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Old 01-13-2002, 10:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question traction problem - help

I have a serious traction problem with my 1990 LX Mustang. I have approximately 500 super charged horsepower. The problem I am experiencing is that in first and second gear I have no traction if I accelerate hard. I am running Good Year drag radials(275/50/15), KYB gas adjust shocks, BBK caster/camber kit Sub frame connectors, Eibach drag launch springs, Air Lift bag on the right rear side & Lakewood traction bars. I did not set the suspension up on this car, I have noticed that the trailing arms or control arms (??) have been removed. I have tried 10" slicks this summer, I was able to launch but when I reached middle to high RPM in first & second gear the tires began to spin (keep in mind this is on the street and not on a sticky track).....

Any advice would be appriciated on what I could do to achieve traction.

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Old 01-13-2002, 11:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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hehe, thats alot of power, you need to get on the track, a prepped one, i just borrowed a pair of m/t e.t streets, they hook almost too good on the track, but i can light em up on the ashphalt, roads are bouncy and uneven though, i did a 4k launch on the street they spunn a bit then hooked like crazy, then i smelled burned clutch?? is that normal? oh and i dont know what to tell ya, lose some power?? lmao yea right.
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E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60'

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Old 01-14-2002, 08:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I would begin looking into removing as much weight from the front end as possible. Every lb you can remove from the front is going to be transfered to the back and aid with traction.

I would also look into something other than a drag radial. I know their softer than a regular radial, but it's still a radial. Look into the MT ET streets or a set of McCreary G60's or L60's.
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Old 01-14-2002, 09:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Do people actually run around with ET Streets on the street? How long do they last with normal driving? I mean, they look like an all out slick, they feel like one... all excpet for the tiny line tread that is in it.
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Heh welcome to the problems with traction club! I only spin in 1st after putting on LCA's and drag radials. On occasion I'll lite 'em up through second, but thats pretty rare.
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Old 01-14-2002, 05:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Do people actually run around with ET Streets on the street? How long do they last with normal driving? I mean, they look like an all out slick, they feel like one... all excpet for the tiny line tread that is in it.
With pressure in them they ride fine, but low pressure, as in any tire, they get squirrely, and try to ride the road swaying side to side, m/t e.t.s are bad mofos, even though my car doesnt have monster torque, i can still light em up good on the street, but they beat radials bye far, on the track they hook awesome, just have to drop some pressure, i can actually feel them wrinkle when i accelerate, i dont know how long they last, but the softer the compound the faster they wear.

I have been drivin 100 mi round trips to work everyday with them on, around 70-80 mph on the freeway, no problems, except you can hear a little more road noise, im putting some in layaway when i give these back, screw dragradials, these are where its at, i never knew my car could pull that hard lol....Oh but on rainy days, I would try and stay off the roads, but i do that anyways.
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E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60'

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Old 01-14-2002, 05:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Do people actually run around with ET Streets on the street? How long do they last with normal driving? I mean, they look like an all out slick, they feel like one... all excpet for the tiny line tread that is in it.
I've only ran the McCreary's myself, but some of my friends run the ET's. The McCreary have more of a tread pattern and do just fine in the rain, at least I've never had any problems with them. I've put around 22,000 miles on several sets. If I ran more at the track, the mileage would probably go down, but for around $90 a piece, you can't go wrong. If I ran the ET's like Coupe said, I would stay off the roads if it were wet.
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Old 01-14-2002, 08:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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90$ a piece?? dang! im gonna look into those then, my buddy paid 150$ a piece for these m/t's.
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Old 01-15-2002, 01:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info on the tires. I will try them this summer. I know that I will have to do more though...... Any ideas on traction devices that work ?
What about the missing trailing arms (?) Should I replace them with aftermarket ? A friend said they don't work.

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Old 01-15-2002, 01:39 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Heh welcome to the problems with traction club! I only spin in 1st after putting on LCA's and drag radials. On occasion I'll lite 'em up through second, but thats pretty rare.
What are LCA's ?

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duration,114 lobe separation),1.6 Roller Rockers,Trick
Flow Twisted Wedge Heads(ported and polished,o-ringed,
Vortech R Trim Cog Supercharger(15 pounds of boost @
6000 rpm),4:1 FMU,Anderson Power Pipe and Vortech
By-Pass Combo,GT-40 Lower Intake,Downs Upper,Accufab
70mm throttle body,Pro-m 77mm MAF(calibrated),36lb
Injectors,255 LPH Fuel Pump,T- Rex External Pump,
Aeromotive Fuel Regulator,1 5/8 Shorty Headers,3" Mac
Exhaust,3.73 Gears,6 BTM Ignition Box,Sub Frame
Connectors,Eibach Drag Launch Kit(springs),KYB Gas
Shocks,Air Lift Air Bag(right rear spring),Lakewood
Traction Bars,BF Goodrich Drag Radials(275/50/15),
Weld Draglite Wheels,Hurst Shifter,Centerforce
Clutch,Fiberglass Hood,Auto Meter Gauges,Hotchkis
Caster/Camber Kit,Trunk Mounted Battery.
*Stock Tranny - will replace this summer,axles next.
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Old 01-15-2002, 10:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I was wondering what the maximum size of Mickey Thompson ET street tire will fit my application? I believe I have 15x8 rims, my research indicates that tire size 28x11.5-15 would be right?
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6000 rpm),4:1 FMU,Anderson Power Pipe and Vortech
By-Pass Combo,GT-40 Lower Intake,Downs Upper,Accufab
70mm throttle body,Pro-m 77mm MAF(calibrated),36lb
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Connectors,Eibach Drag Launch Kit(springs),KYB Gas
Shocks,Air Lift Air Bag(right rear spring),Lakewood
Traction Bars,BF Goodrich Drag Radials(275/50/15),
Weld Draglite Wheels,Hurst Shifter,Centerforce
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Old 01-15-2002, 10:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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28x11.5's will work I think, i know my 26x10.5's are pretty close to the PB cable, but it fits, and looks good, the taller tire will drop your gear ratio if you need a lil more topend, and the 11.50's are wider.
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What about Nitto's? I was thinking on getting a set for street tires. I have a pair of slicks for when I go to the track but I need a good pair of street tires.
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Old 01-16-2002, 05:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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What about Nitto's? I was thinking on getting a set for street tires. I have a pair of slicks for when I go to the track but I need a good pair of street tires.
E.t streets are street tires ....ok i know what you mean, you want a real radial, stiff wall radial, i dont think they make a radial that can hook up my car, unless i launch at idle, but that aint no fun....good luck, btw, I like the firestone firehawks, they hook good....good enough
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