air induction

Spyder1914 · 04-15-2002, 08:16 AM

I saw on a forum a while ago, somebody said the cold air intake didnt produce any more power than just a K&N air filter. After that I emailed a tech at mac performance and he confirmed that saying, it doesnt help because it pulls the air from the same place, its just a shiny tube for looks. He said you need to get a new 73mm mass air filter. Is this the part that tells the engine to pull in more air? Is there a way to eliminate your air box? Or what other thigs can you do?

99Pony3.8 · 04-15-2002, 10:36 AM

I posted that response, glad you were able to confirm it. Most people think I'm nuts when I tell them CAI's are crap. What you actually need is a new mass air sensor. The sensor is what is limiting performance - it is very restrictive. It is an aluminum tube located at the back of the air box. Getting a larger, "bored" out sensor will get you some real HP (about 10) as opposed to 3 with a CAI. Check out C&L performance for info on the kit I got. It costs about $250, but is is worth it. Pro-Flow also makes one for 3.8's, but they cost about $500. C&L is at http://www.cnlperformance.com/v6maf.html. and Pro-Flow is at http://www.pro-flow.com.

GodStang · 04-15-2002, 02:28 PM

I agree about it not producing HP. It is more or less getting the airfilter out of the engine compartment to clean up the look. It is for looks. I made a CAI on my V-6 and it just looks alot better then the air silencer.

Bake · 04-15-2002, 10:07 PM

what i have done to mine is. instead of having the little tiny hole where the air silencer usualy is to allow air to enter my K&N, i have completely eliminated the air filter housing (tood a dremel to is and only kept the ring that clamps the filter to the sensor and one peg to hold it up, will post pics soon) it is now a 360 degree filter (ALL of the cone is exposed) it gets fairly cool air because of the currents that flow through the engine bay as you drive and yes i know it is getting more warm air. but there is definately a gain in hp. avg before was 177hp avg and now it is 182hp. <- using a g-tech properly on a really flat street getting up to 100MPH not torqing the car on shifts.

as i said above, i will post some pics soon. next step for me tho will be a new sensor. but i have seen what i have done on lots of cars like GT's that have been moded and older 5.0's and even on f-bodies..

-kyle

GodStang · 04-16-2002, 11:36 AM

I used a 90 degree elbow and turned it into my wheel whale. Cost me all of $10. No air silencer.

04-15-2002, 08:16 AM	#1
Spyder1914 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 42	air induction I saw on a forum a while ago, somebody said the cold air intake didnt produce any more power than just a K&N air filter. After that I emailed a tech at mac performance and he confirmed that saying, it doesnt help because it pulls the air from the same place, its just a shiny tube for looks. He said you need to get a new 73mm mass air filter. Is this the part that tells the engine to pull in more air? Is there a way to eliminate your air box? Or what other thigs can you do?

04-15-2002, 10:36 AM	#2
99Pony3.8 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 44	I posted that response, glad you were able to confirm it. Most people think I'm nuts when I tell them CAI's are crap. What you actually need is a new mass air sensor. The sensor is what is limiting performance - it is very restrictive. It is an aluminum tube located at the back of the air box. Getting a larger, "bored" out sensor will get you some real HP (about 10) as opposed to 3 with a CAI. Check out C&L performance for info on the kit I got. It costs about $250, but is is worth it. Pro-Flow also makes one for 3.8's, but they cost about $500. C&L is at http://www.cnlperformance.com/v6maf.html. and Pro-Flow is at http://www.pro-flow.com. __________________ 99 Mustang 3.8L, C&L mass-air system, GT dual exhust and rear bumper, Maximum Motorsports 4-point K frame brace, full length sub frame connectors and strut tower brace.

04-15-2002, 02:28 PM	#3
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	I agree about it not producing HP. It is more or less getting the airfilter out of the engine compartment to clean up the look. It is for looks. I made a CAI on my V-6 and it just looks alot better then the air silencer. __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra

04-16-2002, 11:36 AM	#5
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	I used a 90 degree elbow and turned it into my wheel whale. Cost me all of $10. No air silencer. __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra

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04-15-2002, 10:07 PM	#4
Bake Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ancaster Posts: 35	what i have done to mine is. instead of having the little tiny hole where the air silencer usualy is to allow air to enter my K&N, i have completely eliminated the air filter housing (tood a dremel to is and only kept the ring that clamps the filter to the sensor and one peg to hold it up, will post pics soon) it is now a 360 degree filter (ALL of the cone is exposed) it gets fairly cool air because of the currents that flow through the engine bay as you drive and yes i know it is getting more warm air. but there is definately a gain in hp. avg before was 177hp avg and now it is 182hp. <- using a g-tech properly on a really flat street getting up to 100MPH not torqing the car on shifts. as i said above, i will post some pics soon. next step for me tho will be a new sensor. but i have seen what i have done on lots of cars like GT's that have been moded and older 5.0's and even on f-bodies.. -kyle