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96_4.6 03-02-2003 11:43 PM

Is it even worth it for a bigger mass air meter on a stock engine with a CAI setup?
 
Hey I'm buying in to the CAI, i know i know i'm not expecting great gains or any at all but I'm buyin MAC's cause it fits the factory strut-tower brace so i was wondering on a stock engine is it worth the money for a bigger mass air meter, like i think i saw either 80 or 87 mm I believe for 96-98 stangs mine being a 96 gt, thanks

Hammer 03-02-2003 11:53 PM

A properly calibrated after market MAF will help a little bit, even stock. You might think of saving some cash and get the MAF without the CAI kit.

You also might want to take a look at the C&L MAF\CAI kits....
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TcobrA 03-03-2003 03:06 PM

Re: Is it even worth it for a bigger mass air meter on a stock engine with a CAI setup?
 
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Originally posted by 96_4.6
Hey I'm buying in to the CAI, i know i know i'm not expecting great gains or any at all but I'm buyin MAC's cause it fits the factory strut-tower brace so i was wondering on a stock engine is it worth the money for a bigger mass air meter, like i think i saw either 80 or 87 mm I believe for 96-98 stangs mine being a 96 gt, thanks
My son has the MAC on his '98 GT.... no dynos but by calibrated SOP -- feels like it makes SOME difference!

I have the UPR on my '03 Cobra -- dyno says it's up about 25 hp from where it was before the addition of the CAI --

Have fun

Hammer 03-03-2003 03:23 PM

Quote:

I have the UPR on my '03 Cobra -- dyno says it's up about 25 hp from where it was before the addition of the CAI --
The 03 Cobra is the first late model modular I've seen that sees good gains off of a CAI kit. This is probably because of the vehicle using forced induction (blower).

In most other cases, I've never seen a CAI do much for a stock setup...

TcobrA 03-03-2003 03:44 PM

Actually,
I have seen some documented changes in NA mods. These are not huge gains. My son says he notices a big difference in highway throttle responce...... Perhaps due to cooler -- out of engine compartment air -- The rubber trumpet had been removed when a K&N was added (before the CAI).... There is a definite improvement with hte CAI, again SOP--------

As for the Cobra -- DEFINITE CHANGES!!!:D

Hammer 03-03-2003 03:55 PM

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I have seen some documented changes in NA mods. These are not huge gains. My son says he notices a big difference in highway throttle responce......
Hence the well-used phrase "Mileage May Vary" I guess... ;)

Of course, I can only go by what I've seen on the dyno on just some applications....

Something else to consider, there have been cases of some MAFs not liking the bend into the wheel-well....

My personal opinion though... on near stock applications, don't expect much of a gain with a CAI kit.....
Please remember: "Mileage May Vary"

TcobrA 03-03-2003 04:04 PM

There seems to be something about MAF rotation. Densecharger was having trouble with their positioning and have (or ar about to) change it. Do a thread search at www.svtperformance.com -- see forums

peace

Hammer 03-03-2003 04:38 PM

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There seems to be something about MAF rotation. Densecharger was having trouble with their positioning and have (or ar about to) change it.
Rotating the MAF for induction bend issues is quite common on many applications.
Unfortunately, when using a stock "flanged" type MAF, rotation is somewhat limited and sometimes impossible... this depends on the flange size and application.

Most owners with blowers like to use "bullet" type MAFs for un-hindered rotation while tuning with their setup.... this is due to the sensor usually being placed at the "top" of the MAF unit, which in some applications may not be the best angle to get a good reading.

This is the same basic principle when encountering possible CAI\MAF problems...

The Pro-M "Univer" MAF is a good solution for blown applications as it "should" be able to get a good reading no matter how the MAF is positioned. (Of course with this also... Mileage May Vary...)

96_4.6 03-03-2003 04:47 PM

well which maf would be good then, i see them come ready for 19lb injectors cause i dont see myself changing the injectors anytime soon so cheap would be nice thanks for all the input

Hammer 03-03-2003 04:52 PM

Anything from Pro-M or C&L would work fine...

C&L

Pro-M

96_4.6 03-03-2003 10:18 PM

That sucks cause alot of them are the whole systems, I want that mac CAI for the looks and I just want a bigger mass air to put in the full system from TB to fender from mac but o well thanks everyone

stangt00 03-03-2003 10:49 PM

For what it's worth, the Mac CAI was my FIRST mod. I did notice an increase in the tone of the exhaust, and better throttle response. No dyno results though. If anything, it looks cool under the hood ;) at a minimum.

96_4.6 03-03-2003 10:49 PM

Speakin of MAF'S whats the size of ny stock maf, 96-98 stang gt's


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