Quad shocks...Keep em or ditch em?

Stang_Crazy · 04-08-2003, 02:07 PM

I'm in the process of detailing my rear suspension and want to get rid of the quad shocks. I already had to flip them to fit my tires but now I want them gone. I know they help hold the axle and keep it from moving but will I notice a big diffrence with them removed?

Also, will my launches and 60' times be affected if I don't have the quad shocks?

IMPULSERACING · 04-08-2003, 02:28 PM

If you have upgraded control arms you can remove them. If you're running stock control arms and you remove them you will get wheel hop.

Ackbar00 · 04-08-2003, 03:52 PM

Ditch em.

84LX89GT · 04-08-2003, 04:01 PM

A car with quad shocks may have slight wheel hop anyway, but you'll never feel it because it's absorbed and dampened by the quads. Take it off and your rear axle with hop to the point where it feels like it's going to break. How do i know? My car had the quads taken off with stock bushings and it was so horrible i couldn't accelerate in 1st gear. I just installed springs, polyurethane bushings, adjustable control arms, ALL just to GET RID of the wheel hop and help me hook up. a primary factor was i couldn't use 1st gear ever, and my best 60 foot time ever was a 2.14 with a 13.99 run @100.47.

For your own sanity, retain the quads, unless you don't mind severe punishing wheel hop.

Stang_Crazy · 04-08-2003, 07:38 PM

Since I'm still running the stock control arms, I guess I'll have to keep the quads for now

It isn't a terribly big issue if they stay. I was just wondering if it was ok to get rid of them. For now, they stay because I don't want to deal with any wheel hop. I guess I better get back in the garage so I can get the suspension cleaned up and finally DRIVE!!

drtbiker · 04-08-2003, 10:08 PM

hey, i got a question which shock is exactly the quad shock. I am so dumb when it comes to suspension. I just got new control arms and they say to remove the quad shocks but i dont even know which ones they are.

thanks

GhettoPop · 04-08-2003, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drtbiker
hey, i got a question which shock is exactly the quad shock. I am so dumb when it comes to suspension. I just got new control arms and they say to remove the quad shocks but i dont even know which ones they are.

thanks

Which control arms did you buy? Look under your car on the rear axle. The regular rear shock looks vertical, the small shock connected to the axle sort of horizontally, is the quad shock.

drtbiker · 04-08-2003, 11:00 PM

ok thats what i though, well x2c was having a sale on corral so i bought the uppers and lowers for 139 shipped to my door

GhettoPop · 04-09-2003, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by drtbiker
ok thats what i though, well x2c was having a sale on corral so i bought the uppers and lowers for 139 shipped to my door

whats the website?

PeTr0 · 04-09-2003, 06:31 PM

I just put it some Mega Bite Jr.'s and took off the quads because they were trashed anyways. I have no noticably wheel hop.

drtbiker · 04-09-2003, 08:38 PM

umm i am not sure but look on corral in the classifieds

red82gt · 04-10-2003, 02:18 AM

I had no wheel hop without quad shocks.
Here's my theory-they are to compensate for the stupid oval bushings in the stock 83-present lower control arms. 79-82 cars have proper round bushings on both sides of the lower control arm and slapper bars, but when they switched to the oval bushings in 83, the slapper bars no longer worked to get rid of the wheel hop so they changed to the quad shock design in mid 84.
So if you are using a lower control arm with round bushings than you shouldn't need the quads.

DemonGT · 04-11-2003, 06:52 AM

i have different lower control arms and 50/50 shocks in back...with stock pony wheels and worn out tires there no wheel hop..but with my aftermarket wheels and nitto DR's it has wheel hop super bad...

i mainly removed them cause they were shot anyway..one was even cracked in half...but iv been thinken of buying some new ones to put on upside down to clear my tires..that or get aftermarket upper arms and see if that helps

04-08-2003, 02:07 PM	#1
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	Quad shocks...Keep em or ditch em? I'm in the process of detailing my rear suspension and want to get rid of the quad shocks. I already had to flip them to fit my tires but now I want them gone. I know they help hold the axle and keep it from moving but will I notice a big diffrence with them removed? Also, will my launches and 60' times be affected if I don't have the quad shocks? __________________ ~Dan 2001 SVT Lightning 89' GT : Taking up garage space and waiting for a buyer... Rice Hater's Club - Member #11

