Where Have All The A9L's Gone?

DRASTiK · 11-15-2001, 01:35 PM

As some of you may recall, I recently had quite a few electrical problems with my 88GT. Well I've gotten all the bugs worked out now, but I'm borrowing a friend's A9L. He's going to need his back pretty soon. I have called everywhere and nobody except FORD seems to be able to get one for me. All the parts stores can't even order them because their suppliers are all out of stock too. Does anyone know where I can get an A9L or I'll settle for an A9P. I want to buy a new one, but I don't want to pay $290 from Ford. The parts stores sell them for as low as $95, but they can't get them right now and don't know when they'll be able to. Any ideas?
Dave

kystang86 · 11-15-2001, 01:46 PM

try mustang parts specialties they will have what you need

DRASTiK · 11-15-2001, 02:02 PM

well, I'd love to give them a try, but I can't get a link to them that works. All the ones I find go to stangparts.com, and I guess the site's down or something. Do you know a phone # or another link to get to them?

Coupe Devil · 11-15-2001, 04:12 PM

I am parting out a 90 lx 5.0 auto car. I HAVE NO IDEA what and A9L is but guessing by your post it's something electrical. If it is a stock part I still have it. I havent sold any electrical parts from the car yet. Let me know what it is and maybe we can work a deal.

Mach 1 · 11-15-2001, 04:18 PM

Pro-m will have what you ned. www.pro-flow.com

they sell computers with thier kits, so im sure you can buy one independently. I got a A9 from them before, for an auto.

Unit 5302 · 11-15-2001, 10:37 PM

Also Ebay.

A9P is more aggressive than A9L. It's the automatic version with more aggressive fuel and timing curves. The auto computer works in a 5spd just fine, but not vice versa.

Jeff Chambers · 11-16-2001, 07:29 AM

The 5spd computer will work fine with the AOD. I've got my A9L from the 5spd still in the car with my AOD and it works just fine.

The A9L also has the most aggressive fuel, timing and load tables of the EEC-IV calibrations. At least that's my understanding from discussions with some pretty knowledgeable chip tuners.

byrnech · 11-16-2001, 03:15 PM

Yeah! Hurry up and get a computer, I want mine back. Just kidding. I always heard that the A9L was the better one, as far as fuel and spark curves. I thought they detuned the cobra computer in 93' and then in the following years to keep abuse down on T-5 & T-45 trannys. I read in an article of MM&FF that the ony computer that was worse than the A9P was the truck computer. It was the article where they got 436hp out of a fuel injected 302.

Coupe5oh · 11-17-2001, 03:07 AM

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Originally posted by byrnech
Yeah! Hurry up and get a computer, I want mine back. Just kidding. I always heard that the A9L was the better one, as far as fuel and spark curves. I thought they detuned the cobra computer in 93' and then in the following years to keep abuse down on T-5 & T-45 trannys. I read in an article of MM&FF that the ony computer that was worse than the A9P was the truck computer. It was the article where they got 436hp out of a fuel injected 302.

436hp on an n/a combo? well anyways, i know where to get one for 80$ a9l, lemme know if you still need it, i'll give you the guys cell #, but he is here in tx.

btw, byrnech, your combo sounds wicked, kinda what i have planned, you gonna get some e.t.s on that thing?

byrnech · 11-18-2001, 04:03 PM

I should have it all together by the end of Dec. early Jan. I will post the times as soon as I get them. I have all the goodies, now I just need to get the time to put it all together. But yeah they got 436hp out of a 302 with the A9P and no custom tuning. It was the combo that I built mine around, except that I went for the 331 and a little more cam. I also plan on having it dyno tuned with a custom chip. After that it's going to get about 150hp shot of the juice. Oh, the 436hp was not on a chassis dyno. That was flywheel HP. But still very respectable.

Coupe5oh · 11-19-2001, 12:40 AM

yea but 436 hp without a blower or nos? im sure they did, but just curious, im defiantely dreaming up a 331 combo, a friend of mine has an 86 coupe 331 going 10.50's, 456 grs, 950 carb, canfiels heads, and more....its a hard launching car, with big slicks.

DRASTiK · 11-19-2001, 11:10 AM

Well Gents,
I wound up going on Ebay, but nobody had any A9L's, just A9P's which is what I had in my stang when I bought it. So I just bought an A9P from some guy. It has "CA" in the OEM # so I assume it's from a Cali stang, even though I bought it from a guy in TX. I know that the Cali EEC's had more emmissions controls in them, so I'm wondering what kind of difference that is going to make? The guys at the local Motorsports shop said that no matter which EEC I get, I really won't notice a difference even though the A9P's have a little more aggressive curves. Will the emissions controls in this EEC have any noticeable affect?

Byrne, I'll have your EEC back to you as soon as I get this one in the mail. As you already know, if you need it sooner, just gimme a call and I'll give it back. But that would require you actually getting off of your butt and putting your car back together

Let me know if you want a hand turning wrenches when you get started.

