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mikew88gt 03-03-2003 04:16 PM

Anybody ever use solid roller lifters in stock block?
 
I was considering options for my next engine and can't remember ever seeing solid rollers installed in a stock 5.0 block. What I want is more RPM potential than the stock hydraulics are capable of. From what I've researched the stock lifters are no good after 6100 rpm and the cam I'm looking at is rated to 6500 rpm. I guess my question should be what are my lifter options for 6500+? Does anyone make a hydraulic lifter light and strong enough for that kind of abuse? It looks to me like Crane and Comp Cams hydraulic rollers are OE replacements and they don't claim any advantage over stockers in their online catalogs. Does anyone have some experience they would like to share?

MiracleMax 03-04-2003 06:28 PM

Comp Cams makes a higher reving hydraulic roller lifter, its in thier magnum line. The lifters actually use a lash setting. Combining this lifter with a titanium retainer would give it a good boost.


if only AFR would produce the HYDRA-REV kit for SB Fords!! (then again I don't think there is enought space between the lifter and the head, but I could be wrong?)

If you are gonna stick with hydraulics, then get a cam kit with the whole nine, from cam to springs, including push rods, retainers, and keepers. If the kit is engineered right, harmonics will be addressed, which are just as detrimental as the weight. that also means, scrap the gear drive if you are toying with the idea or have one installed.

WADS56 03-04-2003 07:13 PM

I have a solid roller in my stock block. It works and performs great, but it is loud.

ultraflo 03-04-2003 09:41 PM

Sherman Racing Products ...check these guys out. ;)

You can spin your stock hyd roller lifters well past 7000rpm with titanium retainers, valves, and locks... just look at what the NMRA and FFW Renegade guys are doing (do more research, lol) with stock lifters coupled with the Ti and other lightweight components. LaRocca spins 'em to 8800rpm, for example.

I have spun my stockers to 7000rpm with Manley race-flow valves (steel) and Ti locks and retainers without missing a beat. I ran the modified SRP lifters all last year (so I wouldn't have to wonder if the internals of the lifters were going to spew all over the lifter valley), shifting @ 7k, and crossing the 1320' @ 7200rpm. I am putting together a Renegade legal combo, however, and will have to put the stockers back in...

Anderson Ford also sells Hi-rev hyd. roller cams that utilize stock lifters, FYI.

One thing that is nice about the hyd. roller lifters, is that you don't have to set them as frequently as you would a solid roller setup ;)

Jeff Chambers 03-05-2003 07:18 AM

I'm revving stock Ford lifters to 7500+ without incident. Many of the guys in Street Warrior and Pure Street are regularly going this high and higher. I've even seen 8000+ with the stock hydraulic roller lifter. Hell, my motor never sees less than 6100 the entire pass down track!

mikew88gt 03-05-2003 04:55 PM

This is awesome information guys.

I did talk to Comp Cams and the lifter they used to sell under p/n 877-16 is no longer available. No explanation.

No big deal if my stockers will handle it like a few of you mentioned. Thanks again for answering my questions.

DirtKing 03-06-2003 05:26 PM

mechanical roller cams
 
How do these cams fare on the street?? i've heard they don't live too long.


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