MustangWorks.com - The Ford Mustang Power Source!

Go Back   MustangWorks.com : Ford Forums > Mustang & Ford Tech > Windsor Power
Register FAQ Members List Calendar

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 5.00 average. Display Modes
Old 09-14-2007, 09:27 AM   #1
5150coupe
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 28
Default trick flow stage 1, 1.7 rr, and gt40 heads

will this combination work? trick flow stage 1, 1.7 rr, and gt40 heads. what is the max lift for gt40 heads with the stock '89 block and pistons? i think this combo is 530/544. will the piston hit? i know of someone who ran a e303 with 1.7 rockers and gt40p heads, but does anyone know someone running the tfs, 1.7, and gt40 heads? i accidently ordered 1.7 rockers already, but didn't order the cam yet. if i have to i can order the e303 cam, but i would rather use the tfs if possible since i think it is a better cam. also, what is the easiest way to check for clearance. please help, thanks.
5150coupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2007, 04:28 PM   #2
rwhite65
Ride Hard
 
rwhite65's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Wyoming IL
Posts: 1,094
Default Re: trick flow stage 1, 1.7 rr, and gt40 heads

I use to run e7's, with the TFS-1 and 1.7 roller rockers and had no issues with clearance.
__________________
65 Fastback 91 roller 306, H/C/I
AOD-Bauman, PI Stallion, 4.10's and traction loc

04 Grand Cherokee Freedom Edition

79 Ford F-250 4x4 - Restored
rwhite65 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2007, 05:39 PM   #3
Dark_5.0
Registered Member
 
Dark_5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Staging lane
Posts: 4,337
Default Re: trick flow stage 1, 1.7 rr, and gt40 heads

I personaly would run the E303 over the Trick flow stage 1 cam. I have personaly ran a .566/.566 lift 218/224 duration @.050 comp cam with a stock block with stock untouched pistons.

In other words you should be good to go unless the heads are milled down or something.


ALWAYS CHECK PISTON TO VALVE CLEARANCE!!!!!!!!

Do a search I have posted the method many times.
__________________
92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim.
00' Lightning-Stock
88'CRX-13 second ego killer
Dark_5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2007, 06:16 PM   #4
5150coupe
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 28
Default Re: trick flow stage 1, 1.7 rr, and gt40 heads

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark_5.0 View Post
I personaly would run the E303 over the Trick flow stage 1 cam. I have personaly ran a .566/.566 lift 218/224 duration @.050 comp cam with a stock block with stock untouched pistons.

In other words you should be good to go unless the heads are milled down or something.


ALWAYS CHECK PISTON TO VALVE CLEARANCE!!!!!!!!

Do a search I have posted the method many times.
so why to you say use the e303 over the tfs? most people like the tfs. i like the sound of the e303 better, and i heard that the gt40 heads only gain power to .500 lift, so the e303 would be fine. then again, i plan on purchasing a set of afr 165 heads later, so maybe the tfs cam will work better considering future upgrades.
5150coupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2007, 10:51 PM   #5
Dark_5.0
Registered Member
 
Dark_5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Staging lane
Posts: 4,337
Default Re: trick flow stage 1, 1.7 rr, and gt40 heads

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5150coupe View Post
so why to you say use the e303 over the tfs? most people like the tfs. i like the sound of the e303 better, and i heard that the gt40 heads only gain power to .500 lift, so the e303 would be fine. then again, i plan on purchasing a set of afr 165 heads later, so maybe the tfs cam will work better considering future upgrades.
Let me put it this way. My old set-up was Canfield aluminum heads that flowed about 270cfm out the box, a ported cobra intake and an E303 cam. I put down 308RWHP and 332RWTQ totaly untuned. I was running mid 12's all day long at 4000+ft of altitude and running 108-109mph in the 1/4. I thought I must be leaving some HP on the table with the E303 cam. I spent the big bucks, 325 bux to be exact on a FTI Ed Curtis custom ground camshaft .566/.566 lift and 218/224 duration and really didnt notice much if any gains over the E-303 cam.

