im singing the snow white blues

drtbiker · 10-16-2002, 10:38 PM

Now i am confused... i want to change the O2's but dont have the money, I am getting dentation, i retard the timing on the car, and the thing doesnt even move. I put the timing back to the stock setting gave it 50psi of fuel, no matter what fuel setting i put w/fuel reg on my a/f gauge it was reading rich at idle and at wot, there plugs are completely white. Are the O2's giving my computer false readings? I dont know what to do....
i am a lttle angry because i was embarresed at the track i ran a 14.5 at the best run, for what i have i feel i have a slight computer problem....

thanks
raini

drtbiker · 10-16-2002, 11:22 PM

how do u know when the o2's are bad???? They are pretty black????

drudis · 10-17-2002, 09:12 AM

At full throttle, the O2's shouldnt make a difference.
Suggestion: Run SEVERAL bottle of fuel injector cleaner thru the tank.
Pull you spark plugs to see if any of them got metal specs (piston particles) on them...

drtbiker · 10-17-2002, 09:56 AM

how do u check the injectors to make sure they are working right? Also what else could cause this problem

chris91LX · 10-17-2002, 10:27 AM

Just a stupid question, but are you sure your pulling the spout connector when you are changing your timing? And putting it back in after you changed it? It's usually the stupid things that get me, that freaking spout connector has gotten me more than once.

10-17-2002, 12:30 PM

Is your check engine light on? If so, read the codes. If your O2s are bad then you will get a trouble code from your O2s. How come you set the fuel psi. at 50? The stock setting is between 39-42psi. As far as the fuel injectors go, I don't know how you can check them yourself. You can take them somewhere to get cleaned, but I've heard the price for a cleaning is close to the price of brand new injectors, so I don't know if I'd suggest that. When is the last time you changed your fuel filter? Might want to try that.

drtbiker · 10-17-2002, 12:55 PM

i had the fuel pressure set at 37 running lean to my suprise so i bumped up the fuel pressure on purpose to an enormous amount so that i know i am not just letting it run to lean, yeah i removed the spout connetctor every time lol i know i have left it in once by mistake but when i set it each time i did take it out and put it back in....

LX XLR8R · 10-17-2002, 02:16 PM

try trying another TFI moduale..one time when mine went bad it made my car cut out up top and the plugs were allways white as can be no matter what the FP was at

b4 that i never knew that the TFI had a effct on fuel..i allways thought it was just spark

10-16-2002, 10:38 PM	#1
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	im singing the snow white blues Now i am confused... i want to change the O2's but dont have the money, I am getting dentation, i retard the timing on the car, and the thing doesnt even move. I put the timing back to the stock setting gave it 50psi of fuel, no matter what fuel setting i put w/fuel reg on my a/f gauge it was reading rich at idle and at wot, there plugs are completely white. Are the O2's giving my computer false readings? I dont know what to do.... i am a lttle angry because i was embarresed at the track i ran a 14.5 at the best run, for what i have i feel i have a slight computer problem.... thanks raini __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

10-16-2002, 11:22 PM	#2
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	how do u know when the o2's are bad???? They are pretty black???? __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

10-17-2002, 09:12 AM	#3
drudis Moderator Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Livonia, MI, USA Posts: 1,194	At full throttle, the O2's shouldnt make a difference. Suggestion: Run SEVERAL bottle of fuel injector cleaner thru the tank. Pull you spark plugs to see if any of them got metal specs (piston particles) on them... __________________ Darius Rudis, Moderator Corner Carvers Delight 1989 Mustang LX - Open Track Car http://www.dariusrudis.com

10-17-2002, 09:56 AM	#4
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	how do u check the injectors to make sure they are working right? Also what else could cause this problem __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

10-17-2002, 10:27 AM	#5
chris91LX Registered Member Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Suburban Chicago, Hanover Park Posts: 695	Just a stupid question, but are you sure your pulling the spout connector when you are changing your timing? And putting it back in after you changed it? It's usually the stupid things that get me, that freaking spout connector has gotten me more than once. __________________ My Ford Club http://www.midwestfords.org/ Best time N/A 12.9 @ 107 1.711 60' 125 shot - 12.04 @ 113 1.59 60'

10-17-2002, 12:30 PM	#6
Simi Stang Guest Posts: n/a	O2s & fuel prsi. Is your check engine light on? If so, read the codes. If your O2s are bad then you will get a trouble code from your O2s. How come you set the fuel psi. at 50? The stock setting is between 39-42psi. As far as the fuel injectors go, I don't know how you can check them yourself. You can take them somewhere to get cleaned, but I've heard the price for a cleaning is close to the price of brand new injectors, so I don't know if I'd suggest that. When is the last time you changed your fuel filter? Might want to try that.

10-17-2002, 12:55 PM	#7
drtbiker Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mt. Prospect,IL Posts: 474	i had the fuel pressure set at 37 running lean to my suprise so i bumped up the fuel pressure on purpose to an enormous amount so that i know i am not just letting it run to lean, yeah i removed the spout connetctor every time lol i know i have left it in once by mistake but when i set it each time i did take it out and put it back in.... __________________ 87-ford-mustang-SOLD! mods: 3:73's, off road h-pipe, b303 cam in gt- 40 motor w/ Power Plus intake, edelbrock 70mm tb & egr spacer, 72mm C&L, bbk long tubes, tremec tranny, centerforce dual friction clutch, upr and lwr CA's 255lph FP and soon more to come.... when i have money again SOME ADVICE Don't do burn outs in reverse it is very expensive New times with dead hook on dr's 13.27@103 with 2.0 60 foots w/100lb system Fastest time to date: 12.8@113

10-17-2002, 02:16 PM	#8
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	try trying another TFI moduale..one time when mine went bad it made my car cut out up top and the plugs were allways white as can be no matter what the FP was at b4 that i never knew that the TFI had a effct on fuel..i allways thought it was just spark __________________ 95 undecided cubes, AFR 185s,undecided cam, undecided intake, and a 150 hit 89 "turbonotch" 2.3T You might want to hold on..i saw this on a cartoon once

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