Tires won't chirp anymore, why?

91LXConv · 04-24-2001, 10:20 PM

Well, when I first installed my shift kit I was able to get a chirp between 1-2. Upon returning home to check fluid level, I discovered it was low. Filled it up with cheapo parts store tranny fluid. Ever since then, no more chirps. Is this because that damn cheapo fluid is too slick? Is there some sort of additive I can add for more firmness?

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1991 LX 5.0 Convertible
AOD w/ shift kit
Chassis:
Steeda cross-brace SFCs, Steeda G-load brace, Steeda strut-tower brace, 4-pt. Autopower roll-bar
Go-fast stuff: FMS 3.73s, K&N minus air silencer, MAC unequal length shorties and cat-backs, bad-ass Firehawk SZ50EP tires (225/55 16)

joey50gt · 04-24-2001, 11:03 PM

i might be wrong but you dont want your tires to cherp cause when your tires cherp they are breaking from traction and the less traction you have the slower your car is goiong to run cause your just burnning power.
Like i said i might be wrong so if i am people please correct me.
But you do want your aod to shift harder just not to hard with the shift kit.

WADS56 · 04-25-2001, 12:13 AM

I never tried it but you can try some b&m trick shift. It is similar to the stuff that paxton uses in there blowers (not the novi)

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347 W/ A-trim 6#'s, Canfield heads, out of the box Systemax II intake, solid roller cam. 11.1 @123mph

93lx 5.0 daily driver

04-25-2001, 01:15 PM

Your car should definately be able to spin 1st and at least chirp 2nd. (obviously in a race, you'd rather not spin them though). If your car can't chirp/spin like it used to, I'd guess that you're also having some other performance problems (like loss of power otherwise too).

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts);
30# injectors; 190 lb fp; FPR; TFS track heat Intake - 12.513 @ 112 mph (Pre-inj/fuelpump/FPR/intake)

91LXConv · 04-25-2001, 03:13 PM

I might give the Trick Shift stuff a try. I'm not down on power though, car feels good and spins like crazy from a stop with the 3.73s. The chirping between gears just sounds and feels so cool, I need it back!

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1991 LX 5.0 Convertible
AOD w/ shift kit
Chassis:
Steeda cross-brace SFCs, Steeda G-load brace, Steeda strut-tower brace, 4-pt. Autopower roll-bar
Go-fast stuff: FMS 3.73s, K&N minus air silencer, MAC unequal length shorties and cat-backs, bad-ass Firehawk SZ50EP tires (225/55 16)

dinomite · 04-25-2001, 08:14 PM

When I read this subject of this post, first thing I thought was "uh-oh, sounds like its time for a rebuild". Thats what it sounds like to me. Try some better fluid, and see if that clears stuff up.

91LXConv · 04-25-2001, 09:38 PM

Good news guys... I did some searching and found out that if your fluid level is too high you will get softer shifts. Turns out my fluid level is way high (over the checkered part of the stick when cold). I'm taking some out tomorrow with some tubing. I'll update y'all.

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1991 LX 5.0 Convertible
AOD w/ shift kit
Chassis:
Steeda cross-brace SFCs, Steeda G-load brace, Steeda strut-tower brace, 4-pt. Autopower roll-bar
Go-fast stuff: FMS 3.73s, K&N minus air silencer, MAC unequal length shorties and cat-backs, bad-ass Firehawk SZ50EP tires (225/55 16)

82 GT · 04-25-2001, 10:09 PM

It could just be the fact that the tread on your tires are getting low. It sounds as if you like to burn rubber a lot.
Maybe your tires are spinning but just not making any noise anymore.
The tires on my 88GT don't squeal anymore either but I know they are spinning because the revs get higher.(Plus the car is sideways!)

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'82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust.
1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

jeb · 04-26-2001, 08:59 PM

You probably are and just can't hear it. I put in a 5-speed and couldn't bark 2nd, even by dumping the clutch. I was pisst. Then I bought new tires and realized they were spinning, and I just could'nt hear it. Can't wait for gears so I can bark 3rd.

I just realized I hav'nt updated my sig.
I went 14.7@93.1 with the new trans

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90LX Ragtop.
15.5@91 w/Aod
Strut tower brace, K&N, 2.25'' Flowmasters, Hollow cats, Crank pulley, Crane 2031, Crane rockers, Holley FPR, Heavy duty clutch, and alum quadrant.
Need Gears Bad!!!

[This message has been edited by jeb (edited 04-26-2001).]

dinomite · 04-27-2001, 06:52 AM

jeb: What mods did you have when you did that 15.5? I'm taking my 90AOD softop to the track tomorrow for the first time.

jeb · 04-27-2001, 03:16 PM

I had all the mods in my signature. The only thing I did for the 14.7 was a T-5 swap. Not to mention the 14.7 run was'nt even a good run, it still bogged a little in first. With the AOD I launched it at 1800 and with no tire spin (not even a chirp)it went 15.5. I was kind of dissapointed with the AOD's times, but the cam hurt my low end power.

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90LX Ragtop.
15.5@91 w/Aod
Strut tower brace, K&N, 2.25'' Flowmasters, Hollow cats, Crank pulley, Crane 2031, Crane rockers, Holley FPR, Heavy duty clutch, and alum quadrant.
Need Gears Bad!!!

