Throttle response enhancer

avbcon12 · 09-06-2001, 01:00 PM

has anybody used the throttle response enhancer that is available from summit racing?
does it work?
im talking about the one that plugs inline of the TPS and harness. it sells for $90.

thanks for the replys
Adam

slo95 · 09-07-2001, 01:24 PM

I think a better less expensive way to improve throttle response is that spacer on the cable trick i read on one of these sites. It is suppose to take up the slack in the throttle cable and give better response. a buck for the spacer, vs. 90 for some plug in thing? try the spacer first.

Mach 1 · 09-07-2001, 07:22 PM

Throttle response Enhancer? Your joking, right?

Do yourself a favor and save your money.

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1993 GT/AOD
'93 Mustang GT

elma22 · 09-07-2001, 08:19 PM

Slo95
Where can you get that cable spacer? I was looking for it before but couldn't fing it.
Thanks

slo95 · 09-10-2001, 07:09 PM

here is a link from another site, hope it helps... http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/fcar/99pedals.htm

PKRWUD · 09-10-2001, 09:08 PM

How funny! I've been doing that, in one form or another, for more than 20 years! First car I did it to was my '69 SS Chevelle, around 1979 or so. I don't know about the "nylon spacer", but i always found something. This is one place where the ricers have us beat. Every one I work on has a throttle cable adjustment under the hood. Really impresses my customers when their car jumps when they touch the gas pedal

Take care
~Chris

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Capri306 · 09-10-2001, 09:34 PM

Better get some Z-wax, Motor Pud, and Shmuck-50 to go with that...oh, should prolly check the muffler bearings and blinker fluid while we're at it.

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91evilstang · 09-10-2001, 09:58 PM

I dont know a whole lot about the throttle response enhancer but i dont think you guys getting exactly what its for.You guys are talking about making the initial touch of the gas pedal more "touchy".The throttle response enhancer tricks your computer into thinking your throttle is at "wide open throttle" at 70% open by feeding a steeper curve of voltage from your tps.Reaching wot as quickly as possible can be very important on the road course coming out of a turn or on the drag strip trying to shift as fast as possible without power shifting.I think it would be a good idea in some applications.

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91GT Flowmaster 2 chambers,off road H pipe,mac equalength headers,F303 cam,high lift valve springs ,svo 1.6 roller rockers,19*timing,410's,BBK cold air kit,hurst shifter, Pullys,World class T5 MSD 6al box. Ran 13.5@101 with stock headers and air box.

PKRWUD · 09-11-2001, 05:14 AM

It takes the slop out of your throttle cable, period. You're reading way too much into it. The only difference you or anybody else will ever notice is a more responsive throttle via the gas pedal. It doesn't alter the throttle itself at all. It doesn't change any angles, or do anything at a different time or place. It takes the slop out of your cable. If you believe anything else, you have some serious issues to deal with.

Okay, I'm sorry. I just posted this and reread your post, and realized you are not referring to the spacer-in-the-cable website SLO95 provided a link to. Where is there more info on the item you are referring to? I'm curious to read about this.

Take care
~Chris

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MustangNet

My site: JimPorterRacing

RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR

HEY !!! Are you ASE Certified ??? If you are, ask me about iATN. The best tool you'll ever have, and it's free !!!

[This message has been edited by PKRWUD (edited 09-11-2001).]

[This message has been edited by PKRWUD (edited 09-11-2001).]

HiFlow5 0 · 09-11-2001, 07:56 AM

i know mustangs unlimited sells it. heres the discreption that goes along with it from their catalog:

"at 60% throttle, the unit is activated and tells the computer that the engine is at WOT. by creating this signal through the TPS, it then delivers max fuel and timing as if the car were at WOT. the result is an immediate improvement in throttle feel and maximum engine performance without mashing the pedal to the floor. cars perform normally below 60% throttle."

