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titanium92 08-23-2004 11:57 AM

Timing 14* or 16*
 
Hi I am still a newbie but my question is what will adjusting my timing due for my almost stock mustang? What will I see if I do it?

GhOsT6_9 08-23-2004 12:10 PM

Gives you a boost in performance, just make sure you run premium fuel.

I'd say go with 14*, 16* might be too much.

Red5Ltr 08-23-2004 02:48 PM

I have a 93' and I have the timing set at 15* running super unleaded and no issues.

88fivepointoh 08-23-2004 02:54 PM

14 to 15 degrees is great and again Super unleaded... Todays quality fuel sucks so super is the only way to go, 93 preferably 94...

titanium92 08-23-2004 03:21 PM

Thanks for the feedback, now in which direction cw or ccw do I turn? or is there only one way? Is it hard to do? How much is involved to adjust it?

Thanks again.

GhettoPop 08-23-2004 03:53 PM

i bumped mine to 14* and use 87 octane. no pinging or problems.

Scrapla 08-23-2004 05:05 PM

Mine is also at 14* and I run 89octane and have no problems on an almost stock motor.

88fivepointoh 08-23-2004 06:34 PM

To advance is counter clockwise, and make sure you use a good timing light.. Its not hard to do, just make sure you set it correctly.

Falcons Talon 08-24-2004 09:22 AM

16* 92 octane no problems.

Make sure you remove the spout connecter.

GhettoPop 08-24-2004 10:27 AM

so why do some insist on 93 octane when u bump up the timing? i always figured that, on average a stock stang will run good @ 13*-14* w/ 87 octane. bumping it up to just say 15* may require 93 octane to avoid pinging. i always thought u should set timing as high as u can, once u hear pinging, drop down a degree or two. run 87, if it runs fine, stick w/ it. i also understand that every car is different right out of the factory. what do u all think? agree/disagree?

jimdrechsler 08-24-2004 11:39 AM

im at about 16, but hard to tell exactly. i also a 75 shot of nitrous. i wonder if i should retard mine a bit.

Hethj7 08-24-2004 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GhettoPop
so why do some insist on 93 octane when u bump up the timing? i always figured that, on average a stock stang will run good @ 13*-14* w/ 87 octane. bumping it up to just say 15* may require 93 octane to avoid pinging. i always thought u should set timing as high as u can, once u hear pinging, drop down a degree or two. run 87, if it runs fine, stick w/ it. i also understand that every car is different right out of the factory. what do u all think? agree/disagree?
I agree totally here. Why bump timing up a few degrees and have to run 93 octane on a basically stock Stang. Performance gains will be minimal and your wallet will hurt a lot more when you fill up. Set the timing as high as you can without pinging using 87 octane. That would be my advice.

88fivepointoh 08-24-2004 03:11 PM

On any High Performance motor, 93 octane is best, you won't always here the detonation, but it doesn't mean its not happening.. If you move up time from stock, 93 is best.

GhettoPop 08-24-2004 03:24 PM

with 93 octane costing approx 20 cents more than 87, do the math.

12,000 miles/yr @ 13mph = 923 gallons x 20 cents = $185/yr extra

I'll use 87, save the money, and rebuild/replace the engine when it dies using the money I saved, its cost effective and I see NO performance gain using 93 on a stock motor. that is why FORD did not recommend or require 89 or 93.

Keep in mind this is on a stock daily driver. If your a track guy, or highly modified, thats a different story.

88fivepointoh 08-24-2004 03:25 PM

well if you do the math, 185 dollars a year savings Vs. 1500 dollars plus on a motor rebiuld speaks for itself.. its what maybe 2 bucks more a the pump for a fill up? You get better performance plus no worries...

Falcons Talon 08-24-2004 04:09 PM

$185 a year extra? Is that it? Hell, I just won't super size the meals at dinner once a week and I should break even.

jimdrechsler 08-24-2004 05:06 PM

thats about 2 rounds of golf with beers here! no biggie!

tmoss 08-24-2004 09:30 PM

I am running 16* on 89 octane with no detonation. ;)

Hethj7 08-26-2004 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 88fivepointoh
On any High Performance motor, 93 octane is best, you won't always here the detonation, but it doesn't mean its not happening.. If you move up time from stock, 93 is best.
I completely disagree here. There is absolutely no benefit from running a higher octane fuel than you need. You are just throwing money away.

If you want a good explanation of why, Chris does a great job of explaining it here

Stang_ROTY 08-26-2004 11:13 AM

Where's Chris been? Haven't heard from him in a while...

Quote:

Originally posted by Hethj7
I completely disagree here. There is absolutely no benefit from running a higher octane fuel than you need. You are just throwing money away.

If you want a good explanation of why, Chris does a great job of explaining it here



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