Cam Experts... Do Your Part!!! It's A 351w

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-24-2001, 10:56 PM

I am going to purchase a stock 351w from a junkyard, & build it up. here's what i want,

351w Short block
stock 5.0 fuel lines
trick flow twisted wedge heads
trick flow "351" intake
24lb injectors
pro-m 77mm mass air
trick flow 1.6 Rocker arms
crane hi-6 ignition & ps-91 coil
190lph pump & AFPR
Stock 5.0 t-5 (when she blows, probably a Termec TKO)
bbk 70mm t-body & egr
3.55 or 3.73 gears
drop engine mounts
new flywheel
new distributor
new (or used) oil pan

NOW FOR A CAM, HOW MUCH LIFT COULD I HAVE WITHOUT PISTON-TO-VALVE PROBLEM?
I want to stick to the trick flow name & was wondering if I should use

stage 1(Duration@.050 221*/225*, lift.499/.510, Lobe seperation 112*)

Stage 2(duration 224*/232*, lift.542/.563,
lobe sep 112*)

or stage 3( duration236*/248*, lift .574/.595, lobe 110*) cam?

I dont want to cut the pistons, but might get 10-12:1 compression pistons(dont know what the stock 351 has?)
also for pushrods i have no clue.
I will use the stock 351 until funds grow, with the exception of fuel injection, but with the stock 5.0 19lb injs
If you can suggest any other things i missed.
thanks!

If You read this SKYMAN Please tell me where/who makes them i can get those Drop motor mounts

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).
My Stang

Skyman · 02-25-2001, 12:24 AM

I found the drop motor on the corral. I would try contacting muslce motors, I THINK they have them or can get them. info@musclemotors.com and then just ask him. Tell him Skyler sent u he'll get u a good price.

Im wondering the same thing also. I think .540 lift is max with the TFS heads and stock pistons. Im probably going to buy a roller 351w 11:1 short block though for $1300.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and more.
-Videos (MPEG)-
0-110MPH In car view (963k)
All Throttle through 3 gears! (497k)
Tire Smoking Burnout! (218k)

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-25-2001, 12:25 AM

Anyone?

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).
My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!)
Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor Under The Sto

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-25-2001, 12:27 AM

Sorry Sky, Didnt See You Replied

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).
My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!)
Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor Under The S

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-25-2001, 12:32 AM

Sorry, My Sig Keeps Screwing up.
GOTTA GET IT RIGHT!!!

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).
My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!)
Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-25-2001, 01:32 AM

what would be the bet cam for this combo?

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).
My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!)
Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-25-2001, 02:33 AM

Anyone Know Of A Good Cam?
Please Help, Or Ill Just Have To Sit Here Listening to AC DC Until I Here A Reply, Which Isnt Too Bad

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).
My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!)
Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-25-2001, 02:53 AM

but i know what im going to do....
im gona ride on, ride on, ride on, standin on the edge of the road, ride on, thumb in the air, ride on, one of these days.. im gona change my evel ways..
oops

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).
My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!)
Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor

feuliegt302 · 02-25-2001, 03:13 AM

if your looking for some low end grunt id go with stage 1,#2looks about the max for clearance and i wouldnt wind the bottem end past 6000 to much

macx · 02-25-2001, 10:09 AM

I'd check with the cam mfg's - they're the experts. Tell them what you want in the way of engine characteristics and performance. I'd try www.compcams.com, www.lunaticams.com (or Holley site, they own Lunati) or www.cranecams.com Crane & Lunati have lots of Ford experience, and have pretty good descriptions of their cam's operating characteristics in the online catalogues.

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-25-2001, 03:55 PM

Would the TFS #1 cam be good with this combo?
I want to run low 12's with street tire & high 11's on slicks. am i asking too much?

