Speed to a 3.8?
 

Help!!! I need to stop getting outran by these japanese cars. What would be one of the better things to do to my 3.8? I have around $400 maybe a little more that i can spend on some performance. A buddy of mine reccomened a 3.73 gear rear end. I am not sure about what this will do to my gas mileage, and top speed, but i nkow that it helps a lot on 0-60 time. If anyone can help, please post a message.
Thanks,
Jason

No doubt, go with gears they make a huge difference in acceleration. If I had a 3.8 I would go with 4.10's insteda of 3.73's......You need all the help you can get.

I agree with Dark 5.0. Will not bother gas too much. Top speed what does it matter when will you be curising around at 120 + mph? You can get a ford set for $139 and installed for like $200.

4.1 sounds great, but what about when i take this car for long trips? I dont want to be at 5500 rpms driving down the interstate. How big of a difference is the 4.1 compared to the 3.73? I have also heard that the 4.1 is more delicate than the others?

Re: Speed to a 3.8?
 

I had a 6 Psi Power Dyne Super charger Original for My 91 5.0 when it was stil a 5.0 Not convertated to the 5.7L. Anyway With very little Hard work On My Part I Had this Hooked up to my 2000 3.8L V-6 and was turning a full 273 HP at 5,500. Verse the Stock 190 Hp I think :confused: Anyway Other then the Blower Kit I have made No Mods to it which means On its Bone stock 15" rims and stock rear end I have to start In 2nd and come off gently on the clutch or:cool: I will Torch My Tires:cool: Power Slide:p Like this is a Bad thig?:rolleyes: Its Not Unless the Cops see her Butt side ways:eek:

Point? Look for a used Blower with your stock pistons and rings 6 to 8 psi wouldnt blow a Piston and would be fine on Pump Gas.

Miss mischief why did you put a chevy engine into your mustang?

A Ford 5.7L Is a 351?

Getty Up Go! Engine and Transmision Came From a F-250 SD with a 5.7L and Heavy duty Transmision.

A Chevy 5.7L Is a 350?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Re: Speed to a 3.8?
 

what year is your 3.8
i have a 2001 3.8 with no mods and i have no problems beating most imports

1995. 145 bhp. I am not sure what my 0-60 time is, but it is a bit sluggish compared to the newer cars today. I got a price of $199 for the 3.73 gears, and aroun $350 for the installation. I dont have that kind of dough to lose gas mileage for a quicker car. I still drive it on long trips. I think i might go with the Diablo performance chip with a MAC cold air intake. That should help a bit, untill i graduate in august of 2004, then i can get something nice like a Mustang GT, or the Honda Civic Si. If Ford made the mustang a 4 cylinder car for cheaper insurnce purposes,and if it could do 0-60 in 7.2 and get at leats 24mpg city, then i would go with that, but that honda V-tec is amazing. I'm an American all the way, but if it starts to hurt my wallet, then i will have to jump ship to a more affordable vehicle.

Jason

Miss Mischief

Doing the mathmatical conversion a 302 is a 4.9 and a 351 is a 5.7. Since Chevy's 350 is also 5.7 Ford bumpped it up one to a 5.8 L. And the 4.9 up to a 5.0. So the 302 is a 5.0 a Chevy 350 is a 5.7 and a Ford 351 is a 5.8. I was just curious because down here everyone put chevy engines into everything but chevys.

and everyone puts ford rearends in everything else but fords

If she is a 5.8L I will change that and My way of thinking :) But I remeber the 305 Chevey was a 5.0 Model avalible in there RS Model camareo "Just cause I hate them Doesnt mean I dont respect them" Anyway:D Me and My Husband Love to go to Auto Shows With Getty Up Go! The 351 Converstion and "Ghost" His Classic, we would walk by all the beautiful shinny T Buckets and Dueces and Put a Big Chevy Bow Tye sticker Over the $10,000,000 Chomed Ford Radiator They had on the Nose of these things :cool: :cool: If you never Noticed 90% of them where Built with a chevy short Block:eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :mad:

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What exactly do you think the average 1/4 mile time for a new V6 5 speed mustang is. All I see is 16's were I live @ 79-82mph.

Its getting scary over here there is a butt load of 13-15 second imports with just bolt ons and slicks.

Average should be mid 15's at least. I have seen good drivers with no spare tire and no jack get 14.96 in the quarter.

Mid 15's is nowhere near average for a V6 stang.

Nevermind, I dont even know what I am doing in this forum.

Later,

you are not gonna get into the 14's unless you have some mods

A stock 99 with spare and jack removed can get into the HIGH 14's. Now 1994 - 1998 should be mid 16's in the quarter.

you are not gonna get into the 14's by dropping 15 to 20 pounds
now maybe if you drop the 15'to 20 pounds and add a cold air intake and dual exhaust

Why do all of yall have problems with a V6 running with the older V8's? The 1999 and later V6's have 25 HP-35 HP less than 94-98 Gts but has 200 lbs less than those years. That makes up for alot. Not all of it but alot of it. PLus some of the V6's have 3.27's stock while the V8's have 2.73's.