Mach 1 · 11-19-2001, 04:22 PM

What year is the EEC you have? You can tell from the part number. Only the fist couple years (87-89 I think?) had different emmisions programming for Cali. After that, all 50 state EECs were the same.

DRASTiK · 11-19-2001, 05:07 PM

It's from a 90GT. When I looked at my old A9P, it was from an 89, and it had "C2A" in the part #, but the one I just bought just says "CA". I'm not really sure what that's all about. I don't think my old one was from a Cali car. But since the newer one is from a 1990, then I guess it won't matter anyways. I am just curious why they have different part #s for the Cali ones if there's no difference in the later years.

Mach 1 · 11-19-2001, 08:03 PM

They dont have different part numbers for california ones? How did you come to this conclusion again?

In 1990, they went standard across the board, I double checked my source.

I dont have my spare EEC IV in front of me (its buried in the attic), but as far as I remember,
The code isnt in or part of the part number, correct?

The part number is separate fromt he code I thought.

Mach 1 · 11-19-2001, 08:10 PM

Check these attachment, maybe this will help you out.

DRASTiK · 11-20-2001, 10:48 AM

got it thanks.

andy669 · 11-20-2001, 12:27 PM

Hmmm...... thats interesting Mach 1. I wonder why they have the W4H0 as a manual? That has been in every aode car ive ever worked on. And to the best of my knowlege the T4M0 was the only manual computer they had for the 94-95's. (besides the J4J1 Cobra)
andy

Rebel79 · 11-20-2001, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by D&R Stang
well, I'd love to give them a try, but I can't get a link to them that works. All the ones I find go to stangparts.com, and I guess the site's down or something. Do you know a phone # or another link to get to them?

www.stangparts.com

BTW the A9P computer is very rare so good luck getting it. It was only put in Mclaren Mustangs (AOD), but somehow my 89 LX got one.. also an AOD. It took Johnson Motorsports over a year to figure out where the EEC came from because they could not tune it.

Mach 1 · 11-20-2001, 08:33 PM

andy669 - Maybe the book i got the info. from isnt accurate. I can only say that I got it from a book, but I also know you cant believe everything you read.

And I would have to disagree that the A9p is a rare computer from a Mclaren car. Certainly Mclaren car was nothing special and didnt warrant its own computer, and I got one with a Mass air conversion kit that I ordered from Best products.

11-15-2001, 01:35 PM	#1
DRASTiK Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 536	Where Have All The A9L's Gone? As some of you may recall, I recently had quite a few electrical problems with my 88GT. Well I've gotten all the bugs worked out now, but I'm borrowing a friend's A9L. He's going to need his back pretty soon. I have called everywhere and nobody except FORD seems to be able to get one for me. All the parts stores can't even order them because their suppliers are all out of stock too. Does anyone know where I can get an A9L or I'll settle for an A9P. I want to buy a new one, but I don't want to pay $290 from Ford. The parts stores sell them for as low as $95, but they can't get them right now and don't know when they'll be able to. Any ideas? Dave __________________ Dave 88 GT - 13.4@106 on street tires (2.2 60ft) My Stang RHC member #75 My stang is FOR SALE!!

11-15-2001, 01:46 PM	#2
kystang86 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: frankfort,ky Posts: 54	try mustang parts specialties they will have what you need __________________ 86 gt 3.73's,underdrives, welds, pro-5.0 shifted, chip,autometers,flowmasters, k&n,2.5" cowl hood, new motor in the works.. 00 250 powerstroke diesel

11-15-2001, 02:02 PM	#3
DRASTiK Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 536	well, I'd love to give them a try, but I can't get a link to them that works. All the ones I find go to stangparts.com, and I guess the site's down or something. Do you know a phone # or another link to get to them? __________________ Dave 88 GT - 13.4@106 on street tires (2.2 60ft) My Stang RHC member #75 My stang is FOR SALE!!

11-15-2001, 04:12 PM	#4
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	I am parting out a 90 lx 5.0 auto car. I HAVE NO IDEA what and A9L is but guessing by your post it's something electrical. If it is a stock part I still have it. I havent sold any electrical parts from the car yet. Let me know what it is and maybe we can work a deal. __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

11-15-2001, 04:18 PM	#5
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	Pro-m will have what you ned. www.pro-flow.com they sell computers with thier kits, so im sure you can buy one independently. I got a A9 from them before, for an auto. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

11-15-2001, 10:37 PM	#6
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Also Ebay. A9P is more aggressive than A9L. It's the automatic version with more aggressive fuel and timing curves. The auto computer works in a 5spd just fine, but not vice versa.

