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fordkid68 07-10-2002 02:54 PM

2002 mustang
 
ok how much tourque do the 2002 mustangs have. and what are the rear gears. I know it has 193 HP but would like to know tourgue/gears.

it's my sisters car and she doesn't know. she doesn't care all she cares about is it's A new mustang and it's her's.

ok it is 2002 V6 3.8L automatic transmision.


hope thats anough info.

thanks
ford kid

DAN-MAN 07-10-2002 04:04 PM

I'm not for sure, but I remember reading that the newer v-6's made 140-150 hp at the rear wheels. At the crank, they're suppose to make 190.

I think that the gears are 3.08's or 3.27's.

My sister has a '98 model v-6 automatic. Horsepower on them's suppose to be 170 at the crank (I think).

If it were my car, I'd put on one of those intercooled ATI Pro Chargers on it.

fordkid68 07-10-2002 04:36 PM

hey thanks.

yea I told her she should do somethin about the performance but she is just happy she isn't driving her old mustang.(don't ask why) must be A girl thing.

thanks again.
ford kid

GodStang 07-10-2002 05:42 PM

They have a 2.73 rear in in a 7.5" rear end. They have 190hp at the fly wheel. With out the spare tire it runs a 14.96 in the quarter mile (done by MM&FF). Check out this web site for more on cars. www.carpoint.msn.com used car section.

DAN-MAN 07-10-2002 09:00 PM

Ok, so I was wrong on the rear end gear. Oh well, close enough.

fordkid68 07-11-2002 12:37 AM

GodStang- thanks that helps alot. and damn they run high 14's with 2.73.


well then my next question is how much do they weigh.


thanks again GodStang

ford kid

Former86Camaro 07-11-2002 01:11 PM

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You sure you don't have 3.73. That is good for a stock or lightly modded V6... Connsider the stock gt runs 15.1~14.9 our pretty fast..

DAN-MAN 07-11-2002 01:19 PM

Are you talking about the newer '99 and up GT's? If you are, then I think that you might be wrong. MM&FF ran one on the drag strip and it ran like mid 14's (if i'm remembering this right). It was a convertible. I can go home tonight and look through past issues and find out.

tireburner163 07-12-2002 01:32 AM

that MM/FF car that ran a high 14 was a 5-speed....a auto is gonna be slower, I'd say a mid 15. But you gonna relize that it got a high 14 with a KILLER driver, it's gonna be slower than that with your average driver behind the wheel. 99+ GT's can go high 13's in th real world and MM/FF got one down to 13.53.

GodStang 07-12-2002 10:25 PM

Could not of said it better tire burner. All 3.8L have 2.73 gears stock.

02slashstang 07-16-2002 12:00 AM

2002 V6 Mustang has 193 HP and 225 Torque...

Cheers!

02slashstang 07-16-2002 12:01 AM

Also they come with 3.27 rear gears stock.

Cheers!

fordkid68 07-16-2002 02:26 AM

hey thanks I thought it was 193 instead of 190. well doesn't really matter. thanks about the tourgue I didn't think any one was going to answer that questions.

02slashstang 07-16-2002 08:17 PM

No Problem!

Cheers!

mustang2000 08-21-2002 05:26 PM

the new mustangs from 01 to 02 has 193 hp, 225 lbs of torque and both gt and v-6 hve 3.27 rear axle gear ratio, and the v-6 have a t-5 tremec transmission and the gt's have t-45 tremec transmission, 99-00 is the same except for it has 190 hp

GodStang 08-21-2002 09:52 PM

I am not positive but pretty sure that a tremec and a T-5 are two different types of Tranny's. I would like to admit that I was wrong and it is 3.27's not 2.73 like the 1994-1998. PLease take advantage of this because I do not admit wrong doings most of the time.

mustang2000 08-21-2002 10:12 PM

well i read it among www.vehix.com and read their reviews and stuff about the 2000 mustangs and thats what it says so i am going by that and plus it also says on the peice of sticker on the side of my door inside and it says t-5 not sure if its tremec but it seems to be true when i look for a shifter for my car on steeda their steeda tri-ax short throw shifter for the t-5 transmission it says tremec on it but i am pretty sure i am right though but i could be wrong

