Where to get 302 short block?

QuantumMotorsports · 05-10-2001, 09:00 PM

I'm looking at building a 302, I was thinking about getting a used block and rebuilding it. I have seen some new short blocks for around $800. This is with forged pistons with huge valve reliefs and nice rods and crank. I don't know how everyone sells there blocks, but I want something without a cam, I want to get a custom grind for it. Tell me if you guys think this sounds like a descent combo. I'm thinking about building a 302 bored .030 which would be a 306, I want to do trick flow heads or port some GT40s, the cam I want to do is similar to the FMS X303, high lift, descent duration, I want to use either a trick flow intake, or edelbrock. I'm wanting to be fairly cheap, but want to get at least 300 HP to the wheels, at the very least. I'd be much happier with 350 or higher, but money is the key. Anyone have suggestions as far as where to buy a short block? heads? intake? Thanks guys.

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Michael Black
Quantum Motorsports
Norman, Oklahoma

1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, Ported and Polished E7TEs, 2.25" duals w/ 2 chamber flowmasters, T5 tranny
New E/T!!!
14.626 @ 94.94mph, 2.194 60' time, a little better than last time. Keep in mind this thang is heavy (3590lbs) Finally 14s!!!!

TheSloAod · 05-10-2001, 10:03 PM

i dont know how much money you want to spend but you will be spending over $5000. when building an engine you get what you pay for. if you try and be a little cheap you will have a poorly built short block or cut other corners. the short block i'm building now cost $2,900 and thats using a stock crank and only 306 inches. i dont know if anyone could build a strong short block for $800-rods and pistons alone will set you back that much... basically i would run really fast from a $800 short block

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My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph

84_GT350 · 05-10-2001, 11:43 PM

I'm going to have to disagree. I WILL say that going with top shelf stuff tends to get expensive, but if you use your money wisely and look around you could find a shortblock for a reasonable amount. $800 does sound a bit cheap...that's probably stock crank, rods, and aftermarket hypereutic pistons...not notorious for holding up under big power. If you want soemthing to go racing with, expect to pay between $1500-$2000 for a well prepped 306 shortblock with good aftermarket internals.

SloAOD- Where exactly did you get your stuff and what did you use? For a 306 shortblock, costing d@mn near $3K you must have used some hardcore stuff .

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1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

TheSloAod · 05-11-2001, 03:21 PM

Eagle rods and JE pistons with rings cost over $1,200 then throw in a custom ground solid roller cam, lifters, machining, balancing, decking and all the other good stuff and the cost kind of gets out of control.

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My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph

QuantumMotorsports · 05-11-2001, 07:02 PM

A local speed shop has FMS GT40 shortblocks assembled for $1200, how does that sound? They said they'd throw in a set of GT40 steel heads for $400, these are supposed to be new heads, I know the block is new. What do you guys think?

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Michael Black
Quantum Motorsports
Norman, Oklahoma

1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, Ported and Polished E7TEs, 2.25" duals w/ 2 chamber flowmasters, T5 tranny
New E/T!!!
14.626 @ 94.94mph, 2.194 60' time, a little better than last time. Keep in mind this thang is heavy (3590lbs) Finally 14s!!!!

exgmguy · 05-11-2001, 07:54 PM

A 3000 dollar shortblock and you car traps 103?

A stock shortblock with hyper pistons will do fine. You can even moderately spray it or boost it no problem.

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1988 Mustang GT
12.0 @ 122
1992 BadAzz Wrangler
1993 Explorer

TheSloAod · 05-12-2001, 03:06 PM

exgmguy- the stock motor is in my car now i am building a short block (the stock motor goes 103 in the 1/4 with the aod).

