AOD/T5 Crossmember differences?

Sonics2042 · 04-15-2002, 08:18 PM

I have a 90 LX with the stock AOD...Do I need a new crossmember if I want to convert to a T5? I have 94 rebuilt tranny ready to go.

Also, how much should I plan to spend on the rest of the parts?

I know I want the centerforce clutch ($300?).

Thanks,
DoranW

Sonics2042 · 04-15-2002, 08:18 PM

Oh yeah...and I already have the shifter...but I still need pedals and all that fun stuff!

91PA5liter · 04-15-2002, 08:59 PM

i dont think you need a new cross member you just need a new mounting plate the conects between the tranny and the cross member and the h-pipe also hangs off of it. Not 100% sure but pretty sure. hope i helped

drudis · 04-16-2002, 09:45 AM

T5's crossmembers are more centered (the ends) like this:

Automatic crossmembers are more setback like this:

Sonics2042 · 04-16-2002, 10:42 AM

So I am assuming that they are not interchangeable. Would I be correct in doing so?

Thanks,
DoranW

drudis · 04-16-2002, 11:39 AM

You could do a install-and-see...
THere might be some adjustability fore/aft to get it to fit. THese two photos were stock and for my TKO.

You can _make_ them fit by cutting/re-welding the mounts at the end. Not that hard to do.

fiveohpatrol · 04-16-2002, 01:55 PM

Most people that I've talked to about it have been able to re-use the AOD one, including myself (yes, i talk to myself)

Pedals will set you back no more than $50
You'll want a new cable and quadrant ~ $90
bellhousing and tranny, depends on if they are used or not. Anywhere from $250 to $1400

pilot bearing, clutch kit, flywheel, block plate, backup light wiring harness, 2 shorter bellhousing bolts (other 4 can be reused), flywheel bolts,
that should cover most of it. But do a search on this topic, it comes up atleast once a week and theres plenty of info out on it.

hope this helps, good luck, its WELL worth it,

-Drew

Mach 1 · 04-16-2002, 01:56 PM

Make it fit by cutting the spot welds, sliding the crossmember foreward (the aod application it is all the way back) and rewelding it. Not a big deal. Or if you dont want the hassle, just buy a 5-speed crossmember. They are not expensive.

Sonics2042 · 04-16-2002, 04:13 PM

Do these numbers look right for prices?
------------------------------------------------------
pedals: $ 50
new cable/quadrant: $ 90
bellhousing?: $ 270
pilot bearing: $ 20
clutch kit: $ 315
flywheel: $ 100
block plate: $ 50 ?
backup light wiring harness: $ ??
2 shorter bellhousing bolts
(other 4 can be reused): $ 5 ?
flywheel bolts: $ 10 ?
already have tranny: $0

converting from AOD to T5: Priceless
real estimation: $ 910 + ??

--------------------------------------------------------

I figure these are all at the higher end...should (hopefully) be able to knock some of these down a little bit.

Any of these significantly off one way or the other?
Just looking for like stock quality or slightly better.

Thanks,
DoranW

Mach 1 · 04-16-2002, 04:28 PM

I thinkyou can reuse your flywheel bolts, so you can take that off the list.

drudis · 04-17-2002, 08:00 AM

Reuse flywheel bolts.

Get a USED bellhousing, unless you are getting some Lakewood scattershield...

Post WANTED ads all over. These are stock take-off pieces! I sold almost everything you needed (at one time or another) for cheap when I upgraded to a TKO...

04-15-2002, 08:18 PM	#1
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	AOD/T5 Crossmember differences? I have a 90 LX with the stock AOD...Do I need a new crossmember if I want to convert to a T5? I have 94 rebuilt tranny ready to go. Also, how much should I plan to spend on the rest of the parts? I know I want the centerforce clutch ($300?). Thanks, DoranW __________________ What I have: 1990 Red Mustang 5.0 LX: [BBK X-Pipe]-[MAC Cat-Back Exhaust] [MAC Cold Air Intake]-[BBK Equal Shorties] [3.55 Gears]-[Cobra Intake Manifold (Upper and Lower] [E-303 Cam]-[Granetelli Mass Air Flow Sensor] [Front and rear sway bars]-[New black carpet and seats.] [Adjustable Fuel Regulator]-[T5 Conversion w/ K. Cobra Clutch/Hurst STS] [Cobra Throttle Body]-[130A Alt. Conversion] Thinking about: Aftermarket Heads! Vortech A-Trim