MustngMan2002 08-24-2002 03:17 PM

I have a 2002 Ford Mustang V6 Auto and I have flowmaster single in single out and a cold air intake with a K&N on it and I was wondering how much HP I got know b\c when my car shifes in to 2nd i get rubber and if I am lucky I can get a 3rd??

mustang2000 08-24-2002 06:32 PM

well i am not exactly sure but with a cold air intake it is up to 20 more hp and flowmasters single exhaust maybe 10 to 15 more hp but if u have an automatic then u either one shouldnt be peeling out unless its a stick and 2 u are giving it too much gas so the max hp i think u can get i am not no pro is 35 more hp so u have a total if maxed is 223 hp if its maxed out but i doubt that it is the best way to find out is to do a dyno but that will cost ya

GodStang 08-24-2002 11:32 PM

Sorry to say it but I would be surprised if you had more than 200-205 at the flywheel with just single exhaust even though it is Flows. I have Cold air, dual 2 chamber flows, offroad h-pipe, underdrive pullies, k&N amd I have about 20 hp over stock.

Mustang 2000 the Tri-ax shifter is the best. Get it you will not regret it. Takes about a month to loosen up. After that it was great for me.

02slashstang 08-25-2002 01:46 AM

MustngMan2002,

Depending on your brand of intake, you probably gained 5-7 HP from the CAI. You might want to think about getting duals. Now that your stang is breathing more balance it with some duals!
Even y-pipe quasi duals are better than the single exhaust.
Better yet, get a set of GT duals! Only drawback on the GT duals is the loss of low end torque, BUT you gain more on the high end. (above 2500RPM or so)

Food for thought:

There is a new CAI that is available for 99+ by Demolet.

Its a full length CAI Densecharger...

According to the link Ive listed..you get gains of 12.5 HP and 14.8 lbs of torque! Dynotested!

http://www.stungbymystangmotorsports...argerdyno.html

It was tested on a 99+ stock V6 mustang.

:D

Cheers!

02slashstang 08-25-2002 01:55 AM

well i am not exactly sure but with a cold air intake it is up to 20 more hp and flowmasters single exhaust maybe 10 to 15 more hp

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Also the flowmaster muffler alone is not going to give you 10 to 15 more HP over stock. I don't think they improve exhaust flow that much...maybe 2-3 HP if that. With duals you might gain 10HP depending on the brand...Do some research online and see what you can find out. GOOD LUCK!

Cheers!

MustngMan2002 08-25-2002 10:42 PM

GodStang
 
Well u have a 94 V6 and i have a 2002 V6 so there is alot more on a 2002 then a 94 i know u have a H pipe but if i can beat 94 gts and I know i have around 224 or 230 HP and i went racing last night and i was power breaking it to get my rpms up and i couldn't stop spinning for chap on a stick. and oh yes i can get a 2nd gear. i have a Dense Charger cold air intake

mustang2000 08-25-2002 10:48 PM

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Also the flowmaster muffler alone is not going to give you 10 to 15 more HP over stock. I don't think they improve exhaust flow that much...maybe 2-3 HP if that. With duals you might gain 10HP depending on the brand...Do some research online and see what you can find out. GOOD LUCK!

Cheers! [/B][/QUOTE]

well it depends but with duals u get up to 20 hp more and plus if they put in a bigger pipe for the exhaust can also increase hp cause its more that goes out and not less and ford mufflers are more restrictive then the flowmasters i put in a single exhaust with 2 and 1/4 exhaust with an aerochamer muffler and according to them they said they are alot better in performance then the single flowmasters and i noticed a big difference in hp and acceleration

MustngMan2002 08-25-2002 10:49 PM

I really just want to know what i am running in the 1/4 b\c i am allways going to Galveston and racing at cherry hill and i raced a honda and whiped his butt in the long run he took me on start b\c i couldn't stop spinning and when i stoped spinning was after red line it shifted around 6000 RPMs and everyone said my font end came off the ground so i don't know if it did or not

mustang2000 08-25-2002 10:57 PM

u probably have 230 hp not sure cause the cold air intake can give u up to 20 hp i am not sure that is including the K&N air filter or not if its not the K&N air fillter can give u up to 15 more hp with increase with acceleration and faster response in throttle the single flows i am not sure if u got just muffler with the stock size pipes or got bigger ones but u might get up 10 to 15 more hp estimating anyways the older mustang gts dont have that much hp they only have 225 hp with 285 lbs of torque i think so which it wouldnt really suprise me with what u got that u would beat one

GodStang 08-26-2002 11:23 AM

Also with the older GT's if they have more than 80,000 miles good chance they have dropped about 20hp due to ware and tear and timeing chain sagging. So good chance if you are racing a stock 1994-1998 GT and they have not kept up with it than they have about 200hp. Due to the less weight the 99-02 v-6's should smoke a 94-98 gt if both stock or near stock. Plus 99-02 have better gears which will also help them beat the GT.

Keep beating people in your v-6s because we need respect too.

99Pony3.8 08-26-2002 01:29 PM

OK, I have to set the record straight here. There is no way a CAI kit is giving 20 HP. You are lucky to get 5 HP without changing the MAS. I have seen the dyno results of the new Demolet kit and don't see how replacing the rubber tube after the MAS with a plastic pipe alone will add that much HP over their other CAI's. Its not mechanically possible. The kit is just like the MAC kit now, but plastic, and MAC only claims up to 5 HP. I'd like to see an independant, objective dyno test first before I would trust thier claims. CAI's are mostly eye candy attached to a K&N filter. Tests have proven the only part of the kit that improves HP is the K&N. The other stuff is just for looks.

GodStang - I have to disagree with you regarding a 99 or newer 3.8 beating an older GT. Yes, any car will lose HP after a great deal of wear, but the GT will still win. The GT has a ton of torque that a stock 3.8 can not touch. Usually a V-8 with the same HP numbers will still smoke a V-6 on torque alone. Any dragger will tell you it is torque that gets you off the line. I'd put my money on the GT.

mustang2000 08-26-2002 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by 99Pony3.8
OK, I have to set the record straight here. There is no way a CAI kit is giving 20 HP. You are lucky to get 5 HP without changing the MAS. I have seen the dyno results of the new Demolet kit and don't see how replacing the rubber tube after the MAS with a plastic pipe alone will add that much HP over their other CAI's. Its not mechanically possible. The kit is just like the MAC kit now, but plastic, and MAC only claims up to 5 HP. I'd like to see an independant, objective dyno test first before I would trust thier claims. CAI's are mostly eye candy attached to a K&N filter. Tests have proven the only part of the kit that improves HP is the K&N. The other stuff is just for looks.

GodStang - I have to disagree with you regarding a 99 or newer 3.8 beating an older GT. Yes, any car will lose HP after a great deal of wear, but the GT will still win. The GT has a ton of torque that a stock 3.8 can not touch. Usually a V-8 with the same HP numbers will still smoke a V-6 on torque alone. Any dragger will tell you it is torque that gets you off the line. I'd put my money on the GT.

one it depends on the bran of CAI u get mac claim u get up to 20 hp more cause if u get 3 or 5 more hp thats probably the K&N filter since thats what comes with it and since the cold air intake basically brings the air straight to the engine cause most people take off the silencer and another thing the older gts a v-6 can too beat it depending what u put in the v-6 and u cannot say torque alone can beat a v-6 cause the new v-6 have 225 lbs of torque and the older gts have like 285 they do not have 302 in them like the new gts so in another words YES a new v-6 can beat a older GT by the way 225 hp is with the 98 gts 94-96 gts have 220 hp and another thing is that anyone can increase the torque on their cars but they have to replace the axle cause the axle they put on it wont stand the power so it will bend or break

GodStang 08-26-2002 04:07 PM

MM&FF ran a green 1999 V6 to a best of 14.96 @ I think 92 MPH. The 1994-1995 GT ran 15's and the 1996 ran 14.9-15.0 somewhere in there. That is all of them fresh off the factory line with less than 10,000 miles. As far as 1997-1998 I am not sure what they ran. MM&FF where making a huge deal about the V-6 beating the 302's and 1996 281. That is the only reason I said that.

As far as CAI they have been doing them in different magaizanes and unless you have a cool sticker to put on your car you will only get between 5-10hp. It is best to make your own CAI, than spend tons of money for one. Unless you like the looks of it.

If you would like to see any of the aritcles I will look for them and send them if you would like them just ask.

mustang2000 08-26-2002 06:28 PM

thats cool i kinda knew that a new v-6 would even one get close to the older gts or something they dont have that much hp more then the new v-6 anyways i feel sorry for the guy that asked how much hp he wanted since we were arguing about the whole thing anyways doesnt a CAI also give u more torque i was reading the website for the new v-6 they were saying something not to extend the mas or something cause u would lose hp and torque i aint sure though

MustngMan2002 08-26-2002 08:41 PM

So what do u guys think i sould get next i got wheels and tires i want some stuff to give me more HP i am thinking about getting NX wet kit nos but i don't want to mess something up. So u guys tell me what i sould get next

GodStang 08-26-2002 09:40 PM

I always thought that NOS would mess up v-6's but I think all the new kits out the engines handle them pretty well if you do not over abuse it. I think that NOS would be a good idea.

I HEARD that Nopi stickers give you like 300hp and you can run 8's in the 1/4. You might want some of them.

tireburner163 08-26-2002 11:11 PM

mustang2000, I'm sorry I didn't catch this thread earlier because you are HUGELY misinformed about how much hp stuff like CAI and mufflers add. CAI is worth 1-3hp on a stock motor, and just a single in, single out flowmaster is worth maybe 1hp. Hell a whole cat-back is only worth about 5 or so hp. CAI is the biggest rip off of all mustang performace parts, it's just eye candy.

New V-6's are about on par with 96-98 GT's. A 94-95 should edge it out. A fox should kick it's *** pretty good.

mustang2000 08-26-2002 11:15 PM

oh ok but it hought u get more hp if u were to take the silencer off and i thought u have to have the cold air intake to be able to take it off cause then the car would be getting hot air instead of cold or something if thats not true then heck maybe i should take my silencer off to gain more hp but not sure if that would ruin the warranty or not

tireburner163 08-26-2002 11:36 PM

just yank the silencer....you don't need CAI to take it out. Stangs kinda have CAI from the factory, they draw air from inside the fender area.

mustang2000 08-26-2002 11:38 PM

so what does the silencer do anyways and does it give me more hp just out of curiousity sorry if i am bothering u but thanks for helping

tireburner163 08-27-2002 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by mustang2000
so what does the silencer do anyways and does it give me more hp just out of curiousity sorry if i am bothering u but thanks for helping
I does just what it's name implies.....it quitens down the air coming into the ducting....it for those naby panby types who don't like there car to be loud.

GodStang 08-27-2002 11:24 AM

I would like to know how to join the ricer hater's club anyone know?

MustngMan2002 08-27-2002 05:19 PM

Ya Godstang i am thinking about going with a prochager for my car if i put a prochager in there it will give me 345 stock

tireburner163 08-27-2002 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by MustngMan2002
Ya Godstang i am thinking about going with a prochager for my car if i put a prochager in there it will give me 345 stock
What mods do you have now? Because just adding a blower isn't going to bump the hp from 190 to 345.

GodStang 08-27-2002 08:08 PM

According to Muscle Mustang and Fast ford and Procharger they have a new blower for 1999-2002 that will put the hp on a stock v6 to 345hp.

Hammer 08-27-2002 10:52 PM

Couple of corrections:

2002 base model V-6s with 5 speeds are TR-3650 transmissions

94-95 GTs used pushrod 5 liter engines rated at 215 hp
96-97 GTs used modular V8 motors rated at 215
98 GTs used modular V8s rated at 225

As far as a blower on a 3.8...

I checked out the info, the 345 hp Tuner Kit requires the purchase of larger fuel injectors, a custom programmed computer chip (hopefully custom tuned from a dyno...) and an upgraded fuel system.

It's certainly not a "bolt on" affair....

Being a Procharger owner myself.... I would be extremely weary about putting 11 psi of boost on a bone stock 3.8. The stock bottom end may be OK with that kind of boost for a while.... but I wouldn't make it your daily driver....

