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Old 05-07-2001, 03:29 PM   #1
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Angry track results are in....not happy!

Ok, I went to the strip today. The first time I spun like crazy off the line and then spun again hitting second(never done that before...ever) so that time slip was an embarrassing 15.59@92.68
Second time out, my hand slipped off the shifter between 1-2 which earned me an even worse time of 16.44@87.48
Third time, which was my best and last run I got a 15.05@92.58
The temperature was 70 degrees and the humidity was 55%
My best 60' was 2.205(last run)
After my 3rd run I decided that was about as good as I ewas going to get and went home pissed off. No sense in beating the car further.
This is my everyday car I use for work so I am not that concearned. I have my '82 with the 351 that will be my playtoy. Actually, the drivetrain in that is getting switched over to an '89 body shortly.


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Old 05-07-2001, 04:22 PM   #2
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let me see my prediction was 15.1 - 14.9 id say that i was right on the mark dont worry i started with a 15.6 and im runnin in the 13s now. ive also ween people in 5 speed 5.0s run 16.0s and worse on a good run.

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Old 05-07-2001, 05:01 PM   #3
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That seems slow, I ran my '90 AOD vert last weekend and got a 15.27@92 with 2.27 60'. You should be considerablly faster, like mid-high 14s.

Is the track at sea level?
Did you spin on that good run?
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Old 05-07-2001, 10:28 PM   #4
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I might have done better if I had a set of slicks plus you have to factor in the R/T
The magazines start the timers as soon as they hit the gas. If you subtract my .600 R/T then you have a high 14 sec car.
That is why so many people are suprised when they take their cars to the track and they run no where near the times the magazine articles ran.
I'm not making excuses or anything like that but it's true.
I had a little trouble with traction but I think slicks would solve that problem and reduce my ET a few more tenths.
I have no idea what the altitude was but I can find out.

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Old 05-07-2001, 10:36 PM   #5
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Actually, your ET's don't have anything to do with your reaction time. You can sit on the line for 10 seconds after the light turns green, and it won't affect your ET. The ET is just the amount of time that it takes for you to get down the track, measured from the time your front wheels "leave" the staging beams to the time you break the lights at the end of the 1/4 mile.

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Old 05-07-2001, 10:38 PM   #6
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Actually, and I think someone will correct me if I'm wrong... Your reaction time has nothing to do with ET. The timer starts when the staging light goes out, not when the light goes green.

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Old 05-07-2001, 10:46 PM   #7
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I stand corrected then. It was my first time to the track. sorry


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Old 05-07-2001, 11:05 PM   #8
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I don't think slicks would help you. Usually a slick is a taller tire and takes gear away. I have 4.10's in my car and run a 28 inch tall tire. That makes it like I'm running a 3.73. My car actually runs better times N/A with crappy street tires on it than if I run with the slicks. I think you just need some time with the car. It's alot harder to run consistent at the track then people think. I've had days where I brought my car to the track and ran .5 off my best times. I'm a good driver and that just showed me how much weather and atmospheric conditions have to do with the cars performance. Good luck and don't be discouraged.

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Old 05-07-2001, 11:14 PM   #9
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What track do you run at? I see your from PA, but I don't know where Danville is, I run at Keystone Raceway near Pittsburgh. You should run better, but it was your first time and that means a lot. You will get better with practice. Example- right after we bought my dad's 91GT we took it to the track and my dad was new to it. He had run maybe 3-4 times before in his old Vette, but this was his first time in the stang. His best was a 14.9 at something like 91-92mph. I ran it to a 14.60 at 94+mph with a 2.1X 60'. The more you take it to the track, the more your times will fall. Get that 60' down into the 2.0-2.1 range and you'll see the ET's you should. Also, what did you shift at? Anything more than 5200 is over kill and will actually slow your car down. Prime example- my dad when he was new at the drag scene used to take the rev's up to 5500-5800 between shifts, his MPH was typically 1-2mph slower in doing so, likewise in his ET.

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Old 05-08-2001, 12:44 AM   #10
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Get some vht sprayed down on the line, pull your swaybar (front), thats how i went from 2.1 60's and 14.2 et's to 1.9's and 13.9 my best, just saying it helped me a great deal, weathers warming here so my car is slowing a bit.

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Old 05-08-2001, 01:11 AM   #11
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What was the track elevation? This has a major influence on the E.T.
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Old 05-08-2001, 06:44 PM   #12
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killercanary, I race at Numida Raceway, it is only 20min. from where I live.
I do need more practice on the launching because even with the 2:73's it's either bog off the line or go up in smoke. It was hard for me to think about what I had to do because I got too concerned with watching the tree and getting a good R/T
From you what you told me, my shift points are way too high because i was shifting at 5500-6000
So maybe if I work on the launch and shift at 5200 my E.T's will drop a few more tenths.
I don't know what the altitude was but I know you have to drive up a few mountains on the way to the track. I emailed the track and asked them but heard nothing back yet.
My 351W '82GT should be very low 14's-high 13's judging from what I ran with my stock '88


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Old 05-09-2001, 03:02 PM   #13
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Ok, I found out what the altitude of the track is that I go to. It is 972 feet above sea level. Would that make a big difference or not really?
I don't have an adjustable FPR, so is there anything I can do to compensate?


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Old 05-09-2001, 04:22 PM   #14
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When my 88 GT was totally stock (save for a removed air filter) I ran 14.6 @ 96 mph.
I believe my 60 ft's were 2.1's and I shifted at 5000 rpm every time. A stock 5.0l makes peak power at 4800 rpm, so 200 rpm past that was perfect.

My car also had a T-5 and 2.73's.

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Old 05-09-2001, 04:24 PM   #15
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Oh yeah, the track elevation I run at is 1500 ft.
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Old 05-09-2001, 09:54 PM   #16
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at least you have alot of room for improvement. at fun ford weekend i saw a coupe run 15.50s, some cars are just lazy. my friends 90 gt ran 13.9 bone stock-no knn or exhaust, just tuned right

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Old 05-09-2001, 10:26 PM   #17
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I am going to try it again soon but this time I will do a few things different.
I will shift at 5000 instead of 5500 and I will give my car a complete tune up before I go again. I haven't touched the car since I bought it two months ago except for an oil change. The plug wires are STILL the factory wires and i have yet to pull a spark plug to see what they even look like.
I know I can get 14's out of it with simple tuning and different driving style.


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Old 05-09-2001, 10:33 PM   #18
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i wish you luck but i would have to see some one run a 13.9 in a bone stock 5.0. in fact the best time ive ever seen for a stock 5.0 was in a 92 lx coupe with some one that could drive the hell out of it and he ran a 14.3

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Old 05-09-2001, 10:47 PM   #19
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At the risk of opening a can of worms here, there is someone here that claims to run a 13.6 with a "bone stock" '99GT
I know the '99-up GT's are fast but I don't think quite that fast.
I saw some cobra's at the track last Sunday with light mods that struggled to break into the high 13's


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13sec95, look at my mods, i ran into the 13 sec range, i guess im not bone stock, but with bigger tires i should be running 13.7,
my car has an oil cooler a police thing, and i took stock 3.27 grs out of a aod vert and swapped them for my 3.08's and pulled my swaybar, boom i hit 13.9 and it was humid outside, my car is definately light though, and with the sway on i was running 14.1-14.2's i cant run 13.9 consistent the shift points have to be perfect.

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