5.0 vs 4.6 what faster stock both 5 speed 95vs96

aonick · 11-08-2001, 01:56 AM

5.0 vs 4.6 what faster stock both 5 speed 95vs96 im lookin to buy a mustang

PKRWUD · 11-08-2001, 02:32 AM

The 5.0. BUT 5 years from now the 4.6's will be spanking the 5.0's. Although that statement won't find alot of support here, it is true.

Take care,
-Chris

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Coupe5oh · 11-08-2001, 04:51 AM

what? basically its making more power now 99-02) then a stock 5.0, but in the world of stangs, most of us modify, and the 5.0 is imo, the best motor to modify and kicks some arse!

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60'-1.9 (on 225/60/15 firehawks)
mph- 98.70

PKRWUD · 11-08-2001, 05:52 AM

It's been around for nearly 40 years, it better be easier to modify! The mod engines have only been in production for 11 years, and the aftermarket parts world is only now giving mod engine owners options. In the next 5 years, the 5.0 is going to fade into the past just like carburetors did. i know that there are still plenty of carbed engines around, but 5 years ago, no one believed that there was ever going to be hi-po parts available to take EFI onto the track. At any track you went to, carbs outnumbered EFI by 99 to 1. That's hardly the case these days. The same thing is going to happen with the 5.0. You'll see.

Take care,
-Chris

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Chevyguy · 11-08-2001, 08:47 AM

Good point Chris, Any motor that is no longer in production in new vehicles will ultimately fade in popularity. The Small block Chevy may be the only holdout and those mostly will live on in street rods and 69 Camaros. Everyone else will run LS-1 or Modular motors even for most swaps as low mileage motor/trans swaps will be harder to find in wrecking yards. The 10th aniversary of the last NEW 5.0 mustang is coming soon!

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My 90 Notch and 88 2.3 Notch(88 for sale)
74 Chevy Laguna Type S-3 305 now 454 soon My web site

aonick · 11-08-2001, 04:29 PM

the new 5.0 will in 2005??

Dark_5.0 · 11-08-2001, 05:18 PM

UMMMM...... well IMO the 5.0 will always be popular and will always be able to hang with a 4.6.

In racing $$+know how=speed I dont care what size engine you have.

I would rather have a pushrod engine anyday cause they are easier to work on. I think if anything the 4.6 will fade out and wont even be here in 5 years.

Ford is gonna have to pull there head out there *** and realize that chevy is gonna kill them in sells in the coming years if they dont give us ford guys something with more cubic inches and power from the factory.
I guarantee you that whatever Chevy brings out to replace the camaro will have an LS1 or a LS6 or some sort of big cube V8.

Sure the camaro is gone now but when it returns "Watchout"

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88 mustang gt convertible bored to 306 BBk equal length headers, mac cold air fender kit, 3.73 FMS gears, Steeds Tri-ax shifter, Steeda underdrive pullies, Custom off road X-pipe, 2 chamber flow masters, cowl hood, nitto drag radials, ford racing clutch, 160* thermostat 16 degrees of timing electric fan off 94' t-bird jacobs electronics cap and wires. Edelbrock 1 1/2 inch drop springs. (Best E.T. 14.79@93mph @3000ft)

Dark_5.0 · 11-08-2001, 05:19 PM

To answer you question the 95 5.0 5 speed will spank the 96-98 stang PERIOD!!!

stock vs. stock

blue00gt · 11-08-2001, 09:09 PM

With all the time and money Ford has put into modular engines, believe me, they are not going to be fading away anytime soon.
As for car sales, Ford has sold twice as many Mustangs as all GM F-bodies combined for a few years, and GM's have had a significant power advantage for almost a decade.

Dark_5.0 · 11-08-2001, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by blue00gt:
With all the time and money Ford has put into modular engines, believe me, they are not going to be fading away anytime soon.
As for car sales, Ford has sold twice as many Mustangs as all GM F-bodies combined for a few years, and GM's have had a significant power advantage for almost a decade.

Mark my words the "4.6L"
mod motor wont be in production in 5 years I think they will have a 5.4L or something similar in the near future.

Car sells dont mean anything to me. I was talking performance.

