Cylinder Head Poll

TJR · 05-09-2001, 09:06 PM

I'm just trying to get some ideas on what to buy when I have the money. If it makes a difference I already have a GT-40 intake, 24lb. injectors, 1.6 fms roller rockers (not that I have to stay with the pedestal mount). Lets see what everyone has.

1) Brand of Head/model

2) best E.T./M.P.H.

3) Where did you get them/Price

4) If you had to do it all over again, would you get the same ones or something else (Brand/Model).

The car will probably be 90% street driven until I buy another one. Any replies would be appreciated.

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1989 lx notch
89,000 miles
bolt-ons,stock heads/cam
60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

93CobraR · 05-09-2001, 09:28 PM

1. Cast iron GT-40's
2. In the sig, stock intake and cam
3. Off line, $400
4. Yes, but I would have them ported, with bigger vavles.

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87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's.
Best time 12.96
Best MPH 103.42
Best 60' 1.695

Visit my site at:
http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

13sec95vert · 05-09-2001, 10:45 PM

from what ive seen the victor jr heads are the best heads but it would be better to get a set that matches your intake so if i was you id go with the gt40 heads

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1995 gt convertible:
3.55 gears, underdrive pulleys, cobra intake , fenderwell cold air, 65mm throttle body, 75mm mass air meter, off-road h pipe, borla cat back, custom diablo chip, 155lph fuel pump lentech aode street terminator w/ 10" converter stalls at 2800 rpms, yokohama a520(drag radials) 275s

withamc · 05-10-2001, 10:20 AM

GT-40P's - about $700 complete from Central Coast Mustang. They require P-specific headers though. I haven't run it, but I dyno'd 277 RWHP.

TJR · 05-10-2001, 04:15 PM

Thanks for the replies....I don't mind the GT-40s or GT-40Ps, I think they make good affordable power. As of now, I'm leaning towards the Trick Flows. Anyways, lets keep the responses coming.

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1989 lx notch
89,000 miles
bolt-ons,stock heads/cam
60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

jimberg · 05-10-2001, 04:20 PM

I went with Trick Flows and I would do it again. I got them from Summit. Never been to a track, so I can't tell you. When I get the courage, I plan to go to a local dyno. I'll post those numbers when I do.

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351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

Capri306 · 05-10-2001, 04:39 PM

I haven't bought them yet, but as for flow numbers, the AFRs can't be beat. Comparing the street legal heads, anyhoo. I found it interesting their 1.94/1.60 valved head outflowed others with 2.02/1.60 valves. Must be something with that CNC-made ports and chamber. I think it was sedanman that talked with some dude that had an 11 second LX that ran AFRs. Check out their site here to learn more. Those heads look so nice, all made from aluminuminuminuminum....hehehehe.

Oh, with those 24lb/hr injectors, did you get a matched MAF sensor??? BTW, I'm getting a Cobra intake, 65mm TB, E303 (possibly a Novi2000), and I already have BBK full lengths, H-pipe, 24lb/hr juicers, and a 77mm ProFlo MAF. Hope this helps.

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Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online
1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73
1987 Mustang LX Notch

SaleenGTS · 05-10-2001, 05:47 PM

1) TFS TW 2.02/1.9
2)12.7@111 on street tires
3)Saleen/$995
4)Love them, but I would try AFR or Canfield.

Capri...I think the Canfields might flow a little better than the AFR's...IMO

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Dustin
89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp UNTUNED(TFS Intake, spacer,Heads and #2 cam, BD-11A 9#(only boosting 6???WTF),1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MSD 6BTM,FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes and H-Pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55 lots more...

12.564@118.49 on street tires is my best so far. Still untuned

hippi97 · 05-10-2001, 06:21 PM

edelbrock 6022`s
8.01 @ 85.71
local speedshop 1079.00
I would buy the same ones again

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85 mustang coupe with a 88 block,edelbrock 6022 aluminum heads,crane roller rockers,aluminum driveshaft,C-4 trans,3500 stall,3.73 gears,lakewood traction action liftbars with air bag in right rear spring,longtube headers,flowmasters,
weiand stealth intake,600 holley,
best e.t. 1/8 mile 8.01
best mph. 85.71
best 60 foot 1.72...

WADS56 · 05-10-2001, 08:27 PM

I chose the canfields and would never get another head. I did allot of research before buying, and a most of the people I talked to also agreed that the canfields are exellent. I also paid the big price that comes with them. 1700.00 stage 2 bare except the valves (ouch). I assembled them my self with better springs, locks, and retainers that they offered for less $.