HP is great but the 94-98 GT's have a little thing called torque. The difference between me and you is you are quoting times out of a magazine (ie, mag racing)......On the other hand I practicaly live at the track and I am telling you what I see.

I have seen 99+ V6 stangs spraying a 75 shot and running high 14's and I seen a guy spray a hundred shot and run a 14.4.

Mostly what I see is V6 stangs getting spanked by many a car length. When my 5.0 was stock it ran a 15.2 and I never even came close to losing to a V6 stang.

I am just calling it like I see it.

i own a 2001 v6 5 speed and i have 000000000 mods i have ran a 15.56
that was my quickest run. i have raced lots of v8 mustangs
most of the 87-93 v8's that i raced that where stock with lots of miles i beat but if they have any thing done to them at all i did'nt have a chance al the 94-98 v8's i raced i got smoked. i did beat 1 96 gt mustang it was an automatic with exhaust problems

Thats what I wanted to hear. You have actually been to the track and ran your car and know what it runs. Who can argue with that?

That is an awesome time for a V6 stang "IMO." Obviously you know how to bang through the gears.

What is the average time you see for 99+ V6 5 speed stangs in your area?





Later,

i average about a 15.8 or 15.9 in my car right now but thats stock
i would have to say all the v6's i've seen run would probobly average about a 16.0 to 17.0
i have seen acouple really slow ones this one kid i know took his to the track he owns a 2002 convertable automatic his fastest time was like a 17.1

my stang video


here is a small clip of me racing a 5.0 mustang at the dragstrip

Hey thanks for keeping it real. That falls right in line with what I see at the track.

I will check out your video tomorrow at work. I have DSL at work and a crappy dial up connection at home:o

Its always fun to beat cars with more cylinders or mods than you. Hell a few bolt ons and some gears and your car will be pretty damn quick even though its missing 2 cylinders;)

Later,

hey after you check out the video let me know what you think
later

Hey nice 5.0 kill. It looked like you really raped him on reaction time.:eek:

What did the 5.0 run in the video?

Nice kill,

he ran like a low 16 i ran like a 15.8 on that run and i beat him by like a half a car length

The new V6 mustangs i've heard of getting mid 15's in good weather/slicks and 5 speed, but most are high 15, low 16 from what i've seen. they also have 190 horsepower. the older ones with 145 horsepower are low 17 second cars which is a little slower than most non-turbo imports. Heck, my jeep can almost beat miatas :D
For 400 dollars i would definately invest in gears, the difference is HUGE. 4.10:1 gears may be a little steep for the powerband of your engine, let alone the grip of your tires. 3.73's would be my recommendation and a set of good sticky street tires (or drag radials on back).
Other than that i wouldn't bother modifying anything until you get some ported heads/intake manifold (i've heard that the pre-99 split port heads flow more ported than a ported set of split-port heads so you didn't get the total shaft for your model year V6), then you can start making some serious power if you chose to.

i have a 5 speed 2001 i have ran in the mid 15's on a nice day
but when i put slicks on my car the fastest i ran was a 16.4
cause i realized the problem was that the v6 mustangs don't have crazy horsepower so if the wheels dont spin your not getting enough rpm's to produce the horse power you need i did alot better when my wheels spun a little cause you could get more rpm's

What RPM were you launching with slicks? Most cars will bog a little with slicks and it also depends on what size slicks you decide to use. Also better gears with slicks would help a ton. You could probably get some awesome times by beating the hell out of your car, but i do understand why you ran faster with a little bit of wheel spin. Any time you spin the tires, that's wasted traction/power, though. If you can keep an engine in the power band and have traction, that's when you get your best times obviously.
I've gone to "import" nights at Pacific Raceways (closest track to me) and it's hilarious to see the imports with slicks. Redline launches and they still bog, lol.
I've never owned a V6 stang, let alone launched one at the track but i can imagine stock gears, stock torque with slicks would bog the engine. A guy at my work that has a '93 GT basically stock (ported intake and heads, exhaust, 3.73 gears...that's all) ran a 13.5, but was launching at 5500 rpm (this was a very cool day and he got perfect traction). He said he normally ran 13.8-13.9 range when he launched lower or during higher temperatures, but getting off the line gets the best times.

Hi everyone!! I am new, but I am going to put in my 2 cents....

I have a 98 v6 auto mustang..It came stock w/ 150 horses (wow not to impressive but I am not paying for it so know complaints) anyways the fastest time that I ever got out of it was 16.3 in the 1/4...My mods at that time were a MAC cold air intake, 3:45 gears and t-lok, true dual exhaust, diablo performance chip, 57mm t-body, and a 75mm mass air.

Today my fastest time is 14.4 in the 1/4 (probably would be better if it had a different driver......I refuse to luanch it off the line) anyways my mods are almost the same except I know longer have the MAC cold air intake it was replaced w/ a Vortech S-trim supercharger.

Around here (San Antonio,Tx) you see a few 99+ hitting mid 15s....