T56

albatross · 09-20-2001, 08:39 AM

Can anyone say how different the versions are for GM's T56. I can get a second hand one here in Australia that GM run in their sedan that's rated at around 500ft/lb and also want to know if I can get a bell housing seperately to fit the 351W.

95mustanggt · 09-20-2001, 09:21 AM

You want to take a General Motors 6 speed transmission and mate it to your 351 on you stang?

Man, I'm not sure you're going to find a bell housing that will fit, of course you could posssibly modify one, but I have no clue...sorry

albatross · 09-20-2001, 09:59 AM

Yes, we're putting together a stroked 351 looking at around 393/408 and running a 6-71 blower. We need about 720hp at the flywheel and want to run a manual 'box. The T56 comes out standard in a GM sedan in Australia so it's not too hard to pick one up for about USD$500-800 from a wrecker. It might last or if worst luck we could lunch them every couple of years and head back to the wrecker for another. It's just a thought but we'll probably end up TKO II instead or Richmondgear.

302 LX Eric · 09-20-2001, 10:27 AM

You may want to try calling D&D Performance in Wixom Mich. --> (248) 926-6220. I purchased my Tremec 3550 from them and they were very helpful. They sell T56's and the appropriate bells to fit mustangs - I think even the 351s, but not sure. You can also check out their website at www.ddperformance.com

Good luck, E

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Phantom5oh · 09-20-2001, 03:30 PM

The input shafts on a Ford are not the same as they are for GM. So unless you change that then they wont work. As far as I know the T56 doesn't have a mechanical speedo gear its all elecronic to go with the newer all elecronic speedo sensors. I could be wrong, but... Hope this helps.

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Chevyguy · 09-20-2001, 04:22 PM

Here's some links

http://www.fortesparts.com/tremec/t56-99mcobra.html

http://www.fortesparts.com/tremec/t56.html

Somewhere I saw a whole article for this swap. Best bet is to contact Mike Forte himself

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Yan88gt · 09-20-2001, 05:41 PM

No it will not work. I had the same idea and i have call Hanlon motorsports and they told me that was not the same t56 that the viper have this one can fit, try to find at your local junkyard

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albatross · 09-21-2001, 02:01 AM

Thanks for that everyone, I kinda figured it couldn't be that easy. Ford have a standard T5 in their 302 powered sedans down here that I can also get from the wrecker but that won't cope. The TKO II is my pick, it has a hefty torque rating and is a bit cheaper than the T56 but I'd be also interested to hear from anyone that has used a Richmond 5 or 6 speed instead since the cost is about the same. Anyone got any comments?

John R. Mustang · 09-21-2001, 12:39 PM

I have heard that Lakewood makes a bellhousing for this swap but you have to use a ford pressure plate and a GM clutch disk to get it to work. Also I am sure you will need a custom pilot bushing which shouldn't be too hard to come up with. Not sure on the speedo though. I guy I met on this board said he talked to Jegs (mail order) and they said it could be done in this manner.

09-20-2001, 08:39 AM	#1
albatross Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3	T56 Can anyone say how different the versions are for GM's T56. I can get a second hand one here in Australia that GM run in their sedan that's rated at around 500ft/lb and also want to know if I can get a bell housing seperately to fit the 351W.

09-20-2001, 09:21 AM	#2
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	You want to take a General Motors 6 speed transmission and mate it to your 351 on you stang? Man, I'm not sure you're going to find a bell housing that will fit, of course you could posssibly modify one, but I have no clue...sorry

09-20-2001, 09:59 AM	#3
albatross Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3	Yes, we're putting together a stroked 351 looking at around 393/408 and running a 6-71 blower. We need about 720hp at the flywheel and want to run a manual 'box. The T56 comes out standard in a GM sedan in Australia so it's not too hard to pick one up for about USD$500-800 from a wrecker. It might last or if worst luck we could lunch them every couple of years and head back to the wrecker for another. It's just a thought but we'll probably end up TKO II instead or Richmondgear.

09-20-2001, 10:27 AM	#4
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	You may want to try calling D&D Performance in Wixom Mich. --> (248) 926-6220. I purchased my Tremec 3550 from them and they were very helpful. They sell T56's and the appropriate bells to fit mustangs - I think even the 351s, but not sure. You can also check out their website at www.ddperformance.com Good luck, E ------------------ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 38,000 miles 13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60'

09-20-2001, 03:30 PM	#5
Phantom5oh Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 334	The input shafts on a Ford are not the same as they are for GM. So unless you change that then they wont work. As far as I know the T56 doesn't have a mechanical speedo gear its all elecronic to go with the newer all elecronic speedo sensors. I could be wrong, but... Hope this helps. Phantom ------------------ CHECK OUT MY MODS http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?1350 Loose Cannon Racing Scarzi Machine Works

09-20-2001, 04:22 PM	#6
Chevyguy Backyard Mechanic/Chemist Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Acton MA USA Posts: 435	Here's some links http://www.fortesparts.com/tremec/t56-99mcobra.html http://www.fortesparts.com/tremec/t56.html Somewhere I saw a whole article for this swap. Best bet is to contact Mike Forte himself ------------------ Frank W 90 5.0 LX coupe Daily driver. Silencer removed, K&N filter. Flexalite fan, 3 core radiator. FMS flywheel and Clutch, FMS blue wires Energy Suspension end links 88 Notch 2.3L 5 speed Parts/beater car My two Notchbacks 74 Chevy Laguna Type S-3 305 Finally fixed getting a 454 to put in garage <A HREF="http://www.chevellepages.com/folingo" TARGET=_blank>www.chevellepages.

09-20-2001, 05:41 PM	#7
Yan88gt Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Quebec canada Posts: 92	No it will not work. I had the same idea and i have call Hanlon motorsports and they told me that was not the same t56 that the viper have this one can fit, try to find at your local junkyard )

09-21-2001, 02:01 AM	#8
albatross Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3	Thanks for that everyone, I kinda figured it couldn't be that easy. Ford have a standard T5 in their 302 powered sedans down here that I can also get from the wrecker but that won't cope. The TKO II is my pick, it has a hefty torque rating and is a bit cheaper than the T56 but I'd be also interested to hear from anyone that has used a Richmond 5 or 6 speed instead since the cost is about the same. Anyone got any comments?

09-21-2001, 12:39 PM	#9
John R. Mustang Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Rolla, MO, USA Posts: 187	I have heard that Lakewood makes a bellhousing for this swap but you have to use a ford pressure plate and a GM clutch disk to get it to work. Also I am sure you will need a custom pilot bushing which shouldn't be too hard to come up with. Not sure on the speedo though. I guy I met on this board said he talked to Jegs (mail order) and they said it could be done in this manner.