11-16-2001, 07:29 AM	#7
Jeff Chambers Moderator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Milan, OH Posts: 2,699	The 5spd computer will work fine with the AOD. I've got my A9L from the 5spd still in the car with my AOD and it works just fine. The A9L also has the most aggressive fuel, timing and load tables of the EEC-IV calibrations. At least that's my understanding from discussions with some pretty knowledgeable chip tuners. __________________ Jeff Chambers 1990 Mustang GT 10.032 Seconds / 137.5 MPH 14-time Street Warrior World Record Setter CRT Performance 2001 Tropic Green Mustang GT - 12.181 / 113.2 MPH 2002 Ford F-250 Crew Cab 7.3l Power Stroke - 17.41@77.2 "There's nothing boring about a small block automatic shifting gears at 9400 rpm!"

11-16-2001, 03:15 PM	#8
byrnech Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Anderson, TX. Posts: 166	Yeah! Hurry up and get a computer, I want mine back. Just kidding. I always heard that the A9L was the better one, as far as fuel and spark curves. I thought they detuned the cobra computer in 93' and then in the following years to keep abuse down on T-5 & T-45 trannys. I read in an article of MM&FF that the ony computer that was worse than the A9P was the truck computer. It was the article where they got 436hp out of a fuel injected 302. __________________ 331 10:1, AFR 185's, TFS-R intake

11-18-2001, 04:03 PM	#10
byrnech Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Anderson, TX. Posts: 166	I should have it all together by the end of Dec. early Jan. I will post the times as soon as I get them. I have all the goodies, now I just need to get the time to put it all together. But yeah they got 436hp out of a 302 with the A9P and no custom tuning. It was the combo that I built mine around, except that I went for the 331 and a little more cam. I also plan on having it dyno tuned with a custom chip. After that it's going to get about 150hp shot of the juice. Oh, the 436hp was not on a chassis dyno. That was flywheel HP. But still very respectable. __________________ 331 10:1, AFR 185's, TFS-R intake

11-19-2001, 12:40 AM	#11
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	yea but 436 hp without a blower or nos? im sure they did, but just curious, im defiantely dreaming up a 331 combo, a friend of mine has an 86 coupe 331 going 10.50's, 456 grs, 950 carb, canfiels heads, and more....its a hard launching car, with big slicks. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

11-19-2001, 11:10 AM	#12
DRASTiK Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 536	Well Gents, I wound up going on Ebay, but nobody had any A9L's, just A9P's which is what I had in my stang when I bought it. So I just bought an A9P from some guy. It has "CA" in the OEM # so I assume it's from a Cali stang, even though I bought it from a guy in TX. I know that the Cali EEC's had more emmissions controls in them, so I'm wondering what kind of difference that is going to make? The guys at the local Motorsports shop said that no matter which EEC I get, I really won't notice a difference even though the A9P's have a little more aggressive curves. Will the emissions controls in this EEC have any noticeable affect? Byrne, I'll have your EEC back to you as soon as I get this one in the mail. As you already know, if you need it sooner, just gimme a call and I'll give it back. But that would require you actually getting off of your butt and putting your car back together Let me know if you want a hand turning wrenches when you get started.

11-19-2001, 04:22 PM	#13
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	What year is the EEC you have? You can tell from the part number. Only the fist couple years (87-89 I think?) had different emmisions programming for Cali. After that, all 50 state EECs were the same. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

11-19-2001, 05:07 PM	#14
DRASTiK Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 536	It's from a 90GT. When I looked at my old A9P, it was from an 89, and it had "C2A" in the part #, but the one I just bought just says "CA". I'm not really sure what that's all about. I don't think my old one was from a Cali car. But since the newer one is from a 1990, then I guess it won't matter anyways. I am just curious why they have different part #s for the Cali ones if there's no difference in the later years. __________________ Dave 88 GT - 13.4@106 on street tires (2.2 60ft) My Stang RHC member #75 My stang is FOR SALE!!

11-19-2001, 08:03 PM	#15
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	They dont have different part numbers for california ones? How did you come to this conclusion again? In 1990, they went standard across the board, I double checked my source. I dont have my spare EEC IV in front of me (its buried in the attic), but as far as I remember, The code isnt in or part of the part number, correct? The part number is separate fromt he code I thought. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142

11-20-2001, 10:48 AM	#17
DRASTiK Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 536	got it thanks.

11-20-2001, 12:27 PM	#18
andy669 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Moline Il Posts: 901	Hmmm...... thats interesting Mach 1. I wonder why they have the W4H0 as a manual? That has been in every aode car ive ever worked on. And to the best of my knowlege the T4M0 was the only manual computer they had for the 94-95's. (besides the J4J1 Cobra) andy __________________ 88 coupe 91 LX NMRA Pure Street 5120

11-20-2001, 08:33 PM	#20
Mach 1 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,866	andy669 - Maybe the book i got the info. from isnt accurate. I can only say that I got it from a book, but I also know you cant believe everything you read. And I would have to disagree that the A9p is a rare computer from a Mclaren car. Certainly Mclaren car was nothing special and didnt warrant its own computer, and I got one with a Mass air conversion kit that I ordered from Best products. __________________ 2002 GT 1993 GT (SOLD) '93 Mustang GT RHC member #142