Coupe5oh · 11-09-2001, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PKRWUD:
It's been around for nearly 40 years, it better be easier to modify! The mod engines have only been in production for 11 years, and the aftermarket parts world is only now giving mod engine owners options. In the next 5 years, the 5.0 is going to fade into the past just like carburetors did. i know that there are still plenty of carbed engines around, but 5 years ago, no one believed that there was ever going to be hi-po parts available to take EFI onto the track. At any track you went to, carbs outnumbered EFI by 99 to 1. That's hardly the case these days. The same thing is going to happen with the 5.0. You'll see.

Take care,
-Chris

fade away my *** ! they will be on the aftermarket for a long time to come, and will probaly make new parts, while the 4.6 parts are still being thought about. And 5 yrs ago is'nt that long, there were plenty of fuel injected cars at the track, but alot of the faster all motor mustangs i see nowadays, still run carbs, for example a n/a 331 that ran 10.50 @ 126, canefield heads, 950 carb ect... i saw last friday, lets see a 4.6, or 5.4 do that without a power adder.....

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formerly known "90dpscoupe"
5spd 90lx, 3.27grs, BM fan, alum divesahaft, ADS chip, 160 stat, mac coldair fender, mac h-pipe.
Best e.t-13.91
60'-1.9 (on 225/60/15 firehawks)
mph- 98.70

BilLster · 11-09-2001, 02:01 PM

Hey why the 5.0 lets talk about 5.7+ cubes like my 6.5 .

But i would love a 5.4 out of the new lightning.

get the cheaper one and drop in a 351 stroker.

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89 with 395 single stage n2o .garret t3. 373's Suspention worked out finnaly . need cage .

aonick · 11-09-2001, 02:27 PM

ya im about to start workin on my 351 that is in my back yard that the is big and bad

haulin'balz · 11-09-2001, 02:36 PM

First off, I'd say the stock 5.0 over stock 4.6 every time. Secondly, I agree w/ 5.0 HO, that Ford will stop production on the 4.6's in the very near future and move back to 5+ liters for their V8 stangs.

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'90 5.0 LX - heads, intake, cam, fuel delivery, gears, full exhaust, pulleys, ignition, drag springs, front brake upgrade, a/c delete, K&N cone filter charger.......and much more!
1/4 mile: 12.29 @113
60': 1.78

my ride

Mach 1 · 11-09-2001, 03:24 PM

The 302 is a classic. It aint going anywhere. It will be around for a long time in one form or another. Sure the 4.6's will gain in popularity as the 5.0 gets older and out of production longer, but I only think you will see people with big pocket books modifying the 4.6's seriously. it took over 20 years of 302 production before the high performance parts were relatively cheap and available. And the 4.6 is more complex.....could be 30 for it to get as popular?

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1993 GT/AOD
'93 Mustang GT

1BAD89 · 11-09-2001, 06:39 PM

***Ford has sold twice as many Mustangs as all GM F-bodies combined for a few years,

Blah, Blah, Blah. Most of them were V6 mustang sold to women.

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-1989 GT, not stock.
-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator,

blue00gt · 11-09-2001, 06:39 PM

I think you will be more likely to see SMALLER engines in the Mustang in the future. Some folks think that Ford may be leaning toward something like the supercharged 4.0L V8 like they put in Jaguars...
As long as the horsepower is there and there is room to add more without breaking the bank...

Unit 5302 · 11-09-2001, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1BAD89:
***Ford has sold twice as many Mustangs as all GM F-bodies combined for a few years,

Blah, Blah, Blah. Most of them were V6 mustang sold to women.

Most of the F bodies sold have been V-6's too. I don't see the point here. Ford has been holding down the production of the GT's due to lack of production capacity of the 4.6L because it's used in the F series trucks as well. I don't remember the last time Ford tried to push the GT to tell you the truth.

Unit 5302 · 11-09-2001, 08:06 PM

Oh, and back to the topic, the 1994-1995 5.0L will smoke the 1996-1998 4.6L SOHC GT's stock for stock. You can definately make the older GT's fast with 99 GT top end parts and an inexpensive Bullitt intake, but the 5.0 has a huge aftermarket as well.