04-15-2002, 08:18 PM	#2
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	Oh yeah...and I already have the shifter...but I still need pedals and all that fun stuff! __________________ What I have: 1990 Red Mustang 5.0 LX: [BBK X-Pipe]-[MAC Cat-Back Exhaust] [MAC Cold Air Intake]-[BBK Equal Shorties] [3.55 Gears]-[Cobra Intake Manifold (Upper and Lower] [E-303 Cam]-[Granetelli Mass Air Flow Sensor] [Front and rear sway bars]-[New black carpet and seats.] [Adjustable Fuel Regulator]-[T5 Conversion w/ K. Cobra Clutch/Hurst STS] [Cobra Throttle Body]-[130A Alt. Conversion] Thinking about: Aftermarket Heads! Vortech A-Trim

04-16-2002, 09:45 AM	#4
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	T5's crossmembers are more centered (the ends) like this: Automatic crossmembers are more setback like this: __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

04-16-2002, 10:42 AM	#5
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	So I am assuming that they are not interchangeable. Would I be correct in doing so? Thanks, DoranW __________________ What I have: 1990 Red Mustang 5.0 LX: [BBK X-Pipe]-[MAC Cat-Back Exhaust] [MAC Cold Air Intake]-[BBK Equal Shorties] [3.55 Gears]-[Cobra Intake Manifold (Upper and Lower] [E-303 Cam]-[Granetelli Mass Air Flow Sensor] [Front and rear sway bars]-[New black carpet and seats.] [Adjustable Fuel Regulator]-[T5 Conversion w/ K. Cobra Clutch/Hurst STS] [Cobra Throttle Body]-[130A Alt. Conversion] Thinking about: Aftermarket Heads! Vortech A-Trim

04-16-2002, 11:39 AM	#6
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	You could do a install-and-see... THere might be some adjustability fore/aft to get it to fit. THese two photos were stock and for my TKO. You can _make_ them fit by cutting/re-welding the mounts at the end. Not that hard to do. __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

04-15-2002, 08:59 PM	#3
91PA5liter Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PA Posts: 79	i dont think you need a new cross member you just need a new mounting plate the conects between the tranny and the cross member and the h-pipe also hangs off of it. Not 100% sure but pretty sure. hope i helped

04-16-2002, 01:55 PM	#7
fiveohpatrol I'd rather be basketweaving Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,551	Most people that I've talked to about it have been able to re-use the AOD one, including myself (yes, i talk to myself) Pedals will set you back no more than $50 You'll want a new cable and quadrant ~ $90 bellhousing and tranny, depends on if they are used or not. Anywhere from $250 to $1400 pilot bearing, clutch kit, flywheel, block plate, backup light wiring harness, 2 shorter bellhousing bolts (other 4 can be reused), flywheel bolts, that should cover most of it. But do a search on this topic, it comes up atleast once a week and theres plenty of info out on it. hope this helps, good luck, its WELL worth it, -Drew __________________ NMRA O/C 9516 NA pumpgas stickshift 347 10.65@125.6, 6.73@100, 1.41 60ft

04-16-2002, 01:56 PM	#8
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Make it fit by cutting the spot welds, sliding the crossmember foreward (the aod application it is all the way back) and rewelding it. Not a big deal. Or if you dont want the hassle, just buy a 5-speed crossmember. They are not expensive. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

04-16-2002, 04:13 PM	#9
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	Do these numbers look right for prices? ------------------------------------------------------ pedals: $ 50 new cable/quadrant: $ 90 bellhousing?: $ 270 pilot bearing: $ 20 clutch kit: $ 315 flywheel: $ 100 block plate: $ 50 ? backup light wiring harness: $ ?? 2 shorter bellhousing bolts (other 4 can be reused): $ 5 ? flywheel bolts: $ 10 ? already have tranny: $0 converting from AOD to T5: Priceless real estimation: $ 910 + ?? -------------------------------------------------------- I figure these are all at the higher end...should (hopefully) be able to knock some of these down a little bit. Any of these significantly off one way or the other? Just looking for like stock quality or slightly better. Thanks, DoranW __________________ What I have: 1990 Red Mustang 5.0 LX: [BBK X-Pipe]-[MAC Cat-Back Exhaust] [MAC Cold Air Intake]-[BBK Equal Shorties] [3.55 Gears]-[Cobra Intake Manifold (Upper and Lower] [E-303 Cam]-[Granetelli Mass Air Flow Sensor] [Front and rear sway bars]-[New black carpet and seats.] [Adjustable Fuel Regulator]-[T5 Conversion w/ K. Cobra Clutch/Hurst STS] [Cobra Throttle Body]-[130A Alt. Conversion] Thinking about: Aftermarket Heads! Vortech A-Trim

04-16-2002, 04:28 PM	#10
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	I thinkyou can reuse your flywheel bolts, so you can take that off the list. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

04-17-2002, 08:00 AM	#11
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	Reuse flywheel bolts. Get a USED bellhousing, unless you are getting some Lakewood scattershield... Post WANTED ads all over. These are stock take-off pieces! I sold almost everything you needed (at one time or another) for cheap when I upgraded to a TKO... __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

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