Best NON - Synthetic oil for my motor !!! Give me your advise!

fantozi · 09-05-2001, 11:33 PM

I need to know who makes the BEST NON-Syntheic Oil for my mustang. I bought a new crate motor from FORD and need to break it in so I need good oil!! Tell me what works best and the weight I should use in a hot environment!!

84LX89GT · 09-06-2001, 02:56 AM

I'm guessing the best weight for breaking an engine in is the recommended weight oil. I believe for a 302 it would be 10W30.
I personally like Mobil because even under hard use i've never had it airate and it usually lasts longer than other oils that i've used.
Good luck.

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'84 Mustang 5.0 LX
my LX
'89 Mustang GT
my GT

90'5.0 Conv · 09-06-2001, 11:58 AM

Airate?
I like castrol 10-30

[This message has been edited by 90'5.0 Conv (edited 09-06-2001).]

crewzin · 09-06-2001, 12:04 PM

Absolutely Valvoline 40w Racing Oil.

GodStang · 09-06-2001, 12:14 PM

I live in south carolina and it gets into the 100's and I use 10W-30. Do not use oil from Penn. It is said to have a sediment that will mess up your engine. Valvoline or Havoline is said to be the best. Valvolione is a little better in my opinion.

09-06-2001, 01:00 PM

I've always used/liked Valvoline 10W30!

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

srv1 · 09-06-2001, 05:13 PM

Kendall, havoline, and Castrol 10-30/40. either one to break it in. i have used them all, and the one that doesnt sludge up, is Kendall GT1.

84LX89GT · 09-07-2001, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 90'5.0 Conv:
[B]Airate?
B]

When i refer to airating, i mean that because of oil windage (getting sloshed around by the crank OR because of breaking down and turning from oil to a sludge/vapor). I had an '83 zephyr with the oil level in the middle of the full area and i drove it hard for about 5 minutes straight, which should be no problem because i've done that a million times with other cars. Anyways, i heard a knocking and noticed that my 1500 mile old Kendall oil (standard organic) was now black and there was bubbles in it. Coincidentally i had done an oil change on my dad's Chevy truck ('90 2500) and while he was towing going up a small grade, which should be no problem, he noticed that his oil pressure dropped to zero and he heard engine noise. When he looked at the dipstick, his oil was black and there was bubbles.
Now when both of these vehicles were left to cool down and restarted, there were no problems, oil pressure came back up and the oil was in the level area where it's supposed to be. Another thing i noticed about the Kendall oil is that at oil changes (i used that stuff for about 12,000 combined miles for a couple of vehicles) it was ALOT thicker and blacker than other comparable oils.....
...but that's just my experience and what i was referring to when i said airate.
sorry for the long post.

exgmguy · 09-07-2001, 06:18 PM

aerate is how it's spelt I tink.

I go with Valvoline in my drivers.

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1988 Mustang GT
11.8 @ 123 (7/14/01)
1992 BadAzz Wrangler
1993 Explorer

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Mach 1 · 09-07-2001, 07:02 PM

Castrol GTX gets a thumbs up from me.
I have heard Kendall was a great oil, and have used it in the past, but they dont sell if much where I live.

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1993 GT/AOD
'93 Mustang GT

87horsepower · 09-08-2001, 02:19 AM

Can't go wrong with Valvoline.

egiap's 5.0 · 09-08-2001, 07:53 AM

In Amsoils four ball wear test(astm d4172)havoline does show less wear than valvoline,castrol and mobil-1. After break in why not go with race proven protection of a synthetic oil.

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Mr 5 0 · 09-08-2001, 01:53 PM

fantozi:

You're going to get a ton of opinions here but all I can tell you is that I've used nothing but standard Mobil 10-30 oil in my 1990 5.0 since I bought it brand-new in '90. I changed the original oil & filter at 1000 miles, then changed them both again at 2000.

I've changed the oil and filter (Ford Motorcraft) every 2000 miles - without exception - since then.
When I pulled my valve covers (to change the gaskets) @ 87,000 miles, the heads were shiny clean; no goo, not even discoloration except a tiny bit in one corner and that was very light. My lifters are quiet and my oil pressure remains at 50-60 lbs. on a hot day under a load.

This may not prove Mobil is 'the best' oil, as I change my oil frequently, but I've raced this 5.0, it's seen triple digits fairly often and I've run in hot weather (90 degrees plus) and with all that over eleven years I've never seen the oil pressure drop more than 10 pounds (to around 45) under the worst conditions. Even at 112,000 miles, it doesn't burn oil, no lifter noises and the oil pressure remains constant and normal.
I like Mobil 10-30 and I recommend it.

93CobraR · 09-09-2001, 08:49 PM

Valvoline oil is JUNK. I work for a place that changes oil and we do about 100 cars a day. Cars that come in that had been using Valvoline, I always notice that the filters are all gummed up and the oil gets real thick and takes longer to draing verse others. Our main oil is Mobil and from what I have seen it is one of the best oils out there. I personally don't use it, I use Kendall 20-50 and think that it's a pretty good oil too. Also amongs all the other oils, I usually see that Pennzoil is'nt that bad. Castrol GTX is almost like a Valvoline but it gets really dirty fast. I don't see alot of people using Quaker State anymore so it's hard to compare it. This is just my opinion based on what I see everyday.

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Best time 12.759
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[This message has been edited by 93CobraR (edited 09-10-2001).]

Mach 1 · 09-10-2001, 03:05 PM

Just a thought on all these oils that get dirty fast - One of the most important jobs of motor oil is to remove dirt from the engine. They are supposed to get dirty, this is why you change the oil.

So, if a oil gets dirty faster, isnt it working better?

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1993 GT/AOD
'93 Mustang GT

09-05-2001, 11:33 PM	#1
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09-06-2001, 02:56 AM	#2
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	I'm guessing the best weight for breaking an engine in is the recommended weight oil. I believe for a 302 it would be 10W30. I personally like Mobil because even under hard use i've never had it airate and it usually lasts longer than other oils that i've used. Good luck. ------------------ previous name: 84stangLX '84 Mustang 5.0 LX my LX '89 Mustang GT my GT

09-06-2001, 11:58 AM	#3
90'5.0 Conv Long time member in and out Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Albany, Ga Posts: 343	Airate? I like castrol 10-30 [This message has been edited by 90'5.0 Conv (edited 09-06-2001).]

09-06-2001, 12:04 PM	#4
crewzin Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Sour Lake, TX Posts: 211	Absolutely Valvoline 40w Racing Oil.

09-06-2001, 12:14 PM	#5
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	I live in south carolina and it gets into the 100's and I use 10W-30. Do not use oil from Penn. It is said to have a sediment that will mess up your engine. Valvoline or Havoline is said to be the best. Valvolione is a little better in my opinion.

09-06-2001, 01:00 PM	#6
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	I've always used/liked Valvoline 10W30! ------------------ '90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

09-06-2001, 05:13 PM	#7
srv1 Get down..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Room 103 Posts: 2,095	Kendall, havoline, and Castrol 10-30/40. either one to break it in. i have used them all, and the one that doesnt sludge up, is Kendall GT1.

09-07-2001, 06:18 PM	#9
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	aerate is how it's spelt I tink. I go with Valvoline in my drivers. ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT 11.8 @ 123 (7/14/01) 1992 BadAzz Wrangler 1993 Explorer See my car at: www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?179

09-07-2001, 07:02 PM	#10
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Castrol GTX gets a thumbs up from me. I have heard Kendall was a great oil, and have used it in the past, but they dont sell if much where I live. ------------------ 1993 GT/AOD '93 Mustang GT

09-08-2001, 02:19 AM	#11
87horsepower Registered Member Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Florida Posts: 365	Can't go wrong with Valvoline.

09-08-2001, 07:53 AM	#12
egiap's 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Mansfield, OH. Posts: 113	In Amsoils four ball wear test(astm d4172)havoline does show less wear than valvoline,castrol and mobil-1. After break in why not go with race proven protection of a synthetic oil. ------------------ Edward VanCura, Amsoil dealer. For information about amsoil synthetic oil and lubes leave me a message. Ask about preffered customer program and buy at dealer cost.

09-08-2001, 01:53 PM	#13
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	fantozi: You're going to get a ton of opinions here but all I can tell you is that I've used nothing but standard Mobil 10-30 oil in my 1990 5.0 since I bought it brand-new in '90. I changed the original oil & filter at 1000 miles, then changed them both again at 2000. I've changed the oil and filter (Ford Motorcraft) every 2000 miles - without exception - since then. When I pulled my valve covers (to change the gaskets) @ 87,000 miles, the heads were shiny clean; no goo, not even discoloration except a tiny bit in one corner and that was very light. My lifters are quiet and my oil pressure remains at 50-60 lbs. on a hot day under a load. This may not prove Mobil is 'the best' oil, as I change my oil frequently, but I've raced this 5.0, it's seen triple digits fairly often and I've run in hot weather (90 degrees plus) and with all that over eleven years I've never seen the oil pressure drop more than 10 pounds (to around 45) under the worst conditions. Even at 112,000 miles, it doesn't burn oil, no lifter noises and the oil pressure remains constant and normal. I like Mobil 10-30 and I recommend it.

09-09-2001, 08:49 PM	#14
93CobraR Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,575	Valvoline oil is JUNK. I work for a place that changes oil and we do about 100 cars a day. Cars that come in that had been using Valvoline, I always notice that the filters are all gummed up and the oil gets real thick and takes longer to draing verse others. Our main oil is Mobil and from what I have seen it is one of the best oils out there. I personally don't use it, I use Kendall 20-50 and think that it's a pretty good oil too. Also amongs all the other oils, I usually see that Pennzoil is'nt that bad. Castrol GTX is almost like a Valvoline but it gets really dirty fast. I don't see alot of people using Quaker State anymore so it's hard to compare it. This is just my opinion based on what I see everyday. ------------------ 87 GT, Cobra R's,GT-40 heads,Crane 2031,1.7's, Edelbrock intake, long tubes,BBK cold air, Mass air,pulleys,Pro 5.0, King Cobra,Lakewood Lift Bars,50/50's,subframes, 4.10's. Best time 12.759 Best MPH 106.79 Best 60' 1.695 Visit my site at: http://www.geocities.com/cobrar93_2000/MyPage.html [This message has been edited by 93CobraR (edited 09-10-2001).]

09-10-2001, 03:05 PM	#15
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Just a thought on all these oils that get dirty fast - One of the most important jobs of motor oil is to remove dirt from the engine. They are supposed to get dirty, this is why you change the oil. So, if a oil gets dirty faster, isnt it working better? ------------------ 1993 GT/AOD '93 Mustang GT