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Trip on Saturday ...Mustang VS SNOW!!! I need advice!!
I just got new z rated tires, they are good because the hug the road. My trunk with be full and I will have a whole computer set boxed in the back seat, and of course lots of clothes <(spelling). With this kind of weight plus the gas will my mustang handle ok for this trip? I'm going to Conneticut. This stupid storm was unexpected. What do you think guys I need advice Please.. I know how to drive in snow and ice but I never done it with my Mustang.
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It is a totally different driving experience. Be very carefull. My car has only seen snow once, 'cause it was the only thing I had running. There was only a dusting of snow on the road and it was a white nuckle grip ride the whole 10 miles. I am a very good driver too, it is just that wide tires, a loose rear-end and a good amount of power will spell disaster if you are not carefull. I have been driving plow trucks since 16 and I can drive in winter, but honestly it is scary. If your cargo will weigh 100-200 pounds and it will be in the very rear, then it will help greatly.
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Yeah, Mustangs and any kind of precipitation mix about as well as oil and water. Are the tires M+S branded (which is what most people refer to as all-season) It means Mud + Snow. All Season tires by themselves (no M+S moniker) just indicates a tire compunded to resist tempeture extremes.
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as long as ur tires arnt too wide in the front you should be ok..i could never had a problem till i got cought in a storm with bolongie skins(bald as can be) on my car and i did a 180 and it took me 10 min to spin the tires enuff to get out off the side of the road..now i ride my quad and my mustang in the snow all the time just to **** around but dont do it without decnt tires
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I dont know but I know they are the Futura's Ultra Z from pepboys. Very good tire I gotta say that because they are awesome on the track. All I found in info was they explained that they are z rated aqua tread, some othe stuff and UTQG 300 AA-A <<< does that mean anything?
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o yea..have a safe trip and what school you going 2?
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I not going to a school, It's work related
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I drive my 4 cly winter mustang every day in the damn snow! (I am from Canada http://www.mustangworks.com/interact...oard/smile.gif)
Anyhow I have a 80LB bag of salt, skinny little M+S tires on 14 inch rims, and I am still all over the road if not careful. You can do it, I do it every day, just take your time, leave lots of room to brake, and try to avoid hills. There is a hill near my house, if there is powder on the ground I am all over the road the whole way up, fun but dangerous. Again, take your time, think slow, drive slow, and you should be fine! Ian ------------------ Ian Sim webmaster@stangpower.com STORED: 1988 Mustang GT "Canadian Cobra", stock, AOD, loaded WANT XENON HEADLIGHTS AND WHITE FACE GAUGES? Visit my site: http://www.stangpower.com |
UTQG 300 AA-A
UTQG: Uniform Tire Quality Guide (BS really since the gov. developed a standard but pretty much left the individual tire companies to implement the way in which they test so its useful with in a manufacturers tire line only) 300: This tire wears 3 times better than a tire rated a 100 (rule of thumb, basically this tire could achieve under ideal conditions about 60,000 miles. but thats driving like granny with perfect air pressure and no abuse) AA: Comparative traction ability AA being the best, then it goes from A-C. This takes into account wet traction. They had to develop the AA rating when all the rain tires came out. A: Temperature rating A being the best C being the worst. This relfects how well the tire operates when heated up. By default most hi-performance tires have an A rating because the invironment they operate in. Hi speed/Hi heat. The latter being the tire killer. Thats why tire pressure is critical. The way it might read is P225/50r16 94Z M+S or might be 225/50r16 94Z M+S as an example. Then again it might have the Goodyear inspired pictogram on the sidewall. Generally M+S tires are easy to spot, lots of sipes (cuts in the tread blocks), with wide spaces in between the blocks them selves, maybe a directional pattern, and so on. All to increase the bite of the tire in snow and to evacuate the water from the tire. Michelin actually goes a step further and mixes in a proprieary silca material that enhances the wet/snow/wear capability of their tires. You would be amazed at the stuff they do to get tires to perform. Take a z-rated tire for instance. At 149+ its keeping contained a bunch of crap that cannot be bonded together. steel belts, nylon, rayon, kevlar, whatever. All while going over bumps, expansion joints, etc. Not only that but your asking it to make directional changes when ever you turn the wheel. If ever there was a black science it right there! |
Some sand or kitty litter will help alot if you get stuck somewhere, just pack it around the rear wheels. Stay away from bumps/potholes on the highway, and drive safe and slow.
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Ok I just went outside and checked my tire. It say 96W 245/50/16 M+S. So this tire will work fine in the snow?
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Rent a car.
That's my advice. You should be able to pick one up for about $35 a day. A 5.0 isn't the kind of car you want to learn how to drive in the snow with. Regardless of M+S rating, nothing short of an absolute snow tire will do much for you. Don't risk it, that's my advice. It's not worth the possiblility. |
If you don't have to, or have another option take it. I took mine out in a snow storm once, because I had to, and turned around. It wasn't worth my life. The M+S rating is nice, but those wide *** tires aren't going to do you any good. I was going sideways, just letting out the clutch in every gear. Avoid it if you can, just my .02.
