What To Do To Prepare For Emissions Testing????

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 07-22-2001, 09:59 PM

I am going ot get my 88 gt emissions tested this week hopefully, so i need to prepare for it.

I am going to put in 4 Quarts of 10w-30 oil, new plugs(what should i set them to???), 94octane gas, menthol hydrate(somethin like that) in the gass.

what else can i do to help it pass?

thanks

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang
My Site (Not Done Yet)

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 07-22-2001, 10:35 PM

i have a timing gun, & i could adjust the tps also, would this help/hurt?

thanks

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang
My Site (Not Done Yet)

dinomite · 07-22-2001, 11:30 PM

yup, change you oil, put in new plugs, cap/rotor/wires if you think you need em. run whatever gas you normally do (i don't know about those additives, i'm just talkin octane). can you pass without mufflers? you'll find out.... make sure your cats are heated up before you go in (drive around for 5 minutes, and then pull right in, you don't want to wait in line, they'll cool off)

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 07-22-2001, 11:40 PM

we are going to drive it there in 1st gear (30mph, 4000rpm) down the backroads, it is like 15min away, so they will have plenty of heat.

elmir50 · 07-23-2001, 03:31 AM

Your tail-pipes have to exit from under the car so they can access the emissions from your car for test purposes. If they cannot get to the pipes cause they car under the car then they will not test it.

jimberg · 07-23-2001, 09:58 AM

Without a smog pump you are going to fail miserably. Your cats need oxygen for them to work well, especially the stock cats.

Give it a shot, though. Run 87 octane and make sure your timing is at the stock 10 degrees. Make sure you have brand new O2 sensors that work in addition to all the basic tune up stuff already mentioned. Gap should be at .052-.054".

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351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

[This message has been edited by jimberg (edited 07-23-2001).]

Smokedawg · 07-23-2001, 10:20 AM

I agree with jimberg about not having the smog pump hooked up. I would still give it a try though.

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347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

Rick 91GT · 07-23-2001, 02:34 PM

You should add mufflers and tail pipes or they will not test as said before and I strongly suggest not driving that far in 1st gear, that is really hard on the motor and tranny. If you have a adjustable FPR you can try to lean it out a little as well.

Set gap on Autolite 25's to .053"
The motor takes 5 quarts not 4

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Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! FIRST TIME OUT 12.16@111 WHEELS-UP

[This message has been edited by Rick 91GT (edited 07-23-2001).]

dinomite · 07-23-2001, 04:55 PM

ya, don't drive in first gear. driving normally for 10 minutes will warm it up just fine, the cats really only take a minute to warm up. I hadn't noticed that you didn't have the smog pump, without it, you absolutely cannot pass. why'd you take it off? it takes no power to run, and not having it just makes your cats not work AND clogs them.

Piston · 07-23-2001, 05:01 PM

Back here in IL if you fail you get another chance to take the tests. But once you fail once they get on your case. I would opt for a $20 test pass which will not go on the record but if you pass then you just give them your form and have them immediately run it again or go back in line. If change the owners on your car then you could get away without taking them....

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 07-23-2001, 09:28 PM

the smog pump was seised, so i got a short belt to buypass it, we made tailpipes that exit before the rear wheel, using the old exhaust of an lx, gap is .046.

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 07-24-2001, 11:39 PM

FOOLS, ALL FOOLS, have faith

I PASSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WITH 94octane gass, no smog pump, tps @ .917, no mufflers, it passed pretty good

i was expecting to fail, but i didnt!!!!

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang
My Site (Not Done Yet)

jimberg · 07-25-2001, 01:56 AM

Well, what were the test results?

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351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

red82gt · 07-25-2001, 10:29 PM

Did you use Mohawk 94 octane? Ethanol blends rock when it comes to emissions testing time

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GT-40 heads (ported, polished, + milled), B303 cam, 1.7rr's, JE pistons, Offy intake, Carter AFB 625cfm carb, Flowtech 1 5/8" shortys, Flowtech X-pipe, MAC Flowpath exhaust, MAC pulleys, 373's, subframes, Eibachs+Tokicos, B&M ripper, FMS Clutch, Zoom Quadrant+cable, 17" CSA Ultra rims, 235/45ZR17 Yokohama AVS S4's, MSD 6A ignition+coil, FMS 9mm wires, Carbed, Naturally Aspirated, and Nasty!