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347 W/ A-trim 6#'s, Canfield heads, out of the box Systemax II intake, solid roller cam. 11.1 @123mph

93lx 5.0 daily driver

302man · 05-10-2001, 08:58 PM

I like my plain old common edelbrok 6032's. (ex. ported)and I have the small valves too. Velicity builds torque. Don't go too big with a street car. I think I might try the victor jr's next. You cann't go wrong with Edelbrok on it. Best time 10.13@135 mph

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302,vortech s trim @18-20lbs showing,edelbrock performer heads-o ringed,gt 40 upper&lower, mac 1 5/8"long tubes, sub frame connectors,50/50 rear, 70/30 front, manual rack,3:55 gears, c4 , best time 10.13@135mph

TJR · 05-10-2001, 11:48 PM

Capri...I am running a Pro-M Bullet calibrated for the 24lb. injectors. In cold weather the car used to die right away after the initial start-up. Also, it would have a bad idle surge when sitting at a stoplight. I think I remember seeing other topics about this before on this site (something to do with the fuel curve of the 24s being different than 19s). Anyways, one day I reset the TPS (.98v) and adjusted my idle (600-700 on factory tach) and haven't had a problem since. Now it idles perfect and never dies after I start it up in the morning.

WADS56...Do the Canfields have raised exhaust ports and require special headers? They're supposed to be developing some new small block ford head aimed at the street cars. 5.0 had an article about them. I called Canfield up awhile back and they said they were having problems with the coolant passages so the new heads weren't out yet.

Thanks to everyone else that has replied. Looks like a lot of strong running cars out there.

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1989 lx notch
89,000 miles
bolt-ons,stock heads/cam
60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

WADS56 · 05-11-2001, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TJR:

WADS56...Do the Canfields have raised exhaust ports and require special headers? They're supposed to be developing some new small block ford head aimed at the street cars. 5.0 had an article about them. I called Canfield up awhile back and they said they were having problems with the coolant passages so the new heads weren't out yet.

I have mac long tubes and they fit perfect. The heads have 2 sets of threads that you can mount the header to. The inner ones are for stock style headers, and the outer ones are for big tube custom headers. The canfields that I have would not make a good street head. They work better on big cube small blocks or high rpm 302's. The quality is exellent though, It might be worth it to wait for canfield to relese there street head.

TJR · 05-11-2001, 07:02 PM

WADS56...Out of curiosity, what are the flow numbers on your heads?

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1989 lx notch
89,000 miles
bolt-ons,stock heads/cam
60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

Skyman · 05-11-2001, 10:31 PM

TRICK FLOW STREET HEATS $899 at hawaii racing.
Yes I would get them again.

332rwhp
12.55

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Mustang owners get a 15% discount!
www.OJAIPCPROS.com

TJR · 05-12-2001, 03:30 PM

Sky...$900.00 is a really good prce. How many miles do you have on them?

Is there anyone running the Brodix 5.0 or GT-40Xs?

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1989 lx notch
89,000 miles
bolt-ons,stock heads/cam
60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

TJR · 05-13-2001, 05:29 PM

Just seeing if I can get a few more replies...back to the top.

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1989 lx notch
89,000 miles
bolt-ons,stock heads/cam
60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

Bob · 05-13-2001, 05:46 PM

1-Edelbrock 6037's
2-12.96@107.1
3-local speed shop (same price as Summit)
4-I'm real happy with 'em and I'd get the same ones again, although I'd like to check out a set of AFR's also.

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1985 Mustang GT

'85 GT 12.96@107.1 / '72 Mach1
Long list...check website!!
My Website

mikew88gt · 05-13-2001, 06:07 PM

1. Edelbrock RPM (version w/ the thermactor
passage).

2. Haven't run at a timed event but I seem
to run with hi 12 second cars.

3. BBK/$1100-1200 range. (this was like
5yrs ago).

4. I'd buy them again for the same goal I
had 5 years ago. I'm in the process of
'upgrading' again to a street/strip combo
with the emphasis on strip. I'd go with
victor jr's or AFR's now but I'd also run
more cubes. The Edelbrocks were quality
all the way.

WADS56 · 05-13-2001, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TJR:
WADS56...Out of curiosity, what are the flow numbers on your heads?

I don't have the flow sheet with me, but it was like 300cfm on the intake and 232 on the exhaust @.600 lift. The low lift flow #'s were massive.

05-09-2001, 09:06 PM	#1
TJR Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bowling Green, OH Posts: 270	Cylinder Head Poll I'm just trying to get some ideas on what to buy when I have the money. If it makes a difference I already have a GT-40 intake, 24lb. injectors, 1.6 fms roller rockers (not that I have to stay with the pedestal mount). Lets see what everyone has. 1) Brand of Head/model 2) best E.T./M.P.H. 3) Where did you get them/Price 4) If you had to do it all over again, would you get the same ones or something else (Brand/Model). The car will probably be 90% street driven until I buy another one. Any replies would be appreciated. ------------------ 1989 lx notch 89,000 miles bolt-ons,stock heads/cam 60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

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05-09-2001, 09:28 PM	#2
93CobraR Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,575	1. Cast iron GT-40's 2. In the sig, stock intake and cam 3. Off line, $400 4. Yes, but I would have them ported, with bigger vavles. ------------------ 87 GT, 4 inch cowl hood,17x9 Cobra R's/255/45's,GT-40 heads,long tubes headers,h-pipe,Flows,BBK cold air, Mass air,70mm MAF, 1.7's, 1" spacer,underdrive pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra, Adj. fuel Reg., Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's. Best time 12.96 Best MPH 103.42 Best 60' 1.695 Visit my site at: http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html

05-09-2001, 10:45 PM	#3
13sec95vert Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Katy Texas Posts: 70	from what ive seen the victor jr heads are the best heads but it would be better to get a set that matches your intake so if i was you id go with the gt40 heads ------------------ 1995 gt convertible: 3.55 gears, underdrive pulleys, cobra intake , fenderwell cold air, 65mm throttle body, 75mm mass air meter, off-road h pipe, borla cat back, custom diablo chip, 155lph fuel pump lentech aode street terminator w/ 10" converter stalls at 2800 rpms, yokohama a520(drag radials) 275s

05-10-2001, 10:20 AM	#4
withamc Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 396	GT-40P's - about $700 complete from Central Coast Mustang. They require P-specific headers though. I haven't run it, but I dyno'd 277 RWHP.

05-10-2001, 04:15 PM	#5
TJR Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bowling Green, OH Posts: 270	Thanks for the replies....I don't mind the GT-40s or GT-40Ps, I think they make good affordable power. As of now, I'm leaning towards the Trick Flows. Anyways, lets keep the responses coming. ------------------ 1989 lx notch 89,000 miles bolt-ons,stock heads/cam 60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

05-10-2001, 04:20 PM	#6
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	I went with Trick Flows and I would do it again. I got them from Summit. Never been to a track, so I can't tell you. When I get the courage, I plan to go to a local dyno. I'll post those numbers when I do. ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

05-10-2001, 04:39 PM	#7
Capri306 Moderator Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Posts: 1,001	I haven't bought them yet, but as for flow numbers, the AFRs can't be beat. Comparing the street legal heads, anyhoo. I found it interesting their 1.94/1.60 valved head outflowed others with 2.02/1.60 valves. Must be something with that CNC-made ports and chamber. I think it was sedanman that talked with some dude that had an 11 second LX that ran AFRs. Check out their site here to learn more. Those heads look so nice, all made from aluminuminuminuminum....hehehehe. Oh, with those 24lb/hr injectors, did you get a matched MAF sensor??? BTW, I'm getting a Cobra intake, 65mm TB, E303 (possibly a Novi2000), and I already have BBK full lengths, H-pipe, 24lb/hr juicers, and a 77mm ProFlo MAF. Hope this helps. ------------------ Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online 1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73 1987 Mustang LX Notch

05-10-2001, 05:47 PM	#8
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	1) TFS TW 2.02/1.9 2)12.7@111 on street tires 3)Saleen/$995 4)Love them, but I would try AFR or Canfield. Capri...I think the Canfields might flow a little better than the AFR's...IMO ------------------ Dustin 89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp UNTUNED(TFS Intake, spacer,Heads and #2 cam, BD-11A 9#(only boosting 6???WTF),1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MSD 6BTM,FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes and H-Pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55 lots more... 12.564@118.49 on street tires is my best so far. Still untuned

05-10-2001, 06:21 PM	#9
hippi97 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: cohutta georgia Posts: 43	edelbrock 6022`s 8.01 @ 85.71 local speedshop 1079.00 I would buy the same ones again ------------------ 85 mustang coupe with a 88 block,edelbrock 6022 aluminum heads,crane roller rockers,aluminum driveshaft,C-4 trans,3500 stall,3.73 gears,lakewood traction action liftbars with air bag in right rear spring,longtube headers,flowmasters, weiand stealth intake,600 holley, best e.t. 1/8 mile 8.01 best mph. 85.71 best 60 foot 1.72...

05-10-2001, 08:27 PM	#10
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	I chose the canfields and would never get another head. I did allot of research before buying, and a most of the people I talked to also agreed that the canfields are exellent. I also paid the big price that comes with them. 1700.00 stage 2 bare except the valves (ouch). I assembled them my self with better springs, locks, and retainers that they offered for less $. ------------------ 347 W/ A-trim 6#'s, Canfield heads, out of the box Systemax II intake, solid roller cam. 11.1 @123mph 93lx 5.0 daily driver

05-10-2001, 08:58 PM	#11
302man Registered Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: INDIANAPOLIS Posts: 404	I like my plain old common edelbrok 6032's. (ex. ported)and I have the small valves too. Velicity builds torque. Don't go too big with a street car. I think I might try the victor jr's next. You cann't go wrong with Edelbrok on it. Best time 10.13@135 mph ------------------ 302,vortech s trim @18-20lbs showing,edelbrock performer heads-o ringed,gt 40 upper&lower, mac 1 5/8"long tubes, sub frame connectors,50/50 rear, 70/30 front, manual rack,3:55 gears, c4 , best time 10.13@135mph

05-10-2001, 11:48 PM	#12
TJR Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bowling Green, OH Posts: 270	Capri...I am running a Pro-M Bullet calibrated for the 24lb. injectors. In cold weather the car used to die right away after the initial start-up. Also, it would have a bad idle surge when sitting at a stoplight. I think I remember seeing other topics about this before on this site (something to do with the fuel curve of the 24s being different than 19s). Anyways, one day I reset the TPS (.98v) and adjusted my idle (600-700 on factory tach) and haven't had a problem since. Now it idles perfect and never dies after I start it up in the morning. WADS56...Do the Canfields have raised exhaust ports and require special headers? They're supposed to be developing some new small block ford head aimed at the street cars. 5.0 had an article about them. I called Canfield up awhile back and they said they were having problems with the coolant passages so the new heads weren't out yet. Thanks to everyone else that has replied. Looks like a lot of strong running cars out there. ------------------ 1989 lx notch 89,000 miles bolt-ons,stock heads/cam 60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

05-11-2001, 07:02 PM	#14
TJR Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bowling Green, OH Posts: 270	WADS56...Out of curiosity, what are the flow numbers on your heads? ------------------ 1989 lx notch 89,000 miles bolt-ons,stock heads/cam 60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

05-11-2001, 10:31 PM	#15
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	TRICK FLOW STREET HEATS $899 at hawaii racing. Yes I would get them again. 332rwhp 12.55 Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Mustang owners get a 15% discount! www.OJAIPCPROS.com

05-12-2001, 03:30 PM	#16
TJR Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bowling Green, OH Posts: 270	Sky...$900.00 is a really good prce. How many miles do you have on them? Is there anyone running the Brodix 5.0 or GT-40Xs? ------------------ 1989 lx notch 89,000 miles bolt-ons,stock heads/cam 60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

05-13-2001, 05:29 PM	#17
TJR Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bowling Green, OH Posts: 270	Just seeing if I can get a few more replies...back to the top. ------------------ 1989 lx notch 89,000 miles bolt-ons,stock heads/cam 60'- 2.07, 8.90@78, 13.93@99

05-13-2001, 05:46 PM	#18
Bob "Old School Gearhead" Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Peru, Illinois Posts: 617	1-Edelbrock 6037's 2-12.96@107.1 3-local speed shop (same price as Summit) 4-I'm real happy with 'em and I'd get the same ones again, although I'd like to check out a set of AFR's also. ------------------ 1985 Mustang GT '85 GT 12.96@107.1 / '72 Mach1 Long list...check website!! My Website

05-13-2001, 06:07 PM	#19
mikew88gt Registered Member Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: New York State Posts: 242	1. Edelbrock RPM (version w/ the thermactor passage). 2. Haven't run at a timed event but I seem to run with hi 12 second cars. 3. BBK/$1100-1200 range. (this was like 5yrs ago). 4. I'd buy them again for the same goal I had 5 years ago. I'm in the process of 'upgrading' again to a street/strip combo with the emphasis on strip. I'd go with victor jr's or AFR's now but I'd also run more cubes. The Edelbrocks were quality all the way.