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!).
My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!)
Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-25-2001, 10:56 PM

COME ON GUYS....
SOMEONE KNOWS.... I HOPE

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 02-25-2001, 11:18 PM

OK Im starting a new cam post, so please reply under "Best Cam For A 351"
thanks

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02-24-2001, 10:56 PM	#1
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	Cam Experts... Do Your Part!!! It's A 351w I am going to purchase a stock 351w from a junkyard, & build it up. here's what i want, 351w Short block stock 5.0 fuel lines trick flow twisted wedge heads trick flow "351" intake 24lb injectors pro-m 77mm mass air trick flow 1.6 Rocker arms crane hi-6 ignition & ps-91 coil 190lph pump & AFPR Stock 5.0 t-5 (when she blows, probably a Termec TKO) bbk 70mm t-body & egr 3.55 or 3.73 gears drop engine mounts new flywheel new distributor new (or used) oil pan NOW FOR A CAM, HOW MUCH LIFT COULD I HAVE WITHOUT PISTON-TO-VALVE PROBLEM? I want to stick to the trick flow name & was wondering if I should use stage 1(Duration@.050 221/225, lift.499/.510, Lobe seperation 112) Stage 2(duration 224/232, lift.542/.563, lobe sep 112) or stage 3( duration236/248, lift .574/.595, lobe 110*) cam? I dont want to cut the pistons, but might get 10-12:1 compression pistons(dont know what the stock 351 has?) also for pushrods i have no clue. I will use the stock 351 until funds grow, with the exception of fuel injection, but with the stock 5.0 19lb injs If you can suggest any other things i missed. thanks! If You read this SKYMAN Please tell me where/who makes them i can get those Drop motor mounts ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!). My Stang

02-25-2001, 12:24 AM	#2
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	I found the drop motor on the corral. I would try contacting muslce motors, I THINK they have them or can get them. info@musclemotors.com and then just ask him. Tell him Skyler sent u he'll get u a good price. Im wondering the same thing also. I think .540 lift is max with the TFS heads and stock pistons. Im probably going to buy a roller 351w 11:1 short block though for $1300. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406-TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and more. -Videos (MPEG)- 0-110MPH In car view (963k) All Throttle through 3 gears! (497k) Tire Smoking Burnout! (218k)

02-25-2001, 12:25 AM	#3
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	Anyone? ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!). My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!) Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor Under The Sto

02-25-2001, 12:27 AM	#4
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	Sorry Sky, Didnt See You Replied ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!). My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!) Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor Under The S

02-25-2001, 12:32 AM	#5
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	Sorry, My Sig Keeps Screwing up. GOTTA GET IT RIGHT!!! ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!). My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!) Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor

02-25-2001, 01:32 AM	#6
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	what would be the bet cam for this combo? ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!). My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!) Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor

02-25-2001, 02:33 AM	#7
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	Anyone Know Of A Good Cam? Please Help, Or Ill Just Have To Sit Here Listening to AC DC Until I Here A Reply, Which Isnt Too Bad ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!). My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!) Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor

02-25-2001, 02:53 AM	#8
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	but i know what im going to do.... im gona ride on, ride on, ride on, standin on the edge of the road, ride on, thumb in the air, ride on, one of these days.. im gona change my evel ways.. oops ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!). My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!) Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor

02-25-2001, 03:13 AM	#9
feuliegt302 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3	if your looking for some low end grunt id go with stage 1,#2looks about the max for clearance and i wouldnt wind the bottem end past 6000 to much

02-25-2001, 10:09 AM	#10
macx Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Gordonville MO USA Posts: 448	I'd check with the cam mfg's - they're the experts. Tell them what you want in the way of engine characteristics and performance. I'd try www.compcams.com, www.lunaticams.com (or Holley site, they own Lunati) or www.cranecams.com Crane & Lunati have lots of Ford experience, and have pretty good descriptions of their cam's operating characteristics in the online catalogues.

02-25-2001, 03:55 PM	#11
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	Would the TFS #1 cam be good with this combo? I want to run low 12's with street tire & high 11's on slicks. am i asking too much? ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe (Sounds Mean), K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box, Removed air silendcer), 198.9 rwhp @4200 (235 Motor!!), 285 lbs-ft @2900 (336 Motor!!!). My Stang This Is What Dynomax Ultra-Flo's Do (Soon To Be On My Stang!) Future Plans Call For A 351 Windsor

02-25-2001, 10:56 PM	#12
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	COME ON GUYS.... SOMEONE KNOWS.... I HOPE

02-25-2001, 11:18 PM	#13
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	OK Im starting a new cam post, so please reply under "Best Cam For A 351" thanks