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Scrapla 10-02-2002 02:00 PM

Clutch
 
Can anyone recomend a good aftermakretclutch I have a 90gt and working on gettin all the major bolt ons listend below and right now i'm gettin my tranny rebuilt and it has a stock clutch so I figured it would be a good time to look into gettin a nice aftermarket clutch i'm lookin to be on a reasonable budget nothing crazy and my cars a daily driver.

lx5091 10-02-2002 04:58 PM

Alot of people goes crazy over Centerforce, another excellent choice and if I wanted to spend more than it cost for my King Cobra (which is awesome for my stock mustang) would be Clutchmaster, they are great. And moderately priced $140 for stock grade and $320 for better than a King Cobra up to $600. I don't have experience with these, but my local race shop MPE Racing in Taunton, MA swears by them. Gripping power per model ranges form stock to 400% over stock! www.clutchmasters.com

Scrapla 10-02-2002 08:05 PM

well I was looking with the centerforce 2 but I want some opnions cause i'm gonna be doin all the mojor bolt ons and maybe later down the road NOS or a Supercharge but for now I want a nice clutch to take to the strip once and a while but to drive everyday with to work just need some opinions and I dont wanna spend like $400

Coupe50h 10-02-2002 08:16 PM

I have the king cobra, i had all problems trying to install it myself, (gravel driveway, and rain) but i finally got an impact tool and knocked it out.......... it hooked well at the track last week, and i love the easier pedal, last clutch i had required alot of pedal effort (hd motsprt:mad: ) and im launching on e.t.m/t's at 4500+ stock motor.
i hear good things about SPEC clutches.
later....

Scrapla 10-03-2002 10:41 AM

So will the king cobra hold up to all my mods and maybe a fe more bolt ons later on?

saltzstang 10-03-2002 11:19 AM

King cobra has a little less pedal pressure,and more holding power. It has held up to my 175-juice.

Simi Stang 10-03-2002 12:10 PM

Clutch
 
Centerforce dual friction has my vote. It handles my mild 306 & 150 shot of nitrous on slicks just fine. Easy pedal pushing & depending on how often (& far) you drive your stang...it should give you years of great performance.

MDM 10-03-2002 12:14 PM

I agree with Simi. The Centerforce DF is a great unit which will give you years of good service and will hold nicely under boost or the juice. Doing the job right now will servce you well moving forward. Don't forget to do a rear main seal and steel bearing retainer while you are in there. Try Summit for the DF kit. Should go for around $300./

Jthompson 10-03-2002 01:41 PM

I currently am on my second hd motorsport clutch, which is the same as the king cobra, but with more pedal effort. If you don't have a strong left leg, by the time you get out of your car, your leg will be shaking it is so stiff. That clutch is good, but I am a little bored of it. It won't hook up as good and chirp second without good gears, I have the 2.73 gears.

I am going to front the extra $$$ next time for the centerforce.

BTW, don't bother with any of that unless you get an aluminum quadrant with adjustable clutch cable also. Would suggest the steeda firewall adjuster-can use stock cable with it and just an alum. quad.

chris91LX 10-03-2002 03:05 PM

Spec Stage I or II. I just put a stage II in my car and the pedal feel is about a thousand times better than the CF I had in there before, and it's cheaper and comes with everything you need (t/o bearing, alignment tool, clutch disc and pressure plate). The CF only comes with the disc and pp, they want you to spend another $20 for their t/o bearing.

ultraflo 10-03-2002 03:32 PM

An adj. clutch cable and quadrant... and a firewall adjuster, are all really good items that need to be installed, IMO, to get the most out of your new clutch... not absolutely necessary, but a darn good idea! :)

The Spec unit sounds good to me, I have heard alot of good things about them... never tried one though. I ran the D/F setup on my old combo that went 11.70's on slicks and it held-up great!

And the steel bearing retainer just makes life so much easier... good thing to address while the tranny is out ;)

Just reitterating what everyone has already said to stress the importance of taking care of all the weak-links found in the mustangs factory clutch setup.... if the money is there, I'd take care of all these things. :)

lx5091 10-03-2002 03:38 PM

Is it the centerforce dual friction clutch that I've seen in other posts, that has the weights that keep getting out of balance? Some people have had to tear out the tranny a couple of times, 'til they got a good unit that was balanced. Is this the model?

Superpromustang 10-03-2002 05:47 PM

Honestly, if you want a good clutch for the price, go to autozone and get a cumberland clutch, when I running a 5-speed I blew three HD T-5's with that clutch and sold it with my fourth T-5, and that same clutch is still going strong in a convertible GT, but of course it's your car, that's just my input

2fcnbd 10-03-2002 06:24 PM

clutch ?
 
Best thing to do is rescearch. You must make your own decision
go to local tracks near your area. Ask questions like power out put,gears, traction devices. clutch pedal effort . Don't kown much
about spec ? But can say go with proven performer/centerforce d-f
they been doing it since 60- or-70's must be doing something right .Be sure to use aftermarket clutch quad. steeda seems
to be best quality. make sure to resurface flywheel inspect pilot bearing for excess wear/replace if possible,use locktite also.
other good advise stay away from local parts store junk!
bearing retainer excellent choice. better yet tremec 3550's
are real cheap.rear seal good time to change with all dissassembled! good luck?

87gt17815 10-03-2002 07:37 PM

My vote goes to the SPEC stage I or II. A very good transmission builder by the name of Bob Hanlon who i talk to quite a bit once told me that a Centerforce is the killer of all stock T-5 trannys. Especially ones with a little power in front of them. If your T-5 is built it will be ok but those little weights shock the tranny when you power shift.

Scrapla 10-03-2002 09:39 PM

Well id like to thank everyone for the input and I broke it down to about two clutch's the centerforce 2 and SPec 2 , I'd love to go dual friction but cant really afford the tranny rebuild and the DF.

Scrapla 10-03-2002 10:26 PM

This is what I think i'm gonna invest in,

Steed quadrant and adjuster:$80
Rear Main seal and steel bearing retainer $60
Centerforce Dual Friction $289

Now I'm not sure if centerforce's kit includes the pressure plate and throw out bearing anyone familiar with there clutches?

2fcnbd 10-03-2002 10:40 PM

clutch
 
does not come with t/o/b 30.00extra

want more/imput on counter weights shocking trans when
they/only weighabout 4-5 grams problem not d/f t-5's are junk
so can't- knock centerforce d/f
would like more info on subject
:eek:

chris91LX 10-04-2002 08:09 AM

Re: clutch
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 2fcnbd
does not come with t/o/b 30.00extra

want more/imput on counter weights shocking trans when
they/only weighabout 4-5 grams problem not d/f t-5's are junk
so can't- knock centerforce d/f
would like more info on subject
:eek:

Maybe not, but the weights did wear an uneven pattern, off center of the splines of the pressure plate on my CF DF I pulled this spring. The Spec is a much better value than the Centerforce. BTW the Spec I is comparable to the Centerforce, the Spec II is a step up. The Spec I kit is like $179 with the t/o bearing, clutch disc, pressure plate and the alignment tool.

429mustang 10-04-2002 11:37 AM

Do any local shops carry SPEC clutches? How is the stage 1 compared to the ford hd/kng cobra as far as holding strength?
Also, anyone know how much fluid a T-5 holds, I'm puting a clutch in tomorrow and I want to change/fill the fluid.


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