what the intercooler is for. ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

05-10-2001, 04:22 PM	#14
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	Good one Jimberg - I like you're thinking.......but I still think the Howling Monkey's the way to go! ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 30# injectors; 190 lb fp; FPR; TFS track heat Intake - 12.513 @ 112 mph (Pre-inj/fuelpump/FPR/intake)

05-10-2001, 05:22 PM	#15
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	Ya, an air compressor wouldn't even touch the volume of air that the car needs. I think the onlything thats feasable as a hommade air comp is a leaf blower, and then you still have to problem of making it relative to rpm. If anyone is going to the dyyno at some point, take a leafblower and try this out!

05-10-2001, 06:08 PM	#16
screaming_pas$enger88 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 35	oh well, like i said......just a thought. lol ------------------ AIM= OneQuickStang

05-10-2001, 07:12 PM	#17
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	You'll have to get those Howler Monkies past customs, that'll definately be a chore!

05-10-2001, 09:14 PM	#18
redrider Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: seffner, Florida, usa Posts: 95	Here ya go how about a hair dryer.

05-10-2001, 10:34 PM	#19
joey50gt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: hurst,texas,america Posts: 95	hey about the leaf blower thing my friend had a picture of a mustang with a red leaf blower straped on were the stock intake hose feeds in to the finder well. it looked so clean that i did not know it was a leaf blower at first, but i dont know if it really worked. I will try and get the web.site and post it up here so you guys can see it.

05-10-2001, 11:47 PM	#20
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Ok I have not personaly seen it but the rumor is that this guy that runs at the local track built his own centrifugal turbo he has a miata and runs a 13.58 @98mph. At least 10 people swear up and down they have seen it. ------------------ 88 mustang gt convertible bored to 306 BBk equal length headers mac cold air fender kit cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 160* thermostat 16 degrees of timing electric fan off 94' t-bird jacobs electronics cap and wires