TF STREET HEATS: How much are they worth?

nosfed · 07-24-2001, 11:32 PM

I found a set of the original "high port" Trick Flow Street Heats, new and unassembled. How much is a set of bare castings worth? I know they require special headers, but what else? I need help asap, as I may be buying these tomorrow.

nosfed · 07-25-2001, 10:44 AM

I guess I should have asked what kind of spark plugs to use

. I guess I'm off to the corral to look for somebody with a little knowledge.. . . . .

07-25-2001, 11:21 AM

Well, I can't comment on worth, but I can say I bought a car with a Set of the TF Street Heat Heads. They have been on the car since the Heads were first made.

They have been great to work with and make allot of power. I was running autolites 63 in the Heads with 10.5 to 1 compression and now I am running the autolite 51 because my compression went up to 12.5 to 1.

So anyway, great heads, allot to work with and has helped my car get into the 10's (all motor) and there is more there.

-James

Skyman · 07-25-2001, 12:55 PM

They are a good head. Are those the aluminums or IRONS? I dont believe that they flow as well as the new TW heads. How much are you paying for them?

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20.
12.54@107.4 Motor
1.69 60'

nosfed · 07-25-2001, 03:44 PM

Thanks for the responses fellas.

These are aluminum, and I think I can get them for about $600.

I know that with a full-on port job, these can make power with the best of today's high-end offerings. I am also aware that out-of-the-box, they arent as good as some others. That is part of what I like about them. They will work with the combination I'm building, and later, with some hogging, they will work with a serious 351 stroker.

Beni · 07-25-2001, 07:07 PM

well I know before the AFRs and Canfields came out, the old high port could fetch quite a dollar. They are still great heads, but there are so many other choices out now that can compete with it. BTW, they are tooling up a new batch of the old version soon, so dont pay too much. Id say $600 a set is a good price. These heads can go low 8s in the quarter, or just 12s.

Unit 5302 · 07-25-2001, 08:34 PM

Don't the old Street Heats require different headers? Although since you are planning a 351 jobbie, you may not care that much, lol.

You can get a complete set of TFS TW for between $900-$1000 ready to bolt on, and out of the box, they'll outperform the street heats.

It all depends on how bad you want them.

nosfed · 07-25-2001, 10:26 PM

WOW!!I have been reading this site for three years, and most of the guys whose opinions I value have responded. Thank you all.

Well, for now these heads would go on a 347 with an eagle/srp forged assembly. Later, I am thinking of a sportsman based 414" after some serious porting.

I think I can buy these castings for $600, and think they would work pretty well.

So, are they worth $600?

nosfed · 07-25-2001, 10:56 PM

Unit, they do require special headers, but I havent bought headers yet. I figure they add some $$ to the bill. Do these heads require offset lifters, shaft rockers, or custom length pushrods?

Also, What are the cc of the combustion chamber on these heads?

Skyman · 07-26-2001, 03:09 AM

How much is the cost of assembly going to be on the heads or are you going to do that alll yourself? If not factor that cost in too. 600 Doesn't sound too bad but figure in the extras.

I honestly don't know that much about these heads, but I have seen people run pretty well with them. I don't think you need different pushrods, but don't quote me on that.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20.
12.54@107.4 Motor
1.69 60'

nosfed · 07-27-2001, 12:18 AM

Sky, I would have had them ported and assembled with some nice hardware for $1,000, however, the owner now feels they are worth $800, and I don't, so it's back to the drawing board. . . . .

SaleenGTS · 07-27-2001, 01:03 PM

I had the old irons on my old car. They did require different headers, but I loved them. They seemed to have more low end than the TW's, but my TW's pull harder up top.

I have the flow charts on both.

Street Heat:
238 cfm @ .500 I
181 cfm @ .500 E

Twisted Wedge:
254 cfm @ .500 I
194 cfm @ .500 E

I think it is a good deal, but you can get new TW's assembled for about $1000.

------------------
Dustin
89 Saleen GT Sport,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

12.3@119

http://www.mustangworks.com/rides/pictures/Listing1549-slot1.jpg

07-24-2001, 11:32 PM	#1
nosfed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: wichita ks Posts: 79	TF STREET HEATS: How much are they worth? I found a set of the original "high port" Trick Flow Street Heats, new and unassembled. How much is a set of bare castings worth? I know they require special headers, but what else? I need help asap, as I may be buying these tomorrow.