This topic is pretty old. The 5.0L WILL fade. Ford has virtually assured this of happening with the lack of aftermarket street blocks. The R302 cannot be used for anything but track duty, and there are no other 302 blocks in production that I know of. The new GT's will outrun most stock 5.0's and they respond very favorably to forced induction. I think the 4.6L's future is very much in question. With the Crown Vic, Thunderbird, Mark series, RWD Town Car's, RWD Cougar's, Grand Marquis, and the use of the 4.6L being questioned in the future Mustangs, Ford will most likely kill production. The new 5.0L they are talking about is basically the equivelent of the 289 vs the 302, so it's up to you on whether you want to disillusion yourselfs into believing the 5.0L is somehow making a comeback. Let's get real here. The real 5.0, the 302 will never again be produced. Ford even scrapped the tooling for it. Quite frankly, I find it disrepectful that they would even think about re-using the 5.0 as a totally different engine. The 302 was probably one of the best engines Ford has ever built. It's longevity and versitility are hard to argue with.

NO SLO PK · 11-10-2001, 01:17 AM

Hey Unit, well said.

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Russ L
'91 LX
Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.

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11-08-2001, 02:32 AM	#2
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	The 5.0. BUT 5 years from now the 4.6's will be spanking the 5.0's. Although that statement won't find alot of support here, it is true. Take care, -Chris ------------------ Retired Moderator MustangNet My site: Peckerwoods Pit Stop My teams site: Jim Porter Racing RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR HEY !!! Are you ASE Certified ??? If you are, ask me about iATN.

11-08-2001, 04:51 AM	#3
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	what? basically its making more power now 99-02) then a stock 5.0, but in the world of stangs, most of us modify, and the 5.0 is imo, the best motor to modify and kicks some arse! ------------------ formerly known "90dpscoupe" 5spd 90lx, 3.27grs, BM fan, alum divesahaft, ADS chip, 160 stat, mac coldair fender, mac h-pipe. Best e.t-13.91 60'-1.9 (on 225/60/15 firehawks) mph- 98.70

11-08-2001, 05:52 AM	#4
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	It's been around for nearly 40 years, it better be easier to modify! The mod engines have only been in production for 11 years, and the aftermarket parts world is only now giving mod engine owners options. In the next 5 years, the 5.0 is going to fade into the past just like carburetors did. i know that there are still plenty of carbed engines around, but 5 years ago, no one believed that there was ever going to be hi-po parts available to take EFI onto the track. At any track you went to, carbs outnumbered EFI by 99 to 1. That's hardly the case these days. The same thing is going to happen with the 5.0. You'll see. Take care, -Chris ------------------ Retired Moderator MustangNet My site: Peckerwoods Pit Stop My teams site: Jim Porter Racing RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR HEY !!! Are you ASE Certified ??? If you are, ask me about iATN.

11-08-2001, 08:47 AM	#5
Chevyguy Backyard Mechanic/Chemist Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Acton MA USA Posts: 435	Good point Chris, Any motor that is no longer in production in new vehicles will ultimately fade in popularity. The Small block Chevy may be the only holdout and those mostly will live on in street rods and 69 Camaros. Everyone else will run LS-1 or Modular motors even for most swaps as low mileage motor/trans swaps will be harder to find in wrecking yards. The 10th aniversary of the last NEW 5.0 mustang is coming soon! ------------------ Frank W 90 5.0 LX Notch MAC 2.5"cat bk FMS alu ds, MSD coil, MAC shifter 2.73 gears user site My 90 Notch and 88 2.3 Notch(88 for sale) 74 Chevy Laguna Type S-3 305 now 454 soon My web site

11-08-2001, 04:29 PM	#6
aonick Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: baton rouge la usa Posts: 42	the new 5.0 will in 2005??

11-08-2001, 05:18 PM	#7
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	UMMMM...... well IMO the 5.0 will always be popular and will always be able to hang with a 4.6. In racing $$+know how=speed I dont care what size engine you have. I would rather have a pushrod engine anyday cause they are easier to work on. I think if anything the 4.6 will fade out and wont even be here in 5 years. Ford is gonna have to pull there head out there *** and realize that chevy is gonna kill them in sells in the coming years if they dont give us ford guys something with more cubic inches and power from the factory. I guarantee you that whatever Chevy brings out to replace the camaro will have an LS1 or a LS6 or some sort of big cube V8. Sure the camaro is gone now but when it returns "Watchout" ------------------ 88 mustang gt convertible bored to 306 BBk equal length headers, mac cold air fender kit, 3.73 FMS gears, Steeds Tri-ax shifter, Steeda underdrive pullies, Custom off road X-pipe, 2 chamber flow masters, cowl hood, nitto drag radials, ford racing clutch, 160* thermostat 16 degrees of timing electric fan off 94' t-bird jacobs electronics cap and wires. Edelbrock 1 1/2 inch drop springs. (Best E.T. 14.79@93mph @3000ft)

11-08-2001, 05:19 PM	#8
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	To answer you question the 95 5.0 5 speed will spank the 96-98 stang PERIOD!!! stock vs. stock

11-08-2001, 09:09 PM	#9
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	With all the time and money Ford has put into modular engines, believe me, they are not going to be fading away anytime soon. As for car sales, Ford has sold twice as many Mustangs as all GM F-bodies combined for a few years, and GM's have had a significant power advantage for almost a decade.