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 07-26-2001, 12:24 AM

hers the results
Idle Driving
PPM 83 46
CO 0 .1
NOx - 304

thats with whats on my sig. & .917 TPS & MOHAWK 94octane

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1988 Mustang GT, T-5
3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang
My Site (Not Done Yet)

BowTie Eater 5 Liter · 07-26-2001, 12:27 AM

.......IDLE.....DRIVING
PPM.....83........46
CO(%)...0.00......0.10
NOx.....----......304

shovelnose · 07-26-2001, 02:14 AM

Driving HC 29
CO% 0
Nox 62

2176 RPM with new hi-flow cats and pcv, all other emmision equipment was there but not functional. Carbed, 94 oct. with a 230, 236@.525" lift cam.

Oil change and most important a tuned engine.

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82 Mercury Capri 302.
Comp. Cams
Tremec 3550
3.73's
12.8@106 N/AKevin's Capri

07-22-2001, 09:59 PM	#1
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	What To Do To Prepare For Emissions Testing???? I am going ot get my 88 gt emissions tested this week hopefully, so i need to prepare for it. I am going to put in 4 Quarts of 10w-30 oil, new plugs(what should i set them to???), 94octane gas, menthol hydrate(somethin like that) in the gass. what else can i do to help it pass? thanks ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang My Site (Not Done Yet)

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07-22-2001, 10:35 PM	#2
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	i have a timing gun, & i could adjust the tps also, would this help/hurt? thanks ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang My Site (Not Done Yet)

07-22-2001, 11:30 PM	#3
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	yup, change you oil, put in new plugs, cap/rotor/wires if you think you need em. run whatever gas you normally do (i don't know about those additives, i'm just talkin octane). can you pass without mufflers? you'll find out.... make sure your cats are heated up before you go in (drive around for 5 minutes, and then pull right in, you don't want to wait in line, they'll cool off)

07-22-2001, 11:40 PM	#4
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	we are going to drive it there in 1st gear (30mph, 4000rpm) down the backroads, it is like 15min away, so they will have plenty of heat.

07-23-2001, 03:31 AM	#5
elmir50 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Tsawwassen BC Canada Posts: 413	Your tail-pipes have to exit from under the car so they can access the emissions from your car for test purposes. If they cannot get to the pipes cause they car under the car then they will not test it.

07-23-2001, 09:58 AM	#6
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	Without a smog pump you are going to fail miserably. Your cats need oxygen for them to work well, especially the stock cats. Give it a shot, though. Run 87 octane and make sure your timing is at the stock 10 degrees. Make sure you have brand new O2 sensors that work in addition to all the basic tune up stuff already mentioned. Gap should be at .052-.054". ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible [This message has been edited by jimberg (edited 07-23-2001).]

07-23-2001, 10:20 AM	#7
Smokedawg Tires Fear Me... Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 867	I agree with jimberg about not having the smog pump hooked up. I would still give it a try though. ------------------ 347 Stroker Motor: Balanced, Cobra Transmission, Extrude Ported and Polished Upper and ported Lower, GT40 Milled Ported and Polished Heads, B303 Cam, BBK 1 5/8 Headers, 30lb Bosch Injectors, Holley AFPR, March Underdrive Pulleys, Perma-Cool Fan, 3-Core Radiator, Accel Performance Coil, Accel 300+ Racing Wires, Ram Air, K&N Filter, 73mm Vortech MAF, 70mm TB, FlowMaster Exhaust w/BBK Offroad H-Pipe, Hurst Shifter, 3:55 Gears, Ram Clutch, Cross Drilled Rotors, AC and Smog del, rear seat del.