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My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph

05-10-2001, 09:00 PM	#1
QuantumMotorsports Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, USA Posts: 597	Where to get 302 short block? I'm looking at building a 302, I was thinking about getting a used block and rebuilding it. I have seen some new short blocks for around $800. This is with forged pistons with huge valve reliefs and nice rods and crank. I don't know how everyone sells there blocks, but I want something without a cam, I want to get a custom grind for it. Tell me if you guys think this sounds like a descent combo. I'm thinking about building a 302 bored .030 which would be a 306, I want to do trick flow heads or port some GT40s, the cam I want to do is similar to the FMS X303, high lift, descent duration, I want to use either a trick flow intake, or edelbrock. I'm wanting to be fairly cheap, but want to get at least 300 HP to the wheels, at the very least. I'd be much happier with 350 or higher, but money is the key. Anyone have suggestions as far as where to buy a short block? heads? intake? Thanks guys. ------------------ Michael Black Quantum Motorsports Norman, Oklahoma 1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, Ported and Polished E7TEs, 2.25" duals w/ 2 chamber flowmasters, T5 tranny New E/T!!! 14.626 @ 94.94mph, 2.194 60' time, a little better than last time. Keep in mind this thang is heavy (3590lbs) Finally 14s!!!!

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05-10-2001, 10:03 PM	#2
TheSloAod Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: baytown, tx usa Posts: 121	i dont know how much money you want to spend but you will be spending over $5000. when building an engine you get what you pay for. if you try and be a little cheap you will have a poorly built short block or cut other corners. the short block i'm building now cost $2,900 and thats using a stock crank and only 306 inches. i dont know if anyone could build a strong short block for $800-rods and pistons alone will set you back that much... basically i would run really fast from a $800 short block ------------------ My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph

05-10-2001, 11:43 PM	#3
84_GT350 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Overland Park, KS, USA Posts: 1,631	I'm going to have to disagree. I WILL say that going with top shelf stuff tends to get expensive, but if you use your money wisely and look around you could find a shortblock for a reasonable amount. $800 does sound a bit cheap...that's probably stock crank, rods, and aftermarket hypereutic pistons...not notorious for holding up under big power. If you want soemthing to go racing with, expect to pay between $1500-$2000 for a well prepped 306 shortblock with good aftermarket internals. SloAOD- Where exactly did you get your stuff and what did you use? For a 306 shortblock, costing d@mn near $3K you must have used some hardcore stuff . ------------------ 1984 1/2 GT350 (#842 Hatchback w/ T-tops), 302HO, Comp cams Xtreme Energy cam, Carter 625cfm carb, Weiand Stealth intake, MSD distributor, MSD coil, FMS 9mm wires, 1 5/8" MAC unequal shorties, 2 1/2" MAC Prochamber H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chambers, KYBs, 16"x8" 4 lug Cobra Rs, Falken 245/45ZR16s

05-11-2001, 03:21 PM	#4
TheSloAod Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: baytown, tx usa Posts: 121	Eagle rods and JE pistons with rings cost over $1,200 then throw in a custom ground solid roller cam, lifters, machining, balancing, decking and all the other good stuff and the cost kind of gets out of control. ------------------ My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph

05-11-2001, 07:02 PM	#5
QuantumMotorsports Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, USA Posts: 597	A local speed shop has FMS GT40 shortblocks assembled for $1200, how does that sound? They said they'd throw in a set of GT40 steel heads for $400, these are supposed to be new heads, I know the block is new. What do you guys think? ------------------ Michael Black Quantum Motorsports Norman, Oklahoma 1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, Ported and Polished E7TEs, 2.25" duals w/ 2 chamber flowmasters, T5 tranny New E/T!!! 14.626 @ 94.94mph, 2.194 60' time, a little better than last time. Keep in mind this thang is heavy (3590lbs) Finally 14s!!!!

05-11-2001, 07:54 PM	#6
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	A 3000 dollar shortblock and you car traps 103? A stock shortblock with hyper pistons will do fine. You can even moderately spray it or boost it no problem. ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT 12.0 @ 122 1992 BadAzz Wrangler 1993 Explorer

05-12-2001, 03:06 PM	#7
TheSloAod Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: baytown, tx usa Posts: 121	exgmguy- the stock motor is in my car now i am building a short block (the stock motor goes 103 in the 1/4 with the aod). ------------------ My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph