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crazypete 05-04-2004 12:21 PM

B&M holeshot or performance automotive torque converter?
 
Yes, neither of these is a real hardcore converter but then again, apart from my carb and it's intake and some nice, open exhaust, I have no reason to suspect I'm making that much more hp and torque than stock. I guesstimate 250..maybe 260 hp. I chose the 2400 as my stall speed.

I went looking around and nearly had an annurism when I saw the prices of half the converters on the market. I spotted the B&M holeshot 2400 and the performance automotive street dominator 2500 , both around $300 with shipping. Those seemed reasonable.

I went and read previous posts and heard bad things about the B&M, but I dont think I'm making enough power to break anything right now..... I hope =) . All my chips are in gears and weight reduction, more or less. My future additions are maybe some aluminum trick flow twisted wedge heads and maybe some roller rockers (next year). Should I be ok with one of these "lesser converters" and did I choose the correct stall speed for my stang?

crazypete 05-05-2004 08:02 AM

Wow! I guess my choice of converters left the general community completely uninspired! =P

tireburner163 05-05-2004 11:23 AM

Try checking out GER. They make a much better convert, and it's only about 75 bucks more.

I'd get a 2800 stall and a tranny cooler.



-Josh, aka the tireburner

crazypete 05-05-2004 11:58 AM

A 2800 stall? You think that would be better for my application? I'm 300 lbs lighter than stock (even with the aod) but making roughly stock hp. Would 2800 stall get me into my powerband better? I read somewhere that the converter should be about 500 rpms below your peak torque.... Stock makes torque at 3000 or 3200 for the carbed stangs? Hmmmm. I guess it wouldnt matter since it would have to be a lockup unit and it would be "stalled" in OD anyways so the stall speed would not affect my cruising rpms or efficiency.... I think...right. I'm now torn between 2400 and 2800 stall.

I already installed a cooler as part of my AOD install! I thought ahead! It's decent. It's nylon ziptied into the front of the radiator and it goes 3/4 of the way up and halfway across the front. (Doesnt attaching cooling devices to the radiator actually create a transmission heater?....)

I checked out the GER page and they seem to stock 3000 stall converters and 2000 stall converters but the 3000's are like almost $500. I got $400 buring a hole in my pocket, but it's only $400! =P

blue oval 50h 05-05-2004 10:32 PM

STAY AWAY FROM GER


Give Transmission Specialties a try. Good stuff for the price. Ide say your in the 28-3200rpm area. Dont forget, your converter will flash roughly 1k Rpm's lower than stall speed.

crazypete 05-06-2004 10:07 AM

Hmm, the transmission specialties stuff doesnt look bad...doesnt look bad at all. I'm gonna get in touch with them and see what they say..

420nitro 05-06-2004 11:42 AM

HOLD ON!!!!!!!
Take it from me!!!!! You get what you pay for. I understand that you right now might not be making all that much now but, what about later????
I don't know if you know this or not but, when the converter breaks....it will send what ever it broke threw the transmission!!!!:eek: :eek: When the transmission goes it will keep it inside the trans. Something to consider. I got over $1,800 in repairs for my transmission after repeted failures. The converter only cost me $700. So be cautious when you shop!

crazypete 05-06-2004 12:14 PM

There must be some way for me to pick up a 3000 stall lockup converter that can handle maybe 400 hp for under 400 bucks!

I built my own AOD from an old @ss 86 mercury marquis AOD core for $150 and a smashed up 87 gt's aod that I got for free (it donated the 'B' servo and the front pump). Add a transstar rebuild kit and some kevlar bands and a transgo kit: I would loose maybe....500 bucks to repeat all that over again.

Do converters explode all the time? You guys are making me paranoid! =) . It sounds like these things break left and right.

420nitro 05-06-2004 12:54 PM

You can pick up a good converter for that price used. someone is always upgrading to something better. Just look for the stuff used. When you buy like a used P.I converter or a ATI, TCT,Cone, all of those can be redone to fit your car for a minimal cost.

crazypete 05-06-2004 01:06 PM

Where would you look to find the really good juicy classifieds?

This board is clean at the moment. All my friends are car-knowledge free computer dudes prone to saying such things like:

"a car is transportation...it gets me from point a to point b...your car must use a lot of gas....it's very loud"

^- smack!


What website hosts the best classifieds? I live in boston and swap meet type events are unusually rare around here.

420nitro 05-06-2004 01:13 PM

www.Hardcore50.com and check Ebay, check the big name race dealers like bennet racing, panhandle performance, larocca

blue oval 50h 05-06-2004 06:45 PM

Quote:

What website hosts the best classifieds
you can try corral.net

transmission specialties is one of the better companies

crazypete 05-07-2004 08:22 AM

It certainly does! Goodness.

Though nothing there was particularly what I needed, either too high stall or too low. Finally, after 2 days or research and calling up a lot of companies on the phone and looking at prices and what people said about certain products...


...drumroll.....

I went with the TCI street fighter. The guy at TCI sat on the phone with me while he calculated the math and said I should be about 2800 stall right now and about 3200 after my twisted wedge heads. I felt better about this purchase because I had heard of the company and summit stocked their stuff.

Summit's rolling around on the ground oinking in joy at all the money I just spent there in the past month! =P I also grabbed a trans temp guage to monitor my aod so she doesnt cook.

crazypete 05-07-2004 01:42 PM

What _should_ a good operating temp for a transmission be and should I have any tv pressure at cruise? Since the pedal is gonna need to be in a bit further for the 4.56's, there will always be tv pressure. I'm more curious about the operating temp for a trans, though.

Everyone have a fabulous weekend!

Crazy Pete.... ;)


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