04-24-2001, 10:20 PM	#1
91LXConv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Pensacola, FL, USA Posts: 36	Tires won't chirp anymore, why? Well, when I first installed my shift kit I was able to get a chirp between 1-2. Upon returning home to check fluid level, I discovered it was low. Filled it up with cheapo parts store tranny fluid. Ever since then, no more chirps. Is this because that damn cheapo fluid is too slick? Is there some sort of additive I can add for more firmness? ------------------ 1991 LX 5.0 Convertible AOD w/ shift kit Chassis: Steeda cross-brace SFCs, Steeda G-load brace, Steeda strut-tower brace, 4-pt. Autopower roll-bar Go-fast stuff: FMS 3.73s, K&N minus air silencer, MAC unequal length shorties and cat-backs, bad-ass Firehawk SZ50EP tires (225/55 16)

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04-24-2001, 11:03 PM	#2
joey50gt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: hurst,texas,america Posts: 95	i might be wrong but you dont want your tires to cherp cause when your tires cherp they are breaking from traction and the less traction you have the slower your car is goiong to run cause your just burnning power. Like i said i might be wrong so if i am people please correct me. But you do want your aod to shift harder just not to hard with the shift kit.

04-25-2001, 12:13 AM	#3
WADS56 gear banger Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 1,144	I never tried it but you can try some b&m trick shift. It is similar to the stuff that paxton uses in there blowers (not the novi) ------------------ 347 W/ A-trim 6#'s, Canfield heads, out of the box Systemax II intake, solid roller cam. 11.1 @123mph 93lx 5.0 daily driver

04-25-2001, 01:15 PM	#4
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	Your car should definately be able to spin 1st and at least chirp 2nd. (obviously in a race, you'd rather not spin them though). If your car can't chirp/spin like it used to, I'd guess that you're also having some other performance problems (like loss of power otherwise too). ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 30# injectors; 190 lb fp; FPR; TFS track heat Intake - 12.513 @ 112 mph (Pre-inj/fuelpump/FPR/intake)

04-25-2001, 03:13 PM	#5
91LXConv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Pensacola, FL, USA Posts: 36	I might give the Trick Shift stuff a try. I'm not down on power though, car feels good and spins like crazy from a stop with the 3.73s. The chirping between gears just sounds and feels so cool, I need it back! ------------------ 1991 LX 5.0 Convertible AOD w/ shift kit Chassis: Steeda cross-brace SFCs, Steeda G-load brace, Steeda strut-tower brace, 4-pt. Autopower roll-bar Go-fast stuff: FMS 3.73s, K&N minus air silencer, MAC unequal length shorties and cat-backs, bad-ass Firehawk SZ50EP tires (225/55 16)

04-25-2001, 08:14 PM	#6
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	When I read this subject of this post, first thing I thought was "uh-oh, sounds like its time for a rebuild". Thats what it sounds like to me. Try some better fluid, and see if that clears stuff up.

04-25-2001, 09:38 PM	#7
91LXConv Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Pensacola, FL, USA Posts: 36	Good news guys... I did some searching and found out that if your fluid level is too high you will get softer shifts. Turns out my fluid level is way high (over the checkered part of the stick when cold). I'm taking some out tomorrow with some tubing. I'll update y'all. ------------------ 1991 LX 5.0 Convertible AOD w/ shift kit Chassis: Steeda cross-brace SFCs, Steeda G-load brace, Steeda strut-tower brace, 4-pt. Autopower roll-bar Go-fast stuff: FMS 3.73s, K&N minus air silencer, MAC unequal length shorties and cat-backs, bad-ass Firehawk SZ50EP tires (225/55 16)

04-25-2001, 10:09 PM	#8
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	It could just be the fact that the tread on your tires are getting low. It sounds as if you like to burn rubber a lot. Maybe your tires are spinning but just not making any noise anymore. The tires on my 88GT don't squeal anymore either but I know they are spinning because the revs get higher.(Plus the car is sideways!) ------------------ '82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust. 1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

04-26-2001, 08:59 PM	#9
jeb Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Deltona Fl Posts: 140	You probably are and just can't hear it. I put in a 5-speed and couldn't bark 2nd, even by dumping the clutch. I was pisst. Then I bought new tires and realized they were spinning, and I just could'nt hear it. Can't wait for gears so I can bark 3rd. I just realized I hav'nt updated my sig. I went 14.7@93.1 with the new trans ------------------ 90LX Ragtop. 15.5@91 w/Aod Strut tower brace, K&N, 2.25'' Flowmasters, Hollow cats, Crank pulley, Crane 2031, Crane rockers, Holley FPR, Heavy duty clutch, and alum quadrant. Need Gears Bad!!! [This message has been edited by jeb (edited 04-26-2001).]

04-27-2001, 06:52 AM	#10
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	jeb: What mods did you have when you did that 15.5? I'm taking my 90AOD softop to the track tomorrow for the first time.

04-27-2001, 03:16 PM	#11
jeb Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Deltona Fl Posts: 140	I had all the mods in my signature. The only thing I did for the 14.7 was a T-5 swap. Not to mention the 14.7 run was'nt even a good run, it still bogged a little in first. With the AOD I launched it at 1800 and with no tire spin (not even a chirp)it went 15.5. I was kind of dissapointed with the AOD's times, but the cam hurt my low end power. ------------------ 90LX Ragtop. 15.5@91 w/Aod Strut tower brace, K&N, 2.25'' Flowmasters, Hollow cats, Crank pulley, Crane 2031, Crane rockers, Holley FPR, Heavy duty clutch, and alum quadrant. Need Gears Bad!!!