07-23-2001, 02:34 PM	#8
Rick 91GT Procharged! Join Date: May 1999 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 1,539	You should add mufflers and tail pipes or they will not test as said before and I strongly suggest not driving that far in 1st gear, that is really hard on the motor and tranny. If you have a adjustable FPR you can try to lean it out a little as well. Set gap on Autolite 25's to .053" The motor takes 5 quarts not 4 ------------------ Check Out My Site 91GT,Holley SysteMAX II Kit-Heads 2.02" x 1.60" port matched to a 1262,Anderson N-61,24#,76mm C&L,Full MAC exhaust 1-5/8" Long tubes,2-1/2" O.R H-Pipe,2 1/2" cat back, No A/C or PS or emissions, 12" K&N Filter,RNH PERFORMANCE Ram Air,Ron Davis Radiator,Full Suspension,S&W 8pt "X" brace,JAZ seats,3:73's,Welds..etc,4:30's and 31 splines coming very soon! FIRST TIME OUT 12.16@111 WHEELS-UP [This message has been edited by Rick 91GT (edited 07-23-2001).]

07-23-2001, 04:55 PM	#9
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	ya, don't drive in first gear. driving normally for 10 minutes will warm it up just fine, the cats really only take a minute to warm up. I hadn't noticed that you didn't have the smog pump, without it, you absolutely cannot pass. why'd you take it off? it takes no power to run, and not having it just makes your cats not work AND clogs them.

07-23-2001, 05:01 PM	#10
Piston Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 77	Back here in IL if you fail you get another chance to take the tests. But once you fail once they get on your case. I would opt for a $20 test pass which will not go on the record but if you pass then you just give them your form and have them immediately run it again or go back in line. If change the owners on your car then you could get away without taking them....

07-23-2001, 09:28 PM	#11
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	the smog pump was seised, so i got a short belt to buypass it, we made tailpipes that exit before the rear wheel, using the old exhaust of an lx, gap is .046.

07-24-2001, 11:39 PM	#12
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	FOOLS, ALL FOOLS, have faith I PASSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WITH 94octane gass, no smog pump, tps @ .917, no mufflers, it passed pretty good i was expecting to fail, but i didnt!!!! ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang My Site (Not Done Yet)

07-25-2001, 01:56 AM	#13
jimberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Rogers, MN Posts: 2,089	Well, what were the test results? ------------------ 351W 89 Mustang GT Convertible

07-25-2001, 10:29 PM	#14
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	Did you use Mohawk 94 octane? Ethanol blends rock when it comes to emissions testing time ------------------ GT-40 heads (ported, polished, + milled), B303 cam, 1.7rr's, JE pistons, Offy intake, Carter AFB 625cfm carb, Flowtech 1 5/8" shortys, Flowtech X-pipe, MAC Flowpath exhaust, MAC pulleys, 373's, subframes, Eibachs+Tokicos, B&M ripper, FMS Clutch, Zoom Quadrant+cable, 17" CSA Ultra rims, 235/45ZR17 Yokohama AVS S4's, MSD 6A ignition+coil, FMS 9mm wires, Carbed, Naturally Aspirated, and Nasty!

07-26-2001, 12:24 AM	#15
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	hers the results Idle Driving PPM 83 46 CO 0 .1 NOx - 304 thats with whats on my sig. & .917 TPS & MOHAWK 94octane ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT, T-5 3.08's, No Smog Pump (Shorty Belt), Dumps At The End Of Stock H-Pipe, K&N Air Filter (Stock Air Box), Removed Air SilencerMy Stang My Site (Not Done Yet)

07-26-2001, 12:27 AM	#16
BowTie Eater 5 Liter Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maple Ridge B.C. Canada, The Best Place In The World Posts: 871	.......IDLE.....DRIVING PPM.....83........46 CO(%)...0.00......0.10 NOx.....----......304

07-26-2001, 02:14 AM	#17
shovelnose Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 234	Driving HC 29 CO% 0 Nox 62 2176 RPM with new hi-flow cats and pcv, all other emmision equipment was there but not functional. Carbed, 94 oct. with a 230, 236@.525" lift cam. Oil change and most important a tuned engine. ------------------ 82 Mercury Capri 302. Comp. Cams Tremec 3550 3.73's 12.8@106 N/AKevin's Capri