New cam, tunning again

88workcar · 11-16-2003, 11:59 AM

I have had a new cam from cam motion for too months, and I just put it in along with a elec. water pump. I had to put the timing at 35 degrees to make it come on right, now it pulls like crazy. It does not ping, is this going to be allright.

lx mike · 11-16-2003, 07:28 PM

35 degrees?? somethings fishy if you can run that much timing.
what happens when you run 10-14 degrees?? I've heard of people running 20 and even 22 but 35 is hard to beleive.

james87gt · 11-16-2003, 07:50 PM

i think he's talking about total timing at least i hope he is

88workcar · 11-16-2003, 09:56 PM

No, initial timing is at 35 degrees. But it hauls and does not detonate.

QuantumMotorsports · 11-16-2003, 10:20 PM

There's no way man. That would mean total timing would be at like 60 degrees. You sure your balancer is on straight? Or is your timing mark screwed up?

billheis · 11-16-2003, 10:22 PM

Hey 88 it sounds like its time to replace the balancer. More than likely starting to slip.

Jeff Chambers · 11-17-2003, 07:43 AM

Did you degree the cam when you installed it? Sounds like you may be off on your timing events and need the added timing to offset the effects of poor cylinder filling (cam advanced too much). Just a thought. Also, have you verified the computer's timing advance? Are you getting the initial +17 degrees at higher rpm & load?

88workcar · 11-17-2003, 01:43 PM

Fellas, I am so sorry, the timing is a 22 degrees. What I done was put the timing controller on ten degrees, And set the balancer on 20 so I could advance to find the happy spot. Well it turns out that I acually put the balancer on 10 also. So while running the car it only ran good when I had the controller on 15, which I thought was acually 35. So sorry but I am all good now.

lx mike · 11-17-2003, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 88workcar
Fellas, I am so sorry, the timing is a 22 degrees. What I done was put the timing controller on ten degrees, And set the balancer on 20 so I could advance to find the happy spot. Well it turns out that I acually put the balancer on 10 also. So while running the car it only ran good when I had the controller on 15, which I thought was acually 35. So sorry but I am all good now.

which timing controller?? like the msd??

88workcar · 11-17-2003, 06:15 PM

Yes the MSD

11-16-2003, 11:59 AM	#1
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	New cam, tunning again I have had a new cam from cam motion for too months, and I just put it in along with a elec. water pump. I had to put the timing at 35 degrees to make it come on right, now it pulls like crazy. It does not ping, is this going to be allright. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

11-16-2003, 07:28 PM	#2
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	35 degrees?? somethings fishy if you can run that much timing. what happens when you run 10-14 degrees?? I've heard of people running 20 and even 22 but 35 is hard to beleive. __________________ Rice Haters Club Member #101

11-16-2003, 09:56 PM	#4
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	No, initial timing is at 35 degrees. But it hauls and does not detonate. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

11-16-2003, 10:20 PM	#5
QuantumMotorsports Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, USA Posts: 597	There's no way man. That would mean total timing would be at like 60 degrees. You sure your balancer is on straight? Or is your timing mark screwed up? __________________ Michael Black QuantumMotorsports Norman, OK 1984 LX Hatch 306 w/ TRW forged flat toppers, Comp Cams Magnum 292H, GT40P heads w/ 3 angle valve job, .550 lift springs, Angus Racing Roller Rockers, Weiand Stealth Intake, Holley 4150 650cfm carb, MAC 1 5/8 Long Tubes, Single Chamber Flowmasters, 91' T5 w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, Turbo Coupe 8.8 Rear w/ 3.55 gears, QA1 Motorsports tubular K member, no interior except steering wheel and seat. Coming soon: 6 or 8 point cage, Fuel Cell, Weld Draglites

11-16-2003, 10:22 PM	#6
billheis Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Fernandina Beach, FL 32034 Posts: 178	Hey 88 it sounds like its time to replace the balancer. More than likely starting to slip. __________________ Bill Heiser 90 Convertable 5.0 LX, ported E7s w/ THumper valve job, TFS street, FR 65mm TB, B cam w/1.7 cobra rockers, kirban AFPR, Mac CAI, Mac Headers, off road h, 3 chamber flows, Crane ign. box, 3:73s, Art Carr AOD & 2600 converter

11-16-2003, 07:50 PM	#3
james87gt Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 62	i think he's talking about total timing at least i hope he is

11-17-2003, 07:43 AM	#7
Jeff Chambers Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milan, OH Posts: 2,699	Did you degree the cam when you installed it? Sounds like you may be off on your timing events and need the added timing to offset the effects of poor cylinder filling (cam advanced too much). Just a thought. Also, have you verified the computer's timing advance? Are you getting the initial +17 degrees at higher rpm & load? __________________ Jeff Chambers 1990 Mustang GT 10.032 Seconds / 137.5 MPH 14-time Street Warrior World Record Setter CRT Performance 2001 Tropic Green Mustang GT - 12.181 / 113.2 MPH 2002 Ford F-250 Crew Cab 7.3l Power Stroke - 17.41@77.2 "There's nothing boring about a small block automatic shifting gears at 9400 rpm!"

11-17-2003, 01:43 PM	#8
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Fellas, I am so sorry, the timing is a 22 degrees. What I done was put the timing controller on ten degrees, And set the balancer on 20 so I could advance to find the happy spot. Well it turns out that I acually put the balancer on 10 also. So while running the car it only ran good when I had the controller on 15, which I thought was acually 35. So sorry but I am all good now. __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

11-17-2003, 06:15 PM	#10
88workcar Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: Pierre Part, La. U.S.A. Posts: 1,850	Yes the MSD __________________ 88workcar 1988 Mustang LX 342. 417rwhp @ 6800. 28 X 10 ET Drag, 4.30s, 10.69 @ 126.43 1.42 60ft. 11.13 @ 127.7 on BFGs 1.72 60ft Rice Hater # 42 To be old and wise, You must first be young and stupid I'm somewhere in tthe middle.

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