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07-25-2001, 10:44 AM	#2
nosfed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: wichita ks Posts: 79	I guess I should have asked what kind of spark plugs to use . I guess I'm off to the corral to look for somebody with a little knowledge.. . . . .

07-25-2001, 11:21 AM	#3
stanglx347 Guest Posts: n/a	Well, I can't comment on worth, but I can say I bought a car with a Set of the TF Street Heat Heads. They have been on the car since the Heads were first made. They have been great to work with and make allot of power. I was running autolites 63 in the Heads with 10.5 to 1 compression and now I am running the autolite 51 because my compression went up to 12.5 to 1. So anyway, great heads, allot to work with and has helped my car get into the 10's (all motor) and there is more there. -James

07-25-2001, 12:55 PM	#4
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	They are a good head. Are those the aluminums or IRONS? I dont believe that they flow as well as the new TW heads. How much are you paying for them? Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20. 12.54@107.4 Motor 1.69 60'

07-25-2001, 03:44 PM	#5
nosfed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: wichita ks Posts: 79	Thanks for the responses fellas. These are aluminum, and I think I can get them for about $600. I know that with a full-on port job, these can make power with the best of today's high-end offerings. I am also aware that out-of-the-box, they arent as good as some others. That is part of what I like about them. They will work with the combination I'm building, and later, with some hogging, they will work with a serious 351 stroker.

07-25-2001, 07:07 PM	#6
Beni Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Jacksonville, NC(station) and Tampa FL Posts: 37	well I know before the AFRs and Canfields came out, the old high port could fetch quite a dollar. They are still great heads, but there are so many other choices out now that can compete with it. BTW, they are tooling up a new batch of the old version soon, so dont pay too much. Id say $600 a set is a good price. These heads can go low 8s in the quarter, or just 12s.

07-25-2001, 08:34 PM	#7
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Don't the old Street Heats require different headers? Although since you are planning a 351 jobbie, you may not care that much, lol. You can get a complete set of TFS TW for between $900-$1000 ready to bolt on, and out of the box, they'll outperform the street heats. It all depends on how bad you want them.

07-25-2001, 10:26 PM	#8
nosfed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: wichita ks Posts: 79	WOW!!I have been reading this site for three years, and most of the guys whose opinions I value have responded. Thank you all. Well, for now these heads would go on a 347 with an eagle/srp forged assembly. Later, I am thinking of a sportsman based 414" after some serious porting. I think I can buy these castings for $600, and think they would work pretty well. So, are they worth $600?

07-25-2001, 10:56 PM	#9
nosfed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: wichita ks Posts: 79	Unit, they do require special headers, but I havent bought headers yet. I figure they add some $$ to the bill. Do these heads require offset lifters, shaft rockers, or custom length pushrods? Also, What are the cc of the combustion chamber on these heads?

07-26-2001, 03:09 AM	#10
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	How much is the cost of assembly going to be on the heads or are you going to do that alll yourself? If not factor that cost in too. 600 Doesn't sound too bad but figure in the extras. I honestly don't know that much about these heads, but I have seen people run pretty well with them. I don't think you need different pushrods, but don't quote me on that. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20. 12.54@107.4 Motor 1.69 60'

07-27-2001, 12:18 AM	#11
nosfed Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: wichita ks Posts: 79	Sky, I would have had them ported and assembled with some nice hardware for $1,000, however, the owner now feels they are worth $800, and I don't, so it's back to the drawing board. . . . .

07-27-2001, 01:03 PM	#12
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	I had the old irons on my old car. They did require different headers, but I loved them. They seemed to have more low end than the TW's, but my TW's pull harder up top. I have the flow charts on both. Street Heat: 238 cfm @ .500 I 181 cfm @ .500 E Twisted Wedge: 254 cfm @ .500 I 194 cfm @ .500 E I think it is a good deal, but you can get new TW's assembled for about $1000. ------------------ Dustin 89 Saleen GT Sport,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's 12.3@119 http://www.mustangworks.com/rides/pictures/Listing1549-slot1.jpg