Also, I THINK (not sure) that the base models come with 7.5 inch rears. If that is the case, it may not take to kindly to that kind of power.....

Don't let the ricers fool ya... If you want more horsepower, you just don't "kick up" the boost. Its a fast and furious myth and the reason I see pieces of blown VTEC engines all over the track quite a bit....

GodStang 08-28-2002 01:38 PM

I agree with Hammer. They recommed going to 3.73's on blown v6's. I would go to an 8.8" with 3.73's If it where me. Well actually I am looking for one now for my pony.

Dark_5.0 08-30-2002 12:14 PM

I have found this entire thread to be funny as hell. The 99+ stangs dont run 14's stock....they are damn lucky to break into the very high 15's.........Mag racing is for ricers.

I am at the track EVERY weekend and trust me the new V6's cant hang with "any" V8 stang.

I think a 96' 4.6 convertible auto.....Would edge out a New V6 5 speed.

MM&FF got a 13.12 with my cobra and I am not getting anywhere near that.

Take it to the tack before you start talking #'s

JMO,

tireburner163 08-30-2002 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
I have found this entire thread to be funny as hell. The 99+ stangs dont run 14's stock....they are damn lucky to break into the very high 15's.........Mag racing is for ricers.

I am at the track EVERY weekend and trust me the new V6's cant hang with "any" V8 stang.

I think a 96' 4.6 convertible auto.....Would edge out a New V6 5 speed.

MM&FF got a 13.12 with my cobra and I am not getting anywhere near that.

Take it to the tack before you start talking #'s

JMO,

hey hey...guess what buddy, YOUR WRONG.

The new V-6's make 190hp and weight in at 3066(NADA), that's enough power to get into the 15's

With a average driver they are mid/high 15's. Maybe you pissed that a V-6 can take some V-8 stangs, I duno.

So your Cobra isn't running 12.2's....ummmmmmmm.....maybe it's because your not good enough of a driver to get it there. I'm not saying I am either, but just because YOU can't get your car to run 13.2 doesn't mean some else can't.

soc 08-30-2002 02:05 PM

I'm not joining the which car is faster argument, I just have a few questions. THis is my first post here, I purchased a base model 2002 v-6 last month and am considering my options for adding performance. Can anyone offer some suggestions without going overboard quite yet (ie blower, etc). Cold Air Intake, dual exhaust, flowmasters, changing pulleys?? Pros/Cons? I'm sure theres tons of mods that I havent heard about yet.

tireburner163 08-30-2002 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by soc
I'm not joining the which car is faster argument, I just have a few questions. THis is my first post here, I purchased a base model 2002 v-6 last month and am considering my options for adding performance. Can anyone offer some suggestions without going overboard quite yet (ie blower, etc). Cold Air Intake, dual exhaust, flowmasters, changing pulleys?? Pros/Cons? I'm sure theres tons of mods that I havent heard about yet.
Is it a auto of a 5-speed?

Off-road h-pipe, GT take off cat-back(throw on some flows or the like if you want it louder), pullies, throw in a K&N and yank the silencer(don't waste your money on Cold air induction), and throw in a set of 3.73 or 4.10 gears.

soc 08-30-2002 02:15 PM

Sorry, forgot to mention that it's a 5spd. How exactly do I remove the silencer? ANd how easy is it to install the K&N filter? I'm new to all of this...

Dark_5.0 08-30-2002 02:37 PM

More funny stuff........

I dont want to get into a mag racing contest. So I will leave this alone.

But like I said If you are taking the time a magazine ran with a **** load of VHT sprayed on the track and a 5000 rpm launch and a professional driver power shifting every gear. And saying that it is possible in the real world. Then obviously our opinions differ and I will leave it at that.

Considering my time would translate to a 13.3 @ sealevel. I dont think that my driving is in question.

I have seen at least 100 different 99+V6 stangs run at the track how about you?

The best I have seen Is a high 15..........The guy that ran that has a 99 cobra that runs 12.5's with a untouched engine. So I am pretty sure he can drive the wheels off of about anything.

I dont care if a V6 stang can outrun some V8 stangs or not. Just as long as they cant outrun my GT;)

We will just have to agree to disagree.

No flames just my opinion:)
Later,


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