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gizmo83 07-27-2002 12:06 AM

throttle lag?
 
I've got a problem with lag here. i have a stock 2.3L.... when i start it in the morning (when its cold) it runs and idles smothly, no lag. once i run it for about 15-30 minutes it starts idling alittle funky (drops to like 400 rpm then revs to about 2,000 and stays for a few seconds then starts all over again)... and when that starts doing that, when i'm at a dead stop and i go to take off, if the throttle isn't to the floor it lags badly. then off and on for the rest of the day it will lag and idle funky, then it'll be ok for a few minutes then lag again..... any ideas?

1hot5.0 07-27-2002 12:16 AM

If you car is mass air, I would check the mass air sensor. Also, you might want to check your tps (throttle postition sensor) and fuel injectors to make sure they are clean.

gizmo83 07-27-2002 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1hot5.0
If you car is mass air, I would check the mass air sensor. Also, you might want to check your tps (throttle postition sensor) and fuel injectors to make sure they are clean.
nope no mass air... and i ran a bottle of injector cleaner. i changed the end pice of the TPS (the part that the plug plugs onto).... seen no difference.

PKRWUD 07-27-2002 02:01 AM

It could be the MAP sensor.

Try running codes.

Take care,
~Chris

gizmo83 07-27-2002 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PKRWUD
It could be the MAP sensor.

Try running codes.

Take care,
~Chris


i've changed the MAP sensor too... still have the problem. i'll try running the codes.

Fostang 07-27-2002 10:46 AM

no mass air = no Map he he hee

But a Bap.:D Just had to say something

Agent_4573 07-27-2002 11:49 AM

If there's no map sensor how can you change it?

PKRWUD 07-27-2002 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fostang
no mass air = no Map he he hee

But a Bap.:D Just had to say something

I'm afraid you have that backwards. Mass Air systems use a BAP sensor, while Speed Density systems use a MAP sensor.

Take care,
~Chris

Fostang 07-27-2002 08:38 PM

He he hee your right. LMAO

gizmo83 07-27-2002 09:15 PM

ok guys i've ran the codes... heres what i've got...

23
83
84

KOEO EEC codes that is.

what is and where would i find the ECA, EGRC, and EGRV?

PKRWUD 07-27-2002 11:50 PM

You need to replace your TPS (Throttle Position Sensor). Buy a new one, and install it carefully. Before you snug down the screws that hold it in place, attach a DMM pos. lead to a small safety pin piercing the Green wire, and the neg lead to ground. Turn the DMM on to DC volts on the 20 volt scale. Turn the key to ON, but do not try to start. Read the DMM. It should read no lower than .9 vdc, and no more than 1.1 vdc. If it is within this range, tighten down the screws that mount the TPS to the TB. When tight, check voltage again, and make sure it's within that range. Next, slowly open the throttle by hand to WOT. The gauge should increase smoothly as you do this. Check the voltage at WOT. It must be higher than 4.5 vdc. If it is, verify once again that the screws are tight. Remove the DMM and leads & safety pin. Disconnect the neg. cable from the battery, and then turn on the headlight switch for 5 minutes, shut the switch off, and reconnect the neg battery cable.

The EGRC & EGRV solenoids are mounted on the back side of the passenger side strut tower, and will have two identical looking two wire electrical connectors plugged into the top of them. Check the connections, and make sure they are clean and tight. If you see any corrosion or damaged wires, fix them.

Take care,
~Chris

gizmo83 07-28-2002 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PKRWUD
You need to replace your TPS (Throttle Position Sensor). Buy a new one, and install it carefully. Before you snug down the screws that hold it in place, attach a DMM pos. lead to a small safety pin piercing the Green wire, and the neg lead to ground. Turn the DMM on to DC volts on the 20 volt scale. Turn the key to ON, but do not try to start. Read the DMM. It should read no lower than .9 vdc, and no more than 1.1 vdc. If it is within this range, tighten down the screws that mount the TPS to the TB. When tight, check voltage again, and make sure it's within that range. Next, slowly open the throttle by hand to WOT. The gauge should increase smoothly as you do this. Check the voltage at WOT. It must be higher than 4.5 vdc. If it is, verify once again that the screws are tight. Remove the DMM and leads & safety pin. Disconnect the neg. cable from the battery, and then turn on the headlight switch for 5 minutes, shut the switch off, and reconnect the neg battery cable.

The EGRC & EGRV solenoids are mounted on the back side of the passenger side strut tower, and will have two identical looking two wire electrical connectors plugged into the top of them. Check the connections, and make sure they are clean and tight. If you see any corrosion or damaged wires, fix them.

Take care,
~Chris




ok thanks for the help.... i guess my EGR isn't working becuz both EGRC & EGRV solenoids are missing. i found two identical plugs behind the passenger strut. but nothing to hook them to. ill pick those up at a junkyard for a few bucks along with a TPS useless a new one is cheap.


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