The E303 cam can present problems such as Idle surge and low vacuum on some cars but it is an excellent performer.

If I were choosing a cam for a car with GT-40 heads I would probably go with the B-303 cam or just leave the stock cam in there with 1.7 roller rockers.

The GT40 heads are better than E7's but not buy a whole bunch.
__________________
92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim.
00' Lightning-Stock
88'CRX-13 second ego killer
Dark_5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2007, 03:31 PM   #6
Coupe50h
Registered Member
 
Coupe50h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: SanAntonio, Tx
Posts: 957
Default Re: trick flow stage 1, 1.7 rr, and gt40 heads

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark_5.0 View Post
Let me put it this way. My old set-up was Canfield aluminum heads that flowed about 270cfm out the box, a ported cobra intake and an E303 cam. I put down 308RWHP and 332RWTQ totaly untuned. I was running mid 12's all day long at 4000+ft of altitude and running 108-109mph in the 1/4. I thought I must be leaving some HP on the table with the E303 cam. I spent the big bucks, 325 bux to be exact on a FTI Ed Curtis custom ground camshaft .566/.566 lift and 218/224 duration and really didnt notice much if any gains over the E-303 cam.

The E303 cam can present problems such as Idle surge and low vacuum on some cars but it is an excellent performer.

If I were choosing a cam for a car with GT-40 heads I would probably go with the B-303 cam or just leave the stock cam in there with 1.7 roller rockers.

The GT40 heads are better than E7's but not buy a whole bunch.
Yep, i remember you saying that before.
So many people bash the e303, but it sounds good imo too, and im happy with my 107-8 mph traps, eventually I'll have to get rid of it, when i do, im going with a comp cam.
__________________
X-Texas highway patrol ssp 1990 coupe - exploder Gt-40 iron heads, Explorer intake, 19 lber's. E-cam. crane 1.7 rollers. 190fp. 75mm maf. 65mm tb, tubular subframe connectors, mac cai, Asp crank pulley, T-5, king cobra clutch, flowtech 1-5/8 unequals, mac X-pipe Frpp driveshaft, lakewood Lca's.
race weight 3,160

12.69 @ 107.35, 1.71 60' 26x8.5 drag's 3.90 gear

13.20 @ 106.91 - 235/60/15 firestones 2.3 60' 3.27 gear
Coupe50h is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2007, 11:58 PM   #7
skiwesser
Registered Member
 
skiwesser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: rock hill,S.C. 29730
Posts: 420
Default Re: trick flow stage 1, 1.7 rr, and gt40 heads

I would go with the TFS #2 cam, I have AFR 165's and the #1 cam an when we checked P-to-V clerance the valve didn't even touch the clay. The TFS #1 is pretty mild and plenty streetable It pulls hard but I expected more I guess, but I'm pleased with it overall
__________________
88 GT: subs,pullies, 1 3/4 longtubes, flowmasters, AFR 165's,T,F #1 cam,Thyphoon intake, 24# inj., 73mm C&L,65mmT.B., 190LPH pump, Eagle sir rods, forged pistons in a newly rebuilt 306.

DYNO TUNED TO 300.97 RWHP 337RWTQ
skiwesser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2007, 11:21 PM   #8
5150coupe
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 28
Default Re: trick flow stage 1, 1.7 rr, and gt40 heads

ended up going with the e303 and 1.7's since several people i know have this combination. thanks for your suggestions.
5150coupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AFR or Trick Flow Heads NitroNixon Windsor Power 13 09-02-2004 06:26 PM
Trick Flow Stage 1 cam? 429mustang Windsor Power 10 02-25-2004 03:18 PM
Valve Springs for Trick Flow stage 2 cam Coupe Devil Windsor Power 10 02-16-2003 09:05 PM
Trick Flow heads??? AB89GT Windsor Power 10 09-06-2001 05:57 PM
Trick Flow Stage 1 cam - Which rockers? 2FastLX Windsor Power 3 03-18-2001 02:22 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:38 AM.


SEARCH