11-09-2001, 02:01 PM	#12
BilLster Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ontario canada Posts: 446	Hey why the 5.0 lets talk about 5.7+ cubes like my 6.5 . But i would love a 5.4 out of the new lightning. get the cheaper one and drop in a 351 stroker. ------------------ 89 with 395 single stage n2o .garret t3. 373's Suspention worked out finnaly . need cage .

11-09-2001, 02:27 PM	#13
aonick Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: baton rouge la usa Posts: 42	ya im about to start workin on my 351 that is in my back yard that the is big and bad

11-09-2001, 02:36 PM	#14
haulin'balz The Notorious One Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NY Posts: 51	First off, I'd say the stock 5.0 over stock 4.6 every time. Secondly, I agree w/ 5.0 HO, that Ford will stop production on the 4.6's in the very near future and move back to 5+ liters for their V8 stangs. ------------------ '90 5.0 LX - heads, intake, cam, fuel delivery, gears, full exhaust, pulleys, ignition, drag springs, front brake upgrade, a/c delete, K&N cone filter charger.......and much more! 1/4 mile: 12.29 @113 60': 1.78 my ride

11-09-2001, 03:24 PM	#15
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	The 302 is a classic. It aint going anywhere. It will be around for a long time in one form or another. Sure the 4.6's will gain in popularity as the 5.0 gets older and out of production longer, but I only think you will see people with big pocket books modifying the 4.6's seriously. it took over 20 years of 302 production before the high performance parts were relatively cheap and available. And the 4.6 is more complex.....could be 30 for it to get as popular? ------------------ 1993 GT/AOD '93 Mustang GT

11-09-2001, 06:39 PM	#16
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	***Ford has sold twice as many Mustangs as all GM F-bodies combined for a few years, Blah, Blah, Blah. Most of them were V6 mustang sold to women. ------------------ -1989 GT, not stock. -2000 Camaro SS-A4, -1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator,

11-09-2001, 08:06 PM	#19
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Oh, and back to the topic, the 1994-1995 5.0L will smoke the 1996-1998 4.6L SOHC GT's stock for stock. You can definately make the older GT's fast with 99 GT top end parts and an inexpensive Bullitt intake, but the 5.0 has a huge aftermarket as well. This topic is pretty old. The 5.0L WILL fade. Ford has virtually assured this of happening with the lack of aftermarket street blocks. The R302 cannot be used for anything but track duty, and there are no other 302 blocks in production that I know of. The new GT's will outrun most stock 5.0's and they respond very favorably to forced induction. I think the 4.6L's future is very much in question. With the Crown Vic, Thunderbird, Mark series, RWD Town Car's, RWD Cougar's, Grand Marquis, and the use of the 4.6L being questioned in the future Mustangs, Ford will most likely kill production. The new 5.0L they are talking about is basically the equivelent of the 289 vs the 302, so it's up to you on whether you want to disillusion yourselfs into believing the 5.0L is somehow making a comeback. Let's get real here. The real 5.0, the 302 will never again be produced. Ford even scrapped the tooling for it. Quite frankly, I find it disrepectful that they would even think about re-using the 5.0 as a totally different engine. The 302 was probably one of the best engines Ford has ever built. It's longevity and versitility are hard to argue with.

11-10-2001, 01:17 AM	#20
NO SLO PK Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Arcadia, CA, USA Posts: 731	Hey Unit, well said. ------------------ Russ L '91 LX Procharger, 3 row intercooler, extrude honed Cobra intake, Mac full Length Headers, 30# inj., 73mm C&L, 75mm tb, E303 cam, 289 rods, ported E7 heads, MSD, T-Rex w/255 lph Walbro, 5 lug conversion, Cobra R wheels, 3.27 gears and Moser Axles.