Stupid hurst shifter and reverse....HELP!

929PhoenixSquid · 06-10-2002, 01:03 PM

I recently purchased an '88 Notch and it's equipped with a Hurst shifter than for some reason does NOT wanna go into reverse without grinding like crazy! I've tried babying it as much as possible and no matter what I do, the stupid thing keeps grinding....

Would switching back to a stock shifter solve my problem? Oh, and does anyone wanna trade?

Dark_5.0 · 06-10-2002, 01:09 PM

That is a common T-5 problem....I have to go up to 5th and then down to reverse.

Plus I have heard that the hurst shifter is a POS...."No Flames"

Later,

89 Cobra LX · 06-10-2002, 01:18 PM

I have no complaints with my Hurst....

You're problem is not the shifter. Like Dark_5.0 said, it's a common T-5 problem. Try sticking it into a different gear before going into reverse. I usually go into first and then to reverse (leaving the clutch in the whole time).

mysweetlx · 06-10-2002, 01:37 PM

I don't like my Hurst....I dislike the shifter "ball" knob even more. I just ordered a Hurst shifter handle that looks like it'll be more comfortable. I'm not getting rid of it till I get a tremec. Sometimes my Hurs gets tempermental.....and I need to put it in 1st and then reverse.

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 06-10-2002, 06:06 PM

I have the B+M Ripper and i have never had any problems with grinding reverse or anything.

RoadWarrior · 06-10-2002, 10:33 PM

I have the stock shifter and every once in a while it will grind going into reverse. Ive heard numerous people say thats a T-5 problem not a shifter problem. I usually shift to first and then reverse and it works perfectly.

Mustangbelle306 · 06-10-2002, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
That is a common T-5 problem....I have to go up to 5th and then down to reverse.

Plus I have heard that the hurst shifter is a POS...."No Flames"

Later,

You do know that there are at least SEVERAL very different models (shifter AND handle) correct? Some look like a chopped stock shifter, and others (like Matt's) look like some wierd *** truck shifter from hell

My Hurst was ok, but I, too had problems occasionally with reverse.

I think he asked about the HURST, not a B & M...

joe4speed · 06-10-2002, 10:51 PM

I agree try the 5th to reverse method... reverse uses the same synchros as 5th.

chatcher · 06-11-2002, 06:38 PM

i have had the same prob with all the 5spd fords i have owned it started with my first escort gt and i got into the habit of throwing it in second then reverse and i do that now pretty much every time i drive any 5spd car people think its weird but i never grind reverse

BILL 5.0 · 06-11-2002, 10:37 PM

I like the 5th then reverse trick. Every stang with a T5 i ever drove did the same thing.

srv1 · 06-11-2002, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mustangbelle306

You do know that there are at least SEVERAL very different models (shifter AND handle) correct? Some look like a chopped stock shifter, and others (like Matt's) look like some wierd *** truck shifter from hell My Hurst was ok, but I, too had problems occasionally with reverse.

I think he asked about the HURST, not a B & M...

its not the shifter, its the tranny. the 5th to Reverse doesnt work for me. i have to do 4th to Reverse. as for different Hursts, she is right. i bought mine used. mine is the cast base but with the spring 2-3. my friend has the exact same shifter, but his doesnt have the 2-3 spring. i ask the Mororso guy at Ford Motorsports Nationals about the different styles. he said the made a total of 6 for the T-5! mine is the least common. most that have mine have the competition whicn is my shifter with a billet aluminum base. i love my Hurst. i have tested B&M, Pro 5.0, and Mac. in my opinion the Hurst works the best. my other choice would be the Pro 5.0

to answer your question Matt, yes is normal for a little grinding. it sounds like to me that your clutch is out of adjustment or you need a new clutch. remember, reverse gear is a straight cut gear, so it will grind easier than the forward gears which are helical. i hope its not the tranny! good luck!

by the way, when are we going to see pics of the "NOTCH"?

929PhoenixSquid · 06-12-2002, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by srv1

to answer your question Matt, yes is normal for a little grinding. it sounds like to me that your clutch is out of adjustment or you need a new clutch. remember, reverse gear is a straight cut gear, so it will grind easier than the forward gears which are helical. i hope its not the tranny! good luck!

by the way, when are we going to see pics of the "NOTCH"?