04-08-2003, 02:28 PM	#2
IMPULSERACING Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: chicago,IL,USA Posts: 158	If you have upgraded control arms you can remove them. If you're running stock control arms and you remove them you will get wheel hop. __________________ 92' LX Hatch (New Combo Coming Soon) Long-Tubes, Off-road H-Pipe, Pro-Dumps, Auburn Pro, 373:1, Strange Axels c-clip elims, control arms, supersubs, 50/50's, Moroso rear trick springs, no sway bars, 5-Lug Pro-Stars 3 1/2", 8 1/2 26x10.5" MT ET streets, N20 91' LX 5.0 Convertable: CobraR Hood, Cobra Spoiler, Cobra R Rims 2001 Expedition: Brush Guard, Clear Corners, Gen 1 Tail Lites, Carbin Fiber Dash Trim, Billet Aluminum A/C Knobs, Flame Gauges

04-08-2003, 03:52 PM	#3
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	Ditch em. __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

04-08-2003, 04:01 PM	#4
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	A car with quad shocks may have slight wheel hop anyway, but you'll never feel it because it's absorbed and dampened by the quads. Take it off and your rear axle with hop to the point where it feels like it's going to break. How do i know? My car had the quads taken off with stock bushings and it was so horrible i couldn't accelerate in 1st gear. I just installed springs, polyurethane bushings, adjustable control arms, ALL just to GET RID of the wheel hop and help me hook up. a primary factor was i couldn't use 1st gear ever, and my best 60 foot time ever was a 2.14 with a 13.99 run @100.47. For your own sanity, retain the quads, unless you don't mind severe punishing wheel hop. __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

04-08-2003, 07:38 PM	#5
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	Since I'm still running the stock control arms, I guess I'll have to keep the quads for now It isn't a terribly big issue if they stay. I was just wondering if it was ok to get rid of them. For now, they stay because I don't want to deal with any wheel hop. I guess I better get back in the garage so I can get the suspension cleaned up and finally DRIVE!! __________________ ~Dan 2001 SVT Lightning 89' GT : Taking up garage space and waiting for a buyer... Rice Hater's Club - Member #11

04-08-2003, 10:08 PM	#6
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	hey, i got a question which shock is exactly the quad shock. I am so dumb when it comes to suspension. I just got new control arms and they say to remove the quad shocks but i dont even know which ones they are. thanks __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

04-08-2003, 11:00 PM	#8
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	ok thats what i though, well x2c was having a sale on corral so i bought the uppers and lowers for 139 shipped to my door __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

04-09-2003, 08:38 PM	#11
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	umm i am not sure but look on corral in the classifieds __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

04-10-2003, 02:18 AM	#12
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	I had no wheel hop without quad shocks. Here's my theory-they are to compensate for the stupid oval bushings in the stock 83-present lower control arms. 79-82 cars have proper round bushings on both sides of the lower control arm and slapper bars, but when they switched to the oval bushings in 83, the slapper bars no longer worked to get rid of the wheel hop so they changed to the quad shock design in mid 84. So if you are using a lower control arm with round bushings than you shouldn't need the quads. __________________ 393W: AFR 205's, hydraulic roller, TKO600.

04-11-2003, 06:52 AM	#13
DemonGT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 879	i have different lower control arms and 50/50 shocks in back...with stock pony wheels and worn out tires there no wheel hop..but with my aftermarket wheels and nitto DR's it has wheel hop super bad... i mainly removed them cause they were shot anyway..one was even cracked in half...but iv been thinken of buying some new ones to put on upside down to clear my tires..that or get aftermarket upper arms and see if that helps __________________ '91 GT,410W,10.5 to 1 comp,Victor Jr. heads,Victor 5.8 intake,FTI cam,Crane retro fit lifters,Scorpian 1.6 RR's,Melling HV oil pump,MSD distro.,Canton oil pan,FMS flywheel,Romac balancer,FMS timing chain,Accufab 90mm TB,C&L 76mm maf, 42lbers,HD clutch,K&N air filter,Mac long tubes,Pro dumps,powerchamber,FMS 9mm wires,180 thermostat,Ford Racing gauges,5inch Tach,centerline convo pro's,nitto DR's,Pro3i lower control arms,50/50 shocks,3.55 gears,TFS HD diff. cover Next year: Tremec TKO,Spec stage 3 clutch,alum driveshaft,complete fuel system www.angelfire.com/linux/demondan

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