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I cant avoid it because I need to start work up there by monday and I'm driving from Miami. I will have weight in the car, Luggage, whole computer system, and some more stuff. Sand bags are a good idea but Not driving all the way from Florida. maybe when I get to the snowy parts then.
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89FHPLX,
Just don't do it. Remember, on top of worrying about traction you'll have to deal with all that slushy road salt getting into every crack and crevise of your car. I know, I live in the rust belt and it ain't a pretty sight to see a beautiful car with rust holes in 90% of the sheet metal. My '89 Mustang has never seen or touched a salt covered road, it gets parked in the garage during winter. I realize some people don't have the luxury of owning a second car but it still breaks my heart to see a nice car driven through the salty slush because I know it's days are numbered... Phil |
Z rated tires suck in snow. I had cooper cobras and couldnt get out of the driveway (got caught in the gutter area). Now I have blizzacks on the rear and they seem to do pretty good but I have heard that they wear really fast. I plan on putting v rated BFGs in the spring. Good Luck
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First the weather report (aka-the bad news). As I'm writing this, it raining and anywhere from 30 to 35 degrees around here, meaning its just either wet or a big ol' skating rink depending what part of the state your in. It's all supposed to change to snow tonight, continue thru tomorrow afternoon, looking at 4 to 7 inches total. If you gotta do the drive during this weather the best advise I can give you is to definitly put some additional weight in the trunk/back seat as close to over the back wheels as possible, and take it slow. I assume your going to run down the I-95 corridor and from experience they usually do a pretty good job of plowing and sanding it from Jersey to Conn. - can't tell you much from Jersey on south. If you can do the bulk of the trip on Sunday that will probably be the best driving day, as the roads should be pretty clear with just a little left over precipitation. Good luck, drive safe and try not to have a coronary watching all of the road s*** getting all over you car - I know it would be more than I could bear to watch if it was my car.
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Yeah, I know. I have no choice. I supposed to be up there on saturday but I might leave saturday afternoon around 6pm. that way I can drive till Georgia or north florida and stay over night. The weather should be fine by sunday up there. Im driving from Miami to Bridgeport Ct.
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4th day of my mustang ownership it snowed a good 6+ inches at my house. Keep in mind I live at the end of a quarter mile up hill driveway. I can get a good run for it. So thats what I do: get her up to like 35mph and just hold on and try to keep it out of the ditch. Rally cross baby in the brand new mustang. I am really not afraid of the snow. Limited slip rear-end is wonderful hehe.
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Based on wwhat the weather sounds like, seems like the late Saturday/Sunday run will work the best for you. At least Bridgeport is in the warmer part of the state. Have a good trip.
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I say with "Z" rated (aka summer tires only) and that width.
YOUR SCREWED! I have driven in snow with Z rated tires and it was a VERY VERY slow drive. If there is any packed snow on the road where your tire cannot contact the road. You are in even BIGGER trouble! Based on my experiences! ------------------ C ME FLY http://www.mustangworks.com/mustangs...1248-slot1.jpg 88 coupe 14.75 @ 98 mph Traction Limited |
Go to a junkyard and nab some cheap 14 or 15 inch rims and mount thinner tires on them. Wider tires have to plow through the snow and traction is compromised. Take it slow and you'll be fine.
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Hmmm.
89FHPLX: Okay first off why are you going to bridgeport, Conn. It is the biggest trash hole in this country, someone got shot there 32 times for a bag of cans to recycle. I have a shirt that says welcome to Bridgeport, and has a smily face guy with a bullet hole in his head and blood dripping down. That place is bad news. Second why couldn't you just rent a car, I have heard that you can rent from one state and drop off the car to the same company in another state. I would seriously look into this. Number two, if you are storing your car, make sure no one can see it, that city is the prince of crime and your car will not last a week, if anyone has seen it. Good luck and be very careful, forget about the drive being dangerous and get a gun for the city your going too, trust me. I was there for a couple of days and got sick of stepping on the crack pipes, not being able to look at anyone in the eyes for fear of agression. I can't tell you enough, be careful.... Kevin ------------------ 91 LX Convertible Gray on Red B&M Shift improver kit, March underdrive pulley's Richmond 3.73 gears, 1 5/8 Flowtech long tube Headers and off road h-pipe, Flowmaster 2-chamber cat-back with S.S exhaust, MSD 6A Ignition with coil,Cap and rotor, Taylor Pro wires, K&N 12" conical filter system, Jet stage 2 performance chip and Lentech Street Terminator plus on it's way...just ordered some new Red alum pulley's. Doing some big shopping of late, I will keep you posted. |
Damm, now what, your scareing me now. I am acutually staying in trumbull, but I know bridgeport is next door to it. Renting a car is to expencive to drop it of. Price goes around $350 and up. I am leaving now Sunday morning around 9am so I should be there around Monday. Come on, I live in Miami, and you know How Miami is. I never had a problem here because I dont show off the car and I always look to make sure no one follows me home. I will live in a gated secure place with security. I know that Might not help but its better than nothing. It cant be that bad up there unless I go to the bad area's.