Hmmm, I actually happen to have a FOrd Heavy Duty lying around my house from when I bought it for Belle's car. Maybe I should install that badboy and see if it works. After all, the clutch is almost 2-3 years old.

As soon as I recharge the battery for the digital camera, I'll load some pics for you guys.

I gotta warn you though, right now......she AIN'T purdy......LOL

06-10-2002, 01:03 PM	#1
929PhoenixSquid Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Joosey Shore Posts: 358	Stupid hurst shifter and reverse....HELP! I recently purchased an '88 Notch and it's equipped with a Hurst shifter than for some reason does NOT wanna go into reverse without grinding like crazy! I've tried babying it as much as possible and no matter what I do, the stupid thing keeps grinding.... Would switching back to a stock shifter solve my problem? Oh, and does anyone wanna trade? __________________ 1988 5.0 notch: Previously never modified!! SN95 block front and rear seats, Mac catback, BBK off-road H-pipe, Steeda castor camber plates, Steeda lowering springs, Tokico shocks/struts, Alpine/MBQuart/PPI audio mods...

06-10-2002, 01:09 PM	#2
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	That is a common T-5 problem....I have to go up to 5th and then down to reverse. Plus I have heard that the hurst shifter is a POS...."No Flames" Later, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

06-10-2002, 01:18 PM	#3
89 Cobra LX Don Corlione Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Omaha NE USA Posts: 491	I have no complaints with my Hurst.... You're problem is not the shifter. Like Dark_5.0 said, it's a common T-5 problem. Try sticking it into a different gear before going into reverse. I usually go into first and then to reverse (leaving the clutch in the whole time). __________________ Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe 5 speed 302-Cobra Intake-GT40p heads-TFS stage 1 cam-FRPP 1.6 roller rockers-3:73 gears-KYB shocks and struts-Eibach Pro-kit-HPM Mega-bite upper and lower control arms-FRPP aluminum driveshaft-16x8 Chrome Cobra Rs R.H.C. #14

06-10-2002, 01:37 PM	#4
mysweetlx Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 248	I don't like my Hurst....I dislike the shifter "ball" knob even more. I just ordered a Hurst shifter handle that looks like it'll be more comfortable. I'm not getting rid of it till I get a tremec. Sometimes my Hurs gets tempermental.....and I need to put it in 1st and then reverse. __________________ Damn this thing's fast!

06-10-2002, 06:06 PM	#5
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	I have the B+M Ripper and i have never had any problems with grinding reverse or anything. __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

06-10-2002, 10:33 PM	#6
RoadWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Edmonton,Alberta,Canada Posts: 317	I have the stock shifter and every once in a while it will grind going into reverse. Ive heard numerous people say thats a T-5 problem not a shifter problem. I usually shift to first and then reverse and it works perfectly. __________________ Fast Company

06-10-2002, 10:51 PM	#8
joe4speed He said Member...heh, heh Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Jupiter, Florida U.S.A. Posts: 3,718	I agree try the 5th to reverse method... reverse uses the same synchros as 5th. __________________ *Joe!* 1988 GT, 13.58@101mph Check out my listing! Click here! Or my website:www.joe4speed.com

06-11-2002, 06:38 PM	#9
chatcher Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: butler pa Posts: 303	i have had the same prob with all the 5spd fords i have owned it started with my first escort gt and i got into the habit of throwing it in second then reverse and i do that now pretty much every time i drive any 5spd car people think its weird but i never grind reverse __________________ 92lx wannabe saleen

06-11-2002, 10:37 PM	#10
BILL 5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: BROOKFIELD CT Posts: 3	I like the 5th then reverse trick. Every stang with a T5 i ever drove did the same thing. __________________ 89 LX 5.0 MUSTANG 5sp AFR 165cc heads GT40 intake BBK long tube headers 4.10 gears BFG drag radial 275/50/15 and all the little stuff Best of two runs 60. 1.670 330. 5.120 1/8 7.962 mph 86.14 1000 10.404 1/4 12.461 mph 109.48

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