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89 GT AOD w/ shift kit, B&M rachet shifter, Trickflow intake, Crane (E-type) cam, 70Tb, 75MAF, 1.6 Rockers, Pulleys, MAC headers and H-pipe, Dynomax mufflers, K&N, 3 core radiator, white face gauges, custom interior, cobra R rims
MY89GT

Mach 1 · 09-12-2001, 07:37 AM

This is one of the stupidest gimmicks I have seen.
If you want your computer and engine to perform like its at WOT, then push your litle foot down farther and save your $50.00

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1993 GT/AOD
'93 Mustang GT

Matt Harwood · 09-12-2001, 11:01 AM

I can't see how dumping extra fuel (as happens at WOT) will help at 60% throttle. If you want to improve throttle response, set the timing as advanced as you can, and make sure your TPS is properly adjusted.

By the way, I'd rather have a smooth progressive throttle rather than an "on-off" switch under my foot.

Some makers of cheap, underpowered cars (Buick and Oldsmobile are big offenders in this department) use an aggressive step-off cam on their throttle bodies to give the poor sap of an owner the impression of horsepower. They step on the gas, and the first few millimeters of travel opens the throttle disproportionately far to make the car "lunge" off the line like it has more power. Pushing it to the floor, however, reveals the same anemic GM V6 wheeze we've all come to despise. Just a trick, no performance gain. At all.

By the way, has everybody seen the BMW films available at BMW.com? I heartily recommend them for anyone into cars--the driving is flat-out awesome!

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Matt Harwood
Harwood Performance Engineering
Cleveland, OH
http://www.harwoodperformance.bizland.com

1993 LX coupe: built 342, GT-40X heads, ported Cobra intake, JBA headers, 3.55s, etc., etc., etc.

FOR SALE: 1997 Ranger Splash Supercab: 1995 Cobra 5.0L, 8 PSI Kenne-Bell supercharger, Tremec 3550. 319 HP @ the rear wheels. Stock wheels, not lowered. The ultimate sleeper?

Jeb_Bush_2000 · 09-12-2001, 07:10 PM

Vipers have touchy throttles, too.

09-06-2001, 01:00 PM	#1
avbcon12 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 391	Throttle response enhancer has anybody used the throttle response enhancer that is available from summit racing? does it work? im talking about the one that plugs inline of the TPS and harness. it sells for $90. thanks for the replys Adam

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09-07-2001, 01:24 PM	#2
slo95 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 168	I think a better less expensive way to improve throttle response is that spacer on the cable trick i read on one of these sites. It is suppose to take up the slack in the throttle cable and give better response. a buck for the spacer, vs. 90 for some plug in thing? try the spacer first.

09-07-2001, 07:22 PM	#3
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Throttle response Enhancer? Your joking, right? Do yourself a favor and save your money. ------------------ 1993 GT/AOD '93 Mustang GT

09-07-2001, 08:19 PM	#4
elma22 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 45	Slo95 Where can you get that cable spacer? I was looking for it before but couldn't fing it. Thanks

09-10-2001, 07:09 PM	#5
slo95 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 168	here is a link from another site, hope it helps... http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/fcar/99pedals.htm

09-10-2001, 09:08 PM	#6
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	How funny! I've been doing that, in one form or another, for more than 20 years! First car I did it to was my '69 SS Chevelle, around 1979 or so. I don't know about the "nylon spacer", but i always found something. This is one place where the ricers have us beat. Every one I work on has a throttle cable adjustment under the hood. Really impresses my customers when their car jumps when they touch the gas pedal Take care ~Chris ------------------ Retired Moderator MustangNet My site: JimPorterRacing RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR HEY !!! Are you ASE Certified ??? If you are, ask me about iATN. The best tool you'll ever have, and it's free !!!

09-10-2001, 09:34 PM	#7
Capri306 Moderator Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA Posts: 1,001	Better get some Z-wax, Motor Pud, and Shmuck-50 to go with that...oh, should prolly check the muffler bearings and blinker fluid while we're at it. ------------------ Capri306, Moderator, The Mustang Works Online 1979 Mercury Capri, 5.0L -- C4 -- 2.73 1987 Mustang LX Notch

09-10-2001, 09:58 PM	#8
91evilstang Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: lafayette IN USA Posts: 48	I dont know a whole lot about the throttle response enhancer but i dont think you guys getting exactly what its for.You guys are talking about making the initial touch of the gas pedal more "touchy".The throttle response enhancer tricks your computer into thinking your throttle is at "wide open throttle" at 70% open by feeding a steeper curve of voltage from your tps.Reaching wot as quickly as possible can be very important on the road course coming out of a turn or on the drag strip trying to shift as fast as possible without power shifting.I think it would be a good idea in some applications. ------------------ 91GT Flowmaster 2 chambers,off road H pipe,mac equalength headers,F303 cam,high lift valve springs ,svo 1.6 roller rockers,19*timing,410's,BBK cold air kit,hurst shifter, Pullys,World class T5 MSD 6al box. Ran 13.5@101 with stock headers and air box.

09-11-2001, 05:14 AM	#9
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	It takes the slop out of your throttle cable, period. You're reading way too much into it. The only difference you or anybody else will ever notice is a more responsive throttle via the gas pedal. It doesn't alter the throttle itself at all. It doesn't change any angles, or do anything at a different time or place. It takes the slop out of your cable. If you believe anything else, you have some serious issues to deal with. Okay, I'm sorry. I just posted this and reread your post, and realized you are not referring to the spacer-in-the-cable website SLO95 provided a link to. Where is there more info on the item you are referring to? I'm curious to read about this. Take care ~Chris ------------------ Retired Moderator MustangNet My site: JimPorterRacing RACECAR spelled backwards is RACECAR HEY !!! Are you ASE Certified ??? If you are, ask me about iATN. The best tool you'll ever have, and it's free !!! [This message has been edited by PKRWUD (edited 09-11-2001).] [This message has been edited by PKRWUD (edited 09-11-2001).]

09-11-2001, 07:56 AM	#10
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	i know mustangs unlimited sells it. heres the discreption that goes along with it from their catalog: "at 60% throttle, the unit is activated and tells the computer that the engine is at WOT. by creating this signal through the TPS, it then delivers max fuel and timing as if the car were at WOT. the result is an immediate improvement in throttle feel and maximum engine performance without mashing the pedal to the floor. cars perform normally below 60% throttle." ------------------ 89 GT AOD w/ shift kit, B&M rachet shifter, Trickflow intake, Crane (E-type) cam, 70Tb, 75MAF, 1.6 Rockers, Pulleys, MAC headers and H-pipe, Dynomax mufflers, K&N, 3 core radiator, white face gauges, custom interior, cobra R rims MY89GT

09-12-2001, 07:37 AM	#11
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	This is one of the stupidest gimmicks I have seen. If you want your computer and engine to perform like its at WOT, then push your litle foot down farther and save your $50.00 ------------------ 1993 GT/AOD '93 Mustang GT

09-12-2001, 11:01 AM	#12
Matt Harwood Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 10	I can't see how dumping extra fuel (as happens at WOT) will help at 60% throttle. If you want to improve throttle response, set the timing as advanced as you can, and make sure your TPS is properly adjusted. By the way, I'd rather have a smooth progressive throttle rather than an "on-off" switch under my foot. Some makers of cheap, underpowered cars (Buick and Oldsmobile are big offenders in this department) use an aggressive step-off cam on their throttle bodies to give the poor sap of an owner the impression of horsepower. They step on the gas, and the first few millimeters of travel opens the throttle disproportionately far to make the car "lunge" off the line like it has more power. Pushing it to the floor, however, reveals the same anemic GM V6 wheeze we've all come to despise. Just a trick, no performance gain. At all. By the way, has everybody seen the BMW films available at BMW.com? I heartily recommend them for anyone into cars--the driving is flat-out awesome! ------------------ Matt Harwood Harwood Performance Engineering Cleveland, OH http://www.harwoodperformance.bizland.com 1993 LX coupe: built 342, GT-40X heads, ported Cobra intake, JBA headers, 3.55s, etc., etc., etc. *FOR SALE:* 1997 Ranger Splash Supercab: 1995 Cobra 5.0L, 8 PSI Kenne-Bell supercharger, Tremec 3550. 319 HP @ the rear wheels. Stock wheels, not lowered. The ultimate sleeper?

09-12-2001, 07:10 PM	#13
Jeb_Bush_2000 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Taxachusetts Posts: 374	Vipers have touchy throttles, too.