Rental??? Awhhh man, Now you guys are making me think. I really wanted to drive my car in sunny clear days there. ------------------ 89 Police Interceptor BBK Shorty Headers, K@N Cone Filter,H-pipe no cats, 2 chamber FlowMasters,Under Drive Pullys,14 degree Timing, Short Belt, No Air Silencer, oil cooler, 3.08's, And All Police Package goodies |
How long is this trip going to be? Usually you can rent something like an Escort or so for about $25 a day, $35 with mega insurance. That's with unlimited mileage, drive it there, drive it back. If you are gone for a week, that's only $150. You stay safe, so does the stang, and god damn it, your company should be paying for it anyway, the jackasses!
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I would be scared to death to drive a Stang on a long trip if I expected to run into a bunch of snow, even with snow tires. I had to put 360lbs of sand in my hatch just to even make an attempt at getting traction with my Dunlops. It helped a little, but it was still a real experience when I'd run into 3" of snow on the road. If you absolutely must drive the Stang be very careful, and put the sand bags in at the first sign of snow. And remember not to let the car lose its momentum when you are moving through the deeper stuff, otherwise you'll be done.
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Well, first of all I cant rent because I'm staying up there for 1/2 year. Anyways, the storm is ending and the It hasent been snowing in Highway 95 all the way until New York City. They will get some snow today but by the looks of how things are going with the weather, It might not be much. I will be staying in Conneticut. My plans are to leave Sunday Morning around 9am. By that time I will have a nice drive up to North carolina where I am staying overnight. Then Monday I will keep going north to CT. They are expecting this evening from Deleware to Boston about 3-6in of snow. I dont think it will happen that much but if it does, by the time I get there on Monday the roads especially on 95 should be clear. Thanks to all of you for your concerns about this trip. I think a Mustang will do fine in Winter but not in snow. There can be feet of snow on the side of the roads but as long as the roads are clear and dry I dont think there would be a problem. Dont worry, I will only drive the car on Weekends if its dry and sunny. Thanks again. I will let you all know how the trip went. Wish me luck. But the weather looks like it will be fine on Monday.
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What the he!! are you so worried about!!!! I live in CT, I drive the 89 in my sig everyday rain, snow or shine with no problems, with tires so bald they are dangerous. Yes, It is stupid to have bald tires around here, but the point is I make it everywhere I want to go, with no hesitations or problems. Learn how to drive and it is fun. Its going to snow tonight, and I can't wait!!!!
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Oh yeah, by the way...good luck in Bridgeport..I hope you don't like your car too much, cause it won't last a week if its nice. Bridgeprt is by far the armpit of Connecticut. Have fun
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Oh, driving in the snow and ice isn't a problem with the Stang, it's learning to drive in the snow and ice that's dangerous.
I live here in MN, I drive my '87Gt all winter, no problems, I've done it with baldy's, damn scary though. Learning to anticipate it's desire to go towards the ditch, and to lose your worry about going sideways down the freeway at 40mph takes some learning though. |
Hey green92lx, stop with negative stuff about bridgeport. It aint that bad unless we show of in front of those wanna be gansters. I live in Miami, And Its worsr here to have a Mustang. Anyways, I will be staying in Trumbull in a 24 hour security. My car will be covered everday, with alarm, kill switches, wire of dist. Whatever.. The thing is that I'm very carefull where I take my car and who I show it to. Maybe all those things I have wont do any good but If they really want it, then they will tow it. I always had faith in everthing. Mustangs are not being stolen like in the early to mid 90's. I have spoken to people from bridgeport and trumbull and it's not that bad there. It might s--k but it just like any other place. Iv'e heard that there are lots of mustangs there. I will leave Monday
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So you've done some of that training too Unit? Most of the sideways toward the ditch stuff is a non-event for me too. I just figured I got a snow-bird for a mustang.
Damn your tires came with a W rating. Guess they intended them for ultra hi-speed apps. If it's got an M+S rating then it can handle the wet and white. Still though due to the light @ssed nature of the car its a pain to drive. Take it slow and you should be okay. |
Z or ZR rated tires are the WORST in snow! I have been working at Firestone for about a year now. They gave me some 215/60/16 Blizzak's and ever since then the car does VERY well in snow and snow storms. I recommend even some used Blizzaks like what I have. Do not go on the trip with those Z rated tires! Good Luck!
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Well good news, the storm is over and the roads are being cleared. Iv'e heard that they are getting in better shape. I will Leave Miami at 5am and I will be in conneticut on tuesday morning. I will let you guys know how well I did. For now I gotta put this computer away because its going up with me. And thanks for all of you for your concerns and suggestions.
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