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FdMust88 09-18-2002 03:10 PM

Starting Problems???
 
Today I went to start my car and all I got from the starter was a whinning noise, didn't seem to engage.. I whacked it a few times and then it worked once.. I then went to the store and got a crappy rebuilt starter.. That's all I could find on short notice.. I wanted to try and hit the dragway tonight.. Guess what, that starter didn't work either.. I then replaced the starter relay/solenoid/switch, why I'm not sure, the starter was getting power... Still Nothing.. I then took the starter back and got another crappy one.. The 2nd new rebuilt starter didn't work either.. Will a new Ford Starter or better fix my problem?? What's going on here.. It sounded as if the rebuilt starters weren't engaging at all, and if they were maybe they didn't have the torque to turn the engine over???

Any help would be great...

PKRWUD 09-18-2002 03:33 PM

What's your battery voltage? What happens to it when you try and start it? Try cleaning your ground connections at the block/battery/body/frame.

Take care,
~Chris

FdMust88 09-18-2002 05:33 PM

I checked the voltage (12.4v) across the battery.. I've gone through most of the connections and they all seem to be clean and ok. I'll re-check more thoroughly tomorrow and let you know if I still have a problem.. I also ran my scanner earlier and the only could that comes up is 67 (neutral safety switch??).. I've been getting that code forever without any problems..

Oh yeah when I try to start the car it makes a loud whinning noise which seems to be coming from the starter.. This same noise came from all 3 starters, like they aren't/weren't engaging at all, maybe just spinning...

Thanks,
Matt

PKRWUD 09-18-2002 07:05 PM

Are you sure you don't have a damaged ring gear on the flywheel?

FdMust88 09-19-2002 03:13 PM

I re-checked and cleaned the connections today and everything seems to be fine besides the fact that it still won't start. Still the same whining sort of buzzing noise.. Is it possible to have the wrong starter relay that I just replaced.. The crappy replacement one I got has an extra (small) terminal..

"damaged ring gear"???

Are the symptoms of a damaged ring gear the same as what I have described above? If it turns out to be a damaged ring gear what is involved when replacing the gear is difficult and what is the function of the gear..

Thanks...

PKRWUD 09-20-2002 02:34 AM

The ring gear is the teeth on the outside of the flywheel that the starter engages. If they are damaged, the starter will just spin.

pull the starter, and look at the teeth on the flywheel, and see if they are damaged.

Take care,
~Chris

FdMust88 09-20-2002 02:24 PM

Thanks for the help... After checking and re-checking I finally found my problem.. It turned out to be a slightly loose ground connection that I kept missing...

Now I have a new problem, they won't take the rebuilt starter back that I bought for $147 + $75 core charge at a dealership.. I bolted the starter in and removed it minutes later.. I really need help on this one.. What should I do.. I guess I could keep the starter in stock but what about the core charge.. Where can I get a core for free or $10 so I can get my $75 back????

Anyone have other suggestions..

PKRWUD 09-21-2002 11:54 AM

You're stuck with the new starter, as most electrical parts have a no return policy. As far as the core, find a junkyard and get one for $10.